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[SWL] Hite Entus vs Hwaseung OZ - Page 18

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Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
January 22 2011 15:18 GMT
#341
On January 22 2011 15:59 Ryusei-R1 wrote:
Sweet jesus

they won without Jaedong


Mini-dong hwaiting!

Seriously though, I'd have sworn before the match that Hydra would make Killer look silly, and we'd have a top-notch ZvZ with Jaedong and Hydra. But I guess not.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
January 22 2011 16:31 GMT
#342
I'm surprised that Perfectman beat Horang2 and Leta but Killer getting another 2-kill isn't that surprising. He's a pretty solid player (who occasionally fails miserably) with no particularly bad matchups (although he does tend to suck in lategame ZvT).
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
January 22 2011 16:31 GMT
#343
On January 22 2011 15:15 YaKool wrote:
First Lomo 2-0 Then Perfectman 2-0 and now Killer 2-0

OZ making comeback this WL!

You forgot Hiya's 2-0, with amazing amazing game vs. Violet, probably one of the best games this season.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
January 22 2011 19:13 GMT
#344
Woahhhh Killer, stepping it up. Although I guess if any matchup was a coin flip, it would be ZvZ (with the exception being jaedong)
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
January 22 2011 21:07 GMT
#345
I think Killer showed clearly you don't need to attempt to get a 4th base and hive as quickly as possible these days.
JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-22 21:13:43
January 22 2011 21:12 GMT
#346
On January 23 2011 06:07 infinity2k9 wrote:
I think Killer showed clearly you don't need to attempt to get a 4th base and hive as quickly as possible these days.


I found that odd and thought about it for some time. I believe the reason Killer was able to stay on three bases and win is beause that third base that protoss took was pretty hard to defend. That ramp is large and there is a lot of room to run hydras through it. Also, Protoss actually took the closest base to Zerg. Thus the Zerg opponent was able to focus on denying it instead of expanding himself.

So yes, staying on three bases is viable but that depends on the map and where the protoss expands.
perfecting the art of five pool forever
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
January 22 2011 21:45 GMT
#347
Just wondering, are the winner's interviews from this match going to be translated? I want to see what Killer and Perfectman have to say.
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
January 22 2011 21:51 GMT
#348
Jaedong looked so happy! if other players on oz continue to win, that would just be amazing

On January 22 2011 13:02 Craton wrote:
This game comes down to jaedong winning or losing.

And then hite not losing to the hiya/lomo/pman unstoppable tandem...


Glad to see you were wrong (besides pman)
jaedong imba
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
January 22 2011 21:55 GMT
#349
On January 23 2011 06:12 JohnBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 06:07 infinity2k9 wrote:
I think Killer showed clearly you don't need to attempt to get a 4th base and hive as quickly as possible these days.


I found that odd and thought about it for some time. I believe the reason Killer was able to stay on three bases and win is beause that third base that protoss took was pretty hard to defend. That ramp is large and there is a lot of room to run hydras through it. Also, Protoss actually took the closest base to Zerg. Thus the Zerg opponent was able to focus on denying it instead of expanding himself.

So yes, staying on three bases is viable but that depends on the map and where the protoss expands.


Yeah i don't want to say this as the definitive strategy to use in ZvP now or anything, and Snow's decision to attempt a third at that position instead of commiting to 2 base vs 3 certainly helped, but you could see just by pure unit count Killer wasn't struggling heavily like so many other games i've seen recently.. i can just imagine JD immediately taking the 12 o clock natural then the 12 main and barely trying to hold the first push.
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
January 23 2011 01:40 GMT
#350
Is anyone doing the interview? It's not everyday the new guard takes home a win
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
r3z3nd3
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil522 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 17:40:48
January 23 2011 17:36 GMT
#351
On January 22 2011 14:42 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2011 14:41 r3z3nd3 wrote:
Baxter will make the next 2 kills

Dunno, snow sees on his game today, at least so far...

Snow's probe still alive in KIller's main - even 6 lings can't surround it
I'm pretty uninpressed

core starts in snow's main as the gate in front of his choke finishes

lair for killer


Hah! It happened. Oz winning w/out Bisu. Baxter making the 2-kill =) I still believe in his potential
Born to fast expand
r3z3nd3
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil522 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 17:53:32
January 23 2011 17:52 GMT
#352
On January 22 2011 20:56 Cpadolf wrote:
No I mean team standings for WL, not player stats.


As for 23/01

wl

5-0 rolster
4-0 khan
3-2 oz
3-2 t1
3-2 hero
2-3 fox
2-3 soul
2-2 stars
0-5 ace
0-5 entus

edit: sorry for 2 posts in a row :<
Born to fast expand
Slakkoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1119 Posts
January 23 2011 18:06 GMT
#353
So they won w/o JD...
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
January 25 2011 04:20 GMT
#354
Oh man just finished the vods.

Thought perfectman was gonna pull off a DT all kill lol.

Who woulda thought Oz would win 4:1 with Perfect Killer hahaha

JD soo proud!
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
AlwaysGG
Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
January 25 2011 04:53 GMT
#355
oz beat hite without jaedong , whoaaaaa sigh fail on hite part
Trust 神教教主 FlaSh | Believe 火心 EffOrt
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