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smekz
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal503 Posts
January 21 2011 13:54 GMT
#561
ya kinda, modesty didnt stood a chance in any game i guess^^

translate interview plzzzzzz <3
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 21 2011 13:57 GMT
#562
On January 21 2011 22:45 hauton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2011 22:33 Holgerius wrote:
I normally try to refrain from using strong words against people myself, but in this case I just couldn't help myself. Just because Flash made it look easy to keep on winning Bo5s in consecutive days last year doesn't mean it isn't really, really, really, really hard and unusual.

I think I clarified in my last post, but just to be clear:

I mentioned Flash and Nada explicitly because they were the only two I know for a fact have succeeded in simultaneous SLs. Because they went all the way and won them both outright.

Stork should not be excused for his loss to Zero because many people have won simultaneous BOXs at the quarter- and semi-final level. He doesn't need to be Flash or Nada to do that.

Mention these ''many people'' please.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
January 21 2011 14:04 GMT
#563
okkkkk stork vs fantasy

we're all set.
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
hauton
Profile Joined March 2009
Hong Kong743 Posts
January 21 2011 14:04 GMT
#564
On January 21 2011 22:57 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2011 22:45 hauton wrote:
On January 21 2011 22:33 Holgerius wrote:
I normally try to refrain from using strong words against people myself, but in this case I just couldn't help myself. Just because Flash made it look easy to keep on winning Bo5s in consecutive days last year doesn't mean it isn't really, really, really, really hard and unusual.

I think I clarified in my last post, but just to be clear:

I mentioned Flash and Nada explicitly because they were the only two I know for a fact have succeeded in simultaneous SLs. Because they went all the way and won them both outright.

Stork should not be excused for his loss to Zero because many people have won simultaneous BOXs at the quarter- and semi-final level. He doesn't need to be Flash or Nada to do that.

Mention these ''many people'' please.

Hey, if you're not willing to do the research, why should I? But what the hey, another obvious candidate would be Jaedong. IIRC, Savior made it to simultaneous finals as well.

But hey, if you're not willing to believe me that many progamers have gone better than simultaneous Ro8/Ro4 in the Single Leagues, be my guest.

My argument doesn't even imply that a progamer has to advance to both Finals and Semis. Seeing as we're talking about that single game of a segmented Bo5, we're really talking about one's ability to advance in one league (tonight's OSL), while winning game 1 of another (last night's MSL).
keep it up, youll either be famous or homeless one day
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3513 Posts
January 21 2011 14:04 GMT
#565
Winning simultaneous quarter/semifinals? Anyone over like 2100 ELO has done that at some point.. oO
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
January 21 2011 14:08 GMT
#566
On January 21 2011 23:04 Gescom wrote:
Winning simultaneous quarter/semifinals? Anyone over like 2100 ELO has done that at some point.. oO




Protoss? i dont think so. Maybe bisu did that once. T and Z ofc.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-21 14:14:49
January 21 2011 14:08 GMT
#567
On January 21 2011 23:04 hauton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2011 22:57 Holgerius wrote:
On January 21 2011 22:45 hauton wrote:
On January 21 2011 22:33 Holgerius wrote:
I normally try to refrain from using strong words against people myself, but in this case I just couldn't help myself. Just because Flash made it look easy to keep on winning Bo5s in consecutive days last year doesn't mean it isn't really, really, really, really hard and unusual.

I think I clarified in my last post, but just to be clear:

I mentioned Flash and Nada explicitly because they were the only two I know for a fact have succeeded in simultaneous SLs. Because they went all the way and won them both outright.

Stork should not be excused for his loss to Zero because many people have won simultaneous BOXs at the quarter- and semi-final level. He doesn't need to be Flash or Nada to do that.

Mention these ''many people'' please.

Hey, if you're not willing to do the research, why should I?


Because you're the one who said the following statement. If you know "countless others", surely you can roll off five or ten off the top of your head.

Preparation hasn't stopped Flash, Nada and countless others who've made simultaneous SL semi/finals.


On January 21 2011 23:08 Baddieko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2011 23:04 Gescom wrote:
Winning simultaneous quarter/semifinals? Anyone over like 2100 ELO has done that at some point.. oO


Protoss? i dont think so. Maybe bisu did that once. T and Z ofc.


Stork in 2007
GOMTV2 MSL: Silver
Daum OSL: Bronze

Stork also came close in 2008, but lost to Kal in Clubday 2-3 while winning the Incruit OSL.

