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Cheeseburgered
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States716 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 14:09:43
January 27 2011 14:08 GMT
#1821
wtf? is it seriously zvz ro4?

well I guess there's no point in watching the MSL anymore, i don't stay up until 5 AM to watch 12 minute games that only involve flying mutalisks around for the entire match with the occasional build order loss
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nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
January 27 2011 14:11 GMT
#1822
On January 27 2011 23:01 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 22:57 nepeta wrote:
Left at JD vs Movie 2-2, came back to a confused OP in the live report thread, now read that both zerg made it through ^^ GG LEE JAE DONG GG KIM MYUNG WOON ^^ Going to enjoy watching the games I've missed. Hahaha protoss revival TT ^^


It was Snow, not Movie. I had nearly the same reaction, though.


Whichever :p protoss scum -^
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 27 2011 14:13 GMT
#1823
Kal could still make it, but it does indeed look like ZvZ+ZvZ incoming. At least it's quite interesting Zergs, JD vs Hydra could be decent because they both seems pretty darn high level, and Great vs Zero has relatively high chances of going to Hive tech. :D
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Mereel
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany895 Posts
January 27 2011 14:13 GMT
#1824
a song for the cutest player on earth (i hope its the right one because its blocked in germany):

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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6184 Posts
January 27 2011 14:19 GMT
#1825
On January 26 2011 18:20 Sworn wrote:
Stork and Jaedong will both advance. Stork looks to good and Jaedong is a god damned tyrant. Both will rape 3-0 for JD and 3-1 for Stork. Stork simply gave Zero the first game so he wouldn't kill himself after the humiliation of how hard stork will bend him over.


haha :D

Zero 3-0 pwnage! Stork the hippocrit even skipped WL matches to practise while Zero was owning Flash. And once blamed Flash for practising for individual leagues while there were proleague match for his team. I think he deserved to get owned. And Zero is pretty damn good so theres no shame.
LightAngels
Profile Joined April 2010
United States299 Posts
January 27 2011 14:19 GMT
#1826
In my dream i saw Stork lost so I rush to the computer immediately after I wake up and ...............

Stork (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 14:26:47
January 27 2011 14:21 GMT
#1827
On January 27 2011 20:27 Crunchums wrote:
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On January 27 2011 20:19 disciple wrote:
On January 27 2011 20:13 Crunchums wrote:
On January 27 2011 20:12 disciple wrote:
that map.. ugh disgusting

what is wrong with it

the mineral only are puzzling me so much. why are they there? its just a free base for the zerg to swarm cracklings in the late game. thats why jd could attack 12 and defend at the same time. I think that expo on 5 oclock made the difference cause its so easy to defend and allowed him to support mass cracklings

what

you mean that base that snow basically mined out while jd mined from it for like a minute before it got killed? i know that the reason jd was able to take out snow's expos was because snow was attacking jd's fifth and sixth, but you can't tell me that map imbalance was what lost snow that game - he could have defended his expos a whole lot better


how? I question his choice to take 9 oclock but its really difficult to patrol units between 9 and 12, the map is so big.You cant just be passive cause as we saw JD just took 6 uncontested. Jd's mineral only allowed him to assault that 12 with lings only, this was the major difference between that game and the one on benzene (aside from the storm drops as well), JD was on 4 gas for most of the time in both cases but that extra minerals from 5 really paid off in the last game.

I think the map has the same problem as all big maps like andro or FS, toss takes relatively easy 3rd gas but securing a base after that w/o having like a huge lead is very difficult
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Askalaphos
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany772 Posts
January 27 2011 14:22 GMT
#1828
[image loading]
FavZerg: EffOrt, Jaedong; FavProtoss: Movie, Kal; FavTerran: BaBy, Leta
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 14:24:40
January 27 2011 14:23 GMT
#1829
On January 27 2011 23:22 Askalaphos wrote:
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 27 2011 14:25 GMT
#1830
I don't know which one of those is the funniest. XD
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purpose
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden1017 Posts
January 27 2011 14:26 GMT
#1831
When it comes to storks poor performance you have to look at two things. First Zeros outstanding play. No question about it, Zero prepared really really well for this and executed it perfect.

