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Brycks7
Profile Joined December 2009
Peru183 Posts
January 30 2011 09:03 GMT
#4001
StorkHwaiting hwaiting! LOL
Gay 4 Stork
Sworn
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada920 Posts
January 30 2011 10:26 GMT
#4002
If you haven't watched this series please do it's a great owning of dinotoss by a well prepared terrorist. It was like watching a tactical strike every second. Esp. game 3
"Duty is heavy as a mountain, death is light as a feather." CJ Entus Fighting! <3 Effort
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4105 Posts
January 30 2011 11:15 GMT
#4003
Could anyone please explain to me why would Stork build his 3rd right close to terran? (i mean on the path of terran to toss) making it easier for terran to run over all the bases with one push? I hope there's another explanation better that mine "cause Stork is that dumb"
Drone is a way of living
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2346 Posts
January 30 2011 11:28 GMT
#4004
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Fantasy_(Player)

It is time to update it, dont you think?
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10498 Posts
January 30 2011 14:24 GMT
#4005
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! FANTASY I WILL KILL YOU!!!
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
January 30 2011 14:41 GMT
#4006
My heart is broken. Stork's coaches could be partly to blame. Where is the insight? Fantasy was on top of shit. The rax cc was insta-win. I think stork should have done what he's done before like on Neo Medusa and just 2/3 gate with reaver and bust the front. Damn it!!!! Why!? The 3rd game was just bad. He saw the ever so late cc and still didn't want to act. Since he had placed his units at the front he probably expected some sort of 2 fac. He was shaken by this time anyway, but seriously,
he needs better support because he's such an insane multi-tasking beast. Better than fanta. GO stork!!
www.brainyweb.ca //web stuff!
JustQuitWarcraftIII
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States679 Posts
January 30 2011 15:33 GMT
#4007
I think Stork's name should be changed to Stock due to how inconsistent he is, just like the prices of stocks.
AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
January 30 2011 17:53 GMT
#4008
On January 31 2011 00:33 JustQuitWarcraftIII wrote:
I think Stork's name should be changed to Stock due to how inconsistent he is, just like the prices of stocks.


Calm -> Clam
Stork -> Stock

Meh... not as good but I like it!
always tired -_-
Pafnucy
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland1124 Posts
January 30 2011 19:53 GMT
#4009
On January 31 2011 02:53 AppleTart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 00:33 JustQuitWarcraftIII wrote:
I think Stork's name should be changed to Stock due to how inconsistent he is, just like the prices of stocks.


Calm -> Clam
Stork -> Stock

Meh... not as good but I like it!


No idea who made it up, but Stork is already "Bork". If you see some older NukeTheStars vids, there are "Fun and learning with Bork!" chapters. It sounds better too, hehe
Member of the "Fuck Yeah, Canata !" committee :-) to join copy/paste this
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
January 30 2011 19:55 GMT
#4010
Fantasy might be the most undeserving OSL Champion ever. Maybe second to JulyZergs EVER 2008 win.
While game 3 was truly impressive and well executed, game 2 was a blind counter to rvr play into a simple 5 fac(?) timing push and game 1 was Stork wasting his army when he was 18 supply short due to building carriers.
Disappointing, I guess oov deserves most of the credit for telling Fantasy what to do t.t
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-30 20:13:00
January 30 2011 20:11 GMT
#4011
On January 30 2011 20:28 hitthat wrote:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Fantasy_(Player)

It is time to update it, dont you think?

...Why does it say Batoo -___-

Okay edited ~_~
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
January 30 2011 20:14 GMT
#4012
On January 31 2011 04:55 Djin)ftw( wrote:
Fantasy might be the most undeserving OSL Champion ever. Maybe second to JulyZergs EVER 2008 win.
While game 3 was truly impressive and well executed, game 2 was a blind counter to rvr play into a simple 5 fac(?) timing push and game 1 was Stork wasting his army when he was 18 supply short due to building carriers.
Disappointing, I guess oov deserves most of the credit for telling Fantasy what to do t.t

I hope you're not serious. Casy and July are the only 2 champions that you could even argue didn't deserve their finals win. Not only did Fantasy make it there against a wide range of foes, but he found out how to defeat a more talented opponent. You can say BO win, but he gave himself the BO advantage in the first 2 games by reading Stork like a book.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
January 30 2011 20:14 GMT
#4013
On January 31 2011 04:55 Djin)ftw( wrote:
Fantasy might be the most undeserving OSL Champion ever. Maybe second to JulyZergs EVER 2008 win.
While game 3 was truly impressive and well executed, game 2 was a blind counter to rvr play into a simple 5 fac(?) timing push and game 1 was Stork wasting his army when he was 18 supply short due to building carriers.
Disappointing, I guess oov deserves most of the credit for telling Fantasy what to do t.t



And bisu didn't deserve to beat savior, he just had a BO win. I think we should all just say savior has 4 msl titles because he totally would have won if Bisu used a different build.