Otherwise, in modern BW history, I can only think of Flash, Savior, Nada and Jaedong... That is all.
Meh
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 21 2011 14:09 GMT
#568
On January 21 2011 23:04 hauton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2011 22:57 Holgerius wrote:
On January 21 2011 22:45 hauton wrote:
On January 21 2011 22:33 Holgerius wrote:
I normally try to refrain from using strong words against people myself, but in this case I just couldn't help myself. Just because Flash made it look easy to keep on winning Bo5s in consecutive days last year doesn't mean it isn't really, really, really, really hard and unusual.

I think I clarified in my last post, but just to be clear:

I mentioned Flash and Nada explicitly because they were the only two I know for a fact have succeeded in simultaneous SLs. Because they went all the way and won them both outright.

Stork should not be excused for his loss to Zero because many people have won simultaneous BOXs at the quarter- and semi-final level. He doesn't need to be Flash or Nada to do that.

Mention these ''many people'' please.

Hey, if you're not willing to do the research, why should I? But what the hey, another obvious candidate would be Jaedong. IIRC, Savior made it to simultaneous finals as well.

But hey, if you're not willing to believe me that many progamers have gone better than simultaneous Ro8/Ro4 in the Single Leagues, be my guest.

My argument doesn't even imply that a progamer has to advance to both Finals and Semis. Seeing as we're talking about that single game of a segmented Bo5, we're really talking about one's ability to advance in one league (tonight's OSL), while winning game 1 of another (last night's MSL).

You should do it because you're the one coming with silly claims. Burden of proof.

I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
January 21 2011 14:11 GMT
#569
On January 21 2011 23:04 hauton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2011 22:57 Holgerius wrote:
On January 21 2011 22:45 hauton wrote:
On January 21 2011 22:33 Holgerius wrote:
I normally try to refrain from using strong words against people myself, but in this case I just couldn't help myself. Just because Flash made it look easy to keep on winning Bo5s in consecutive days last year doesn't mean it isn't really, really, really, really hard and unusual.

I think I clarified in my last post, but just to be clear:

I mentioned Flash and Nada explicitly because they were the only two I know for a fact have succeeded in simultaneous SLs. Because they went all the way and won them both outright.

Stork should not be excused for his loss to Zero because many people have won simultaneous BOXs at the quarter- and semi-final level. He doesn't need to be Flash or Nada to do that.

Mention these ''many people'' please.

Hey, if you're not willing to do the research, why should I? But what the hey, another obvious candidate would be Jaedong. IIRC, Savior made it to simultaneous finals as well.

But hey, if you're not willing to believe me that many progamers have gone better than simultaneous Ro8/Ro4 in the Single Leagues, be my guest.

My argument doesn't even imply that a progamer has to advance to both Finals and Semis. Seeing as we're talking about that single game of a segmented Bo5, we're really talking about one's ability to advance in one league (tonight's OSL), while winning game 1 of another (last night's MSL).

if you put it that way, stork won simultaneous in ro32. ro 16 and (probably) ro8 already
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
Fwmeh
Profile Joined April 2008
1286 Posts
January 21 2011 14:14 GMT
#570
On January 21 2011 23:04 hauton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2011 22:57 Holgerius wrote:
On January 21 2011 22:45 hauton wrote:
On January 21 2011 22:33 Holgerius wrote:
I normally try to refrain from using strong words against people myself, but in this case I just couldn't help myself. Just because Flash made it look easy to keep on winning Bo5s in consecutive days last year doesn't mean it isn't really, really, really, really hard and unusual.

I think I clarified in my last post, but just to be clear:

I mentioned Flash and Nada explicitly because they were the only two I know for a fact have succeeded in simultaneous SLs. Because they went all the way and won them both outright.

Stork should not be excused for his loss to Zero because many people have won simultaneous BOXs at the quarter- and semi-final level. He doesn't need to be Flash or Nada to do that.

Mention these ''many people'' please.

Hey, if you're not willing to do the research, why should I? But what the hey, another obvious candidate would be Jaedong. IIRC, Savior made it to simultaneous finals as well.

Yes, Savior made simultaneous finals. And was at that time the Bonjwa and undisputed best player, at least before the final to Bisu, and probably for some time after that final as well.

