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hauton
Profile Joined March 2009
Hong Kong743 Posts
January 24 2011 10:47 GMT
#301
On January 24 2011 19:42 kuroshiroi wrote:
Stork forgot to micro his shuttle/reaver or something, he was close to holding it, I think?

On January 24 2011 19:42 dukethegold wrote:
Why Stork why

He mismicroed his shuttle.

Well, that kind of micro battle is basically a rock-paper-scissors game of predicting the opponent's targeting - Reaver or Shuttle.

Stork got it wrong and picked up the Reaver when he should have left it alone. Then when he went to drop it, that was the delay needed for Horang to snipe the Shuttle.

He probably should have backed both off after the first Scarab launched, as it was obvious his Reaver didn't have any more ready. Keeping his Shuttle + Reaver in the combat area was taking away from his Goon micro, which he really should've been focusing on.
keep it up, youll either be famous or homeless one day
smekz
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal503 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-24 10:47:29
January 24 2011 10:47 GMT
#302
sending 2 toss's (none being stork) against hydra was the error here, go practice to msl and osl stork, u're still awesome :>
LichtgestaltSC
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany166 Posts
January 24 2011 10:47 GMT
#303
Finally, a win again... I was a little worried about CJ in the winners league and still am, but there is a chance that they will do well again.
Winners league just isn´t to good for well balanced teams without a real "star-player" and as long as Leta can´t recover, there isn´t a real solid player except for Hydra...
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
January 24 2011 10:47 GMT
#304
On January 24 2011 19:46 Lucumo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 19:44 structuralinertia wrote:
On January 24 2011 19:42 hauton wrote:
In comes the fanboys to bawww about horang2 all-in-ing

zero such complaints thus far, only one bawwing is you


Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 19:41 nozaro33 wrote:
= = Horang2 that was just lame
Guess you're called cheesy toss for a reason

It's funny because Stork himself did the exactly same build several days ago.

Yep. Stork beat Tyson by going 4 gate.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
January 24 2011 10:48 GMT
#305
Why couldn't Stork scout it? Did H2 kill off the scouting probe and then build 2 more gates?
Fly Jaedong, fly!
structuralinertia
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia1426 Posts
January 24 2011 10:48 GMT
#306
On January 24 2011 19:47 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 19:46 Lucumo wrote:
On January 24 2011 19:44 structuralinertia wrote:
On January 24 2011 19:42 hauton wrote:
In comes the fanboys to bawww about horang2 all-in-ing

zero such complaints thus far, only one bawwing is you


On January 24 2011 19:41 nozaro33 wrote:
= = Horang2 that was just lame
Guess you're called cheesy toss for a reason

It's funny because Stork himself did the exactly same build several days ago.

Yep. Stork beat Tyson by going 4 gate.

... which I'm sure is why virtually no one has complained
hauton
Profile Joined March 2009
Hong Kong743 Posts
January 24 2011 10:48 GMT
#307
On January 24 2011 19:48 kuroshiroi wrote:
Why couldn't Stork scout it? Did H2 kill off the scouting probe and then build 2 more gates?

Yep.

His goon led the scouting probe behind the min line where his zealot was blocking.
keep it up, youll either be famous or homeless one day
Renkaoru
Profile Joined October 2010
390 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-24 10:51:33
January 24 2011 10:49 GMT
#308
On January 24 2011 19:43 writer22816 wrote:
Fuck, I had no idea 4 gate was this nasty. What did Stork do wrong this game? He wasn't even going greedy, just standard 2 gate reaver.


Yeah, I had no idea as well. That was a never-ending stream of dragoons. Even perfect shuttle micro would have been unable to defend against that.

Stork isn't to blame for this loss however. It was Hydra's awesome skill that won it for Hite. Grats for getting your first SWL win, Entusmen.
God is in His heaven. All is right with the world.
jackknight
Profile Joined March 2010
United States51 Posts
January 24 2011 10:49 GMT
#309
On January 24 2011 19:48 kuroshiroi wrote:
Why couldn't Stork scout it? Did H2 kill off the scouting probe and then build 2 more gates?

yeh... actually from 1 gate to 4 gate so 3 more gate
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
January 24 2011 10:50 GMT
#310
I think going reaver first meant Stork had a bit of a decent chance, the builds 4 gate absolutely crushes are standard 1gate obs or 2 gate obs (or non-DT FE I guess, do people do that?).