In fact, Flash doesn't really deserve any of his wins either. All he did was use a good BO's and have better mechanics than Jaedong, but THAT'S IT!

Hopefully kespa develops a better way to determine who the best starcraft play is in the future, because playing the game obviously isn't working.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
January 30 2011 20:30 GMT
#4014
congrats to fantasy for finally picking up an individual title...so (Z)YellOw and (P)JangBi are the only true members of the Kong Line who remain within....
VTArlock
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1763 Posts
January 30 2011 20:45 GMT
#4015
So I was at the Berkeley, CA GSL/OSL finals party + tournament, we all had a great time and I just had to share with you all that my prediction for the outcome came true...see.
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Why?
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
January 30 2011 21:32 GMT
#4016
Must suck, even when your favorite to win Didnt expect Fantasy to dominate him so hard.

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Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
January 30 2011 21:47 GMT
#4017
On January 31 2011 05:14 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 04:55 Djin)ftw( wrote:
Fantasy might be the most undeserving OSL Champion ever. Maybe second to JulyZergs EVER 2008 win.
While game 3 was truly impressive and well executed, game 2 was a blind counter to rvr play into a simple 5 fac(?) timing push and game 1 was Stork wasting his army when he was 18 supply short due to building carriers.
Disappointing, I guess oov deserves most of the credit for telling Fantasy what to do t.t

I hope you're not serious. Casy and July are the only 2 champions that you could even argue didn't deserve their finals win. Not only did Fantasy make it there against a wide range of foes, but he found out how to defeat a more talented opponent.


Ok Casy at least had to face Yellow in the semis (who just beat Goodfriend at that point and who was way over .50 vt).
And Julys run.. yeah well. As I said, that was pretty rough too.
Look at Fantasys run; his wins against Hyun were actually pretty dominating, yet Hyun is Hyun with .37 vt.
Group stage modesty (loss), hydra (ok, he is pretty good atm) and free (maybe #4 toos behind Bisu Stork Kal).
Then Hyuk (no comment).
Then Calm (uuuuh, no I don't want to remember that)

You can say BO win, but he gave himself the BO advantage in the first 2 games by reading Stork like a book.

Yeah well, if you wanna call that skill. The luck factor in Brood War is most important in the early game due to the build order choice (hello zvz). Saying "I go fac port wraith"., hoping that your opponent goes rvr again is.. yeah well. Call it "Reading his opponent", "mastering of the meta game", "winning the mind games", it still is not impressive. It's just that, a Build order win.
Plus, Stork didn't play that good (losing his shuttle in g1 despite having seen 3 goliaths with his obs -.-

On January 31 2011 05:14 hacklebeast wrote:

And bisu didn't deserve to beat savior, he just had a BO win. I think we should all just say savior has 4 msl titles because he totally would have won if Bisu used a different build.

In fact, Flash doesn't really deserve any of his wins either. All he did was use a good BO's and have better mechanics than Jaedong, but THAT'S IT!

Hopefully kespa develops a better way to determine who the best starcraft play is in the future, because playing the game obviously isn't working.

Hm. Funny that you would mention the mechanical part of the game with Fantasy being at 3-4k/140 supply for like a minute against free but not the quality of his opponents.
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
January 30 2011 22:07 GMT
#4018
Fantasy dominated the #1 PR player who everyone predicted to win HE HAD NO COMPETITION Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
the last wcs commissioner
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
January 30 2011 22:17 GMT
#4019
Hm. Funny that you would mention the mechanical part of the game with Fantasy being at 3-4k/140 supply for like a minute against free but not the quality of his opponents.

Exactly, that's what I'm saying. If you have a bad game, or even a bad minute where you have 3k minerals, Kespa should just stop the game and boot you right there. Clearly he was an inferior player, and Kespa should have just not have let him play in the rest of this tournament, or tournaments to come (i think a 5 OSL ban sounds fair right?).

And the fact that he played horrible opponents is yet another way kespa droped the ball. After any osl, the "winner" should have to play the kespa top 5, and if he loses to any of them, he doesn't get the title. Just give it to flash by default (he has the best win percentage, which is what you are basing a player's ability on). Better yet, lets just skip the qualifiers, Ro36, Ro16, and Ro8 straight to the semi-finals. That way, we make sure that the winner has to play only good people on his way to the championship, and it will make sure that a travesty like casy or fantasy will never happen again.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
January 30 2011 22:27 GMT
#4020
oh no the stork fans have become retarded too

i thought they would be the last ones to succumb

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