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On February 28 2011 20:43 okum wrote:And to think that KHAN was considered the second weakest team at the start of this season's SPL. Stork + (not so scrubby) scrubs fighting  I absolutely love the rookies. Turn, Brave, Reality and Grape bring much needed freshness to the SPL and the BW pro scene.
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On February 28 2011 20:46 Seraphic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 20:44 PineappleLumpsToss wrote: I called it. Sad but true. Bisu has no answer to Stork when it matters.
Grats to Khan. SKT needs to go away and sort their shit out, cause tonight's performance was just embarassing. Ya they need to really do something about this. Bisu is basically winning everything for them. if Bisu loses then they basically lost. They keep this up, SKT will NOT be in first place for very long. KT is like what, 2 games behind now?
2 games behind with 2 fewer games played. If KT wins their next two games, they tie up SKT. Given how they've been performing during WL, it's quite likely to happen.
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On February 28 2011 20:47 nayumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 20:41 Lachrymose wrote:On February 28 2011 20:41 Holgerius wrote:Stork, you're amazing.  Stork>>>Bisu! eco cheese is pretty sick, eh? it's not his fault ... his team is currently up 3-1 ... they could just keep throwing cheese at T1 till the ace match while Bisu pretty much HAD to play safe in all of his games ... this. 3x4 gates or 3xFE. No way Bisu can win all.
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God damn SKT, give Bisu some support. Losing to Reality is just unforgivable. But I suppose Bisu losing to Stork isn't too big of a deal, he played pretty well, even if he couldn't overcome a massive BO disadvantage.
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On February 28 2011 20:45 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 20:41 Lachrymose wrote:On February 28 2011 20:41 Holgerius wrote:Stork, you're amazing.  Stork>>>Bisu! eco cheese is pretty sick, eh? Ya, that game was totally a build order loss. Bisu would've won in a straight up game.
I didn't say Bisu would have won in a straight up game. I implied Bisu didn't lose a straight up game.
I'm sure you'd be very impressed if Bisu rode a 14 nex home against Flash doing something other than 1 rax CC and people started spamming BISU>FLASH TROLOL.
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On February 28 2011 20:47 Seraphic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 20:46 Belha wrote: SKT coach strat was bad. If nowadays Bisu pvp is awful (specially aganist Stork) why put him last?! Bisu's PvP isn't awful. It's only awful against Stork because he can't beat him for some reason. I'm almost certain by now, Stork has given Bisu more then 50% of his PvP loses. Well counting this game,Bisu is on 5 games losing streak and is overall 9-14 vs Stork
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Yeeeah
2gate obs PvP: advantageous\even against 1 or 2gate DTs, 3gate goon/obs, aaaaand....and that's it. Lose to 1gate nex -> 4gate, to 1gate nex -> robo, behind 1gate shuttle -> obs or reaver, can get ugly vs 3gate goon -> nex. Only reason to ever do it is overconfidence: it does not get instantly killed by anything, so skill advantage can kick in later. Except he was playing Stork, to whom soft counter BO advantage is totally enough.
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hahaha so many butt hurt bisu fan boys saying that bisu couldn't have won because he was at a huge BO disadvantage and that he'd beat stork any day straight up LOL i love it.
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Regular Proleague just can't come quick enough can't it?
SKT's Zerg line has completely vanished now.
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stork: bisu 14 (including now): 9
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On February 28 2011 20:51 a7choi wrote: hahaha so many butt hurt bisu fan boys saying that bisu couldn't have won because he was at a huge BO disadvantage and that he'd beat stork any day straight up LOL i love it. No, that's you saying that. I heard Bisu fans were the worst, but I never really saw that.
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They went up to 4 bases... he just was't good enough to win engagements in the central area of the map or to harass enough to come back after giving a small BO advantage.
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On February 28 2011 20:53 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 20:51 a7choi wrote: hahaha so many butt hurt bisu fan boys saying that bisu couldn't have won because he was at a huge BO disadvantage and that he'd beat stork any day straight up LOL i love it. No, that's you saying that. I heard Bisu fans were the worst, but I never really saw that. scroll up and read.. read the last few pages. you'll see it.
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On February 28 2011 20:49 Soulforged wrote: Yeeeah
2gate obs PvP: advantageous\even against 1 or 2gate DTs, 3gate goon/obs, aaaaand....and that's it. Lose to 1gate nex -> 4gate, to 1gate nex -> robo, behind 1gate shuttle -> obs or reaver, can get ugly vs 3gate goon -> nex. Only reason to ever do it is overconfidence: it does not get instantly killed by anything, so skill advantage can kick in later. Except he was playing Stork, to whom soft counter BO advantage is totally enough.
What?
2 gate obs stops dt cold, comes out ahead vs 3 gate, can hold up against reaver first and can potentially live 4 gate. it loses to gate to nexus of any description.
it isn't overconfidence, it's called playing safe.
gate nexus loses to dt, 4 gate and has a rough time vs reaver first. it just trounces observer first.
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I say there putting too much pressure on Bisu to win for them now. This keeps up, what will happen in the regular Proleague when it counts on everyone?
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They're saying he lost because of big build order disadvantage. Not that he would surely win on a straight up game. That is yet unknown.
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On February 28 2011 20:54 a7choi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 20:53 Lightwip wrote:On February 28 2011 20:51 a7choi wrote: hahaha so many butt hurt bisu fan boys saying that bisu couldn't have won because he was at a huge BO disadvantage and that he'd beat stork any day straight up LOL i love it. No, that's you saying that. I heard Bisu fans were the worst, but I never really saw that. scroll up and read.. read the last few pages. you'll see it. I did that. Not really what I saw, mostly KT fans saying that Bisu fans think so.
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On February 28 2011 20:49 Lachrymose wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 20:45 Holgerius wrote:On February 28 2011 20:41 Lachrymose wrote:On February 28 2011 20:41 Holgerius wrote:Stork, you're amazing.  Stork>>>Bisu! eco cheese is pretty sick, eh? Ya, that game was totally a build order loss. Bisu would've won in a straight up game. I didn't say Bisu would have won in a straight up game. I implied Bisu didn't lose a straight up game. I'm sure you'd be very impressed if Bisu rode a 14 nex home against Flash doing something other than 1 rax CC and people started spamming BISU>FLASH TROLOL. Well, Bisu>Flash has no merit to it. One is bonjwa, one hasn't accomplished anything in Starleagues since way back in 09.
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On February 28 2011 20:54 a7choi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 20:53 Lightwip wrote:On February 28 2011 20:51 a7choi wrote: hahaha so many butt hurt bisu fan boys saying that bisu couldn't have won because he was at a huge BO disadvantage and that he'd beat stork any day straight up LOL i love it. No, that's you saying that. I heard Bisu fans were the worst, but I never really saw that. scroll up and read.. read the last few pages. you'll see it. No one is rubbing it in.
It's the facts, and that's all that's being stated. You're exaggerating the situation.
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