But you cannot deny the fact that storks OSL semi and final played a part. And now to all people who are going to scream Flash and Nada did it. Yes they did, but that does not change the fact that it does play a part.

First off, Stork is not Flash or Nada. Stork is not on that super high level that Flash and JD etc has been on.

Second you cant just say that he did it so it applies to this situation. There are so many aspects to a situation like this. Flash had terran maps, stork had to fight on zerg maps. How did the MSL and OSL games play alonside each other. To have a ro8 at the same time as a ro4 and final is different then playing maybe ro8 at the same time.

you also has to take into consideration that when for example Flash won dual gold, he and JD were raping BW and it was kinda obvious that they would play in both finals.

Also its different to be in this situation when you are Nada and Flash, who at that moment are the best, have won starleuage last season, then for Stork who won his only OSL along time ago and have not really been near the absolut top for a while. When stork prepare and go up in a ro8, his mental focus is more likelly to be on his chance to yet again win OSL then what it would be for Flash who or Nada. What I mean is that Flash was in a situation were he had a easier time to put focus on the stuff he needed then Stork who had seen his glory days go away and now suddenly have gotten a second chance to be on top.

Also Boxer, Oov, Saviour, JD, Bisu and so on never won dual gold. So does that mean they are all crap?

The point being. Sure you cant say Stork lost due to the OSL, but you cant say it does not matter.

In this serie he played a really good zero who managed to put up is A game when he needed to. STork on the other hand had to much that drew his focus he could not put in the same amount of practice, he had to battle on zerg maps and most important, he was not on top during the games.

Its not an easy thing to go far in both MSL and OSL, even if it of course can be done!
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
January 27 2011 14:26 GMT
#1832
On January 27 2011 21:39 Elroi wrote:
lol game 5 Jaedong vs Snow: 99% recommend (108-1)


lol, Snow voted
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
January 27 2011 14:28 GMT
#1833
On January 27 2011 23:01 kuroshiroi wrote:
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On January 27 2011 22:54 Emon_ wrote:
On January 27 2011 22:47 Yodo wrote:
In his interview Flash states that he cannot play at 100 % currently and wins only via BO and smart management. Actually, I even doubt he will participate in next OSL/MSL. Usually with carpal syndrome you stop hand activity for half of the year or more. He can even retire. Ofc he can play games but high level bo5 no good for his health.

I was surprised that he talked about it openly in the interview. Probably preparing the fans for his retirement.

Hardly. I find it more likely he's simply pre-explaining his decline from a 90% winratio to a more maintainable 70-80% winratio. He will undoubtedly continue to be excellent for many years to come, but his god-mode phase is most likely over.

Then again, a full recovery from CTS is not exactly unheard of, so this may just be a bump in the road.

It will be just a bump. Flash won't be retiring for some time, and he will definitely remain a top contender (if not THE top contender) for a very long while.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
January 27 2011 14:31 GMT
#1834
Flash has carpal tunnel?
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
January 27 2011 14:45 GMT
#1835
sad for stork, but happy now that jaedong have no contender for his golden badge

gogogo LJD!
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letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
January 27 2011 14:47 GMT
#1836
wooooot?
Quarz
Profile Joined November 2010
448 Posts
January 27 2011 14:50 GMT
#1837
On January 27 2011 23:45 Jackal03 wrote:
sad for stork, but happy now that jaedong have no contender for his golden badge

gogogo LJD!


Well, everyone says he would beat Snow 3-0. We have to wait, JD likes to suprise his fans.
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2349 Posts
January 27 2011 14:52 GMT
#1838
Fuck yeah, Zero
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Pvvned
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States409 Posts
January 27 2011 14:54 GMT
#1839
if it does come down to ZvZ til the finals, I hope we see some mind-blowing lategame series
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TheHunksta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States122 Posts
January 27 2011 15:06 GMT
#1840
On January 27 2011 23:08 Cheeseburgered wrote:
wtf? is it seriously zvz ro4?

well I guess there's no point in watching the MSL anymore, i don't stay up until 5 AM to watch 12 minute games that only involve flying mutalisks around for the entire match with the occasional build order loss


Technically its JvZ
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