But yeah, shuttle went down, and if that happens he can't abuse its range very well. Horang2 did good.
The original Bogus fan.
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
January 24 2011 10:51 GMT
#311
So, basically that was a perfectly executed 4gate. gg Stork.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
January 24 2011 10:51 GMT
#312
On January 24 2011 19:46 structuralinertia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 19:45 moopie wrote:
On January 24 2011 19:44 structuralinertia wrote:
On January 24 2011 19:42 hauton wrote:
In comes the fanboys to bawww about horang2 all-in-ing

zero such complaints thus far, only one bawwing is you

Several so far actually.

I see one, and it's not from a fanboy anyhow

On January 24 2011 19:37 dukethegold wrote:
Horang2 is going to all in like a pussy

On January 24 2011 19:41 nozaro33 wrote:
= = Horang2 that was just lame
Guess you're called cheesy toss for a reason

In the end, Horang2 did what he needed to and got the job done.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
structuralinertia
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia1426 Posts
January 24 2011 10:52 GMT
#313
well it's a good thing we've got you guys in here to help us counter the wave of Horang2 anti-fans...
sinistral
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore859 Posts
January 24 2011 10:53 GMT
#314
I expected a good long macro PvP since it's Horang2. Poor Stork.
(´・ω・`)
LichtgestaltSC
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany166 Posts
January 24 2011 10:55 GMT
#315
On January 24 2011 19:51 moopie wrote:
In the end, Horang2 did what he needed to and got the job done.


It´s always that way. If Stork would have gone for that strategy and won with it, he would be a genius. If he gets beaten by it, it´s cheese and nooby...
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
January 24 2011 10:56 GMT
#316
On January 24 2011 19:45 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 19:42 kuroshiroi wrote:
Stork forgot to micro his shuttle/reaver or something, he was close to holding it, I think?


No. He didn't forget to micro it, the problem is that H2 hit great timing, entering Stork's main with 5+ goons right when reaver popped, effectively countering it as shuttle snipe is easy when you don't have anything blocking your way to it.


Yeah I agree with you. IMO you can't really micro slow shuttles vs a large amount of dragoons while having next to none yourself. There really is no way you can stop the shuttle snipe (besides not using the shuttle).
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 24 2011 10:56 GMT
#317
How is Horang2 so good at PvP and so fail at everything else? O_o
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
structuralinertia
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia1426 Posts
January 24 2011 10:57 GMT
#318
On January 24 2011 19:55 LichtgestaltSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 19:51 moopie wrote:
In the end, Horang2 did what he needed to and got the job done.


It´s always that way. If Stork would have gone for that strategy and won with it, he would be a genius. If he gets beaten by it, it´s cheese and nooby...

not at all. Stork did that strategy, and didn't get called a genius. Horang2 has done it and most comments have complimented his control or just noted Stork's lack of reaver control...
LichtgestaltSC
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany166 Posts
January 24 2011 11:01 GMT
#319
On January 24 2011 19:57 structuralinertia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 19:55 LichtgestaltSC wrote:
On January 24 2011 19:51 moopie wrote:
In the end, Horang2 did what he needed to and got the job done.


It´s always that way. If Stork would have gone for that strategy and won with it, he would be a genius. If he gets beaten by it, it´s cheese and nooby...

not at all. Stork did that strategy, and didn't get called a genius. Horang2 has done it and most comments have complimented his control or just noted Stork's lack of reaver control...


Yes, you´re actually right. I didn´t mean to say everybody says it that way, I just spoke to the people that did (and there were people who did).
And that most other comments were in good manners shows good sportsmanship from the Khan fans, so I apologize, the tone of the first post was not exactly right.
structuralinertia
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia1426 Posts
January 24 2011 11:04 GMT
#320
On January 24 2011 20:01 LichtgestaltSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 19:57 structuralinertia wrote:
On January 24 2011 19:55 LichtgestaltSC wrote:
On January 24 2011 19:51 moopie wrote:
In the end, Horang2 did what he needed to and got the job done.


It´s always that way. If Stork would have gone for that strategy and won with it, he would be a genius. If he gets beaten by it, it´s cheese and nooby...

not at all. Stork did that strategy, and didn't get called a genius. Horang2 has done it and most comments have complimented his control or just noted Stork's lack of reaver control...


Yes, you´re actually right. I didn´t mean to say everybody says it that way, I just spoke to the people that did (and there were people who did).
And that most other comments were in good manners shows good sportsmanship from the Khan fans, so I apologize, the tone of the first post was not exactly right.

fair enough. Well done by Horang2 anyhow, excellent control and deserved victory
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