• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:39
CEST 20:39
KST 03:39
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy4Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic7Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru3BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview27
Community News
Classic & herO RO8 Interviews: "I think it’s time to teach [Rogue] a lesson."2Rogue & GuMiho RO8 interviews: "Lifting that trophy would be a testament to all I’ve had to overcome over the years and how far I’ve come on this journey.3Code S RO8 Results + RO4 Bracket (2025 Season 2)12BGE Stara Zagora 2025 - Replay Pack2Weekly Cups (June 2-8): herO doubles down1
StarCraft 2
General
Classic & herO RO8 Interviews: "I think it’s time to teach [Rogue] a lesson." Code S RO8 Results + RO4 Bracket (2025 Season 2) Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho Rogue & GuMiho RO8 interviews: "Lifting that trophy would be a testament to all I’ve had to overcome over the years and how far I’ve come on this journey. I have an extra ticket to the GSL Ro4/finals
Tourneys
[GSL 2025] Code S: Season 2 - Semi Finals & Finals $3,500 WardiTV European League 2025 Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance
Brood War
General
ASL20 Preliminary Maps BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recent recommended BW games BW General Discussion FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 4
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason What do you want from future RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread NHL Playoffs 2024 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
A Better Routine For Progame…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 32637 users

[MSL] Ro16 Day 4 - Page 5

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 19 20 21 Next All
5unrise
Profile Joined May 2009
New Zealand646 Posts
January 15 2011 08:41 GMT
#81
On January 15 2011 17:39 randombum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 17:37 5unrise wrote:
Why don't zerg build the 3rd hatch in a more obscure location of the base? Reinforcements arrive a bit slower, but there is a potential of forcing early bunkers/ turrets... any B level or above zergs want to explain?


Its not the third hatch the build away, good terrans can infer based off lair/gas timings. Also, the scv will see the whole base anyways, unless you mean in another base, and that's not done for other reasons.


Makes a lot of sense, esp regards to reading by the lair timing. Ty
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
January 15 2011 08:41 GMT
#82
On January 15 2011 17:41 Holgerius wrote:
Lol, what the shit did he