Fact is, making dual finals, or even dual semi-finals, has always been the exception, NOT the norm. That is why Flash's and Jaedong's recent domination has been so profound, and why those two have been sitting alone at the top for so long. For most of broodwar's history, it has not been like that.
A parser for things is a function from strings to lists of pairs of things and strings
solidphoenix
Profile Joined October 2007
Australia16 Posts
January 21 2011 14:16 GMT
#571
On January 21 2011 21:46 purpose wrote:
The sad thing though is. That even if I dont really like Terran, I have always liked Fantasy and ever since he los to stork in that OSL final I have been hoping that he could get that gold he deserv.

Though He just cant get it on the cost of Stork so sorry Fanta :-) If he do beat stork I will be kinda upset at first, but it will feel better that he took it then if it would have been anyone els :-)


I totally second that. Despite being bored with the race I always want Fantasy to win when I watch him play. Perhaps that's got something to do with being a fan of SKT1, but regardless I hope he puts up a great fight with Stork because he was on fire tonight.
gl hf and never say gg
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-21 14:22:16
January 21 2011 14:18 GMT
#572
Savior did it once, but other than that he kept getting knocked out of OSL in the prelimilaries.

Basically the only people who does stuff like that are players like Nada, Flash, Jaedong, and then we are talking about Top 5 in the history of the game. It is not common.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
January 21 2011 14:23 GMT
#573
On January 21 2011 23:08 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2011 23:04 hauton wrote:
On January 21 2011 22:57 Holgerius wrote:
On January 21 2011 22:45 hauton wrote:
On January 21 2011 22:33 Holgerius wrote:
I normally try to refrain from using strong words against people myself, but in this case I just couldn't help myself. Just because Flash made it look easy to keep on winning Bo5s in consecutive days last year doesn't mean it isn't really, really, really, really hard and unusual.

I think I clarified in my last post, but just to be clear:

I mentioned Flash and Nada explicitly because they were the only two I know for a fact have succeeded in simultaneous SLs. Because they went all the way and won them both outright.

Stork should not be excused for his loss to Zero because many people have won simultaneous BOXs at the quarter- and semi-final level. He doesn't need to be Flash or Nada to do that.

Mention these ''many people'' please.

Hey, if you're not willing to do the research, why should I?


Because you're the one who said the following statement. If you know "countless others", surely you can roll off five or ten off the top of your head.

Show nested quote +
Preparation hasn't stopped Flash, Nada and countless others who've made simultaneous SL semi/finals.


Show nested quote +
On January 21 2011 23:08 Baddieko wrote:
On January 21 2011 23:04 Gescom wrote:
Winning simultaneous quarter/semifinals? Anyone over like 2100 ELO has done that at some point.. oO


Protoss? i dont think so. Maybe bisu did that once. T and Z ofc.


Stork in 2007
GOMTV2 MSL: Silver
Daum OSL: Bronze

Stork also came close in 2008, but lost to Kal in Clubday 2-3 while winning the Incruit OSL.

Otherwise, in modern BW history, I can only think of Flash, Savior, Nada and Jaedong... That is all.




So its still stork holding the best protoss record for consecutive semi finals. Now he is bidding to beat his old record. Protoss is really weak man.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 21 2011 14:26 GMT
#574
Btw, I can't wait for someone to translate the interview. :D
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
January 21 2011 14:26 GMT
#575
If Fantasy wins, then Yellow will pretty much be alone in the Kong line. Maybe he'll acknowledge Jangbi as a part of it out of loneliness.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
January 21 2011 14:34 GMT
#576
On January 21 2011 23:26 Holgerius wrote:
Btw, I can't wait for someone to translate the interview. :D

Can't translate the interview since I have to go to school really soon, but be patient, someone is probably working on it right now and it should be going up sooner or later. The DES version is kinda long, with 14 questions and 14 sort of long-winded answers. The wait should be worth it though.

Damn you school, I could be reading me up some beautiful Byung Goo words of wisdom right now. DDD:
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-21 15:25:29
January 21 2011 14:45 GMT
#577
Man, Stork better not lose to Fantasy. I don't even care if he's kicked out of the MSL by Zero.
Meh
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
January 21 2011 15:18 GMT
#578
time for stork to get that gold!
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
January 21 2011 15:33 GMT
#579
This is the closest thing we can have for a Lee Ssang Rok.

FUCK YEAH STORK
Jaedong plz
Pafnucy
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland1124 Posts
January 21 2011 15:40 GMT
#580
Time to watch these games, big thanks to moktira for super fast upload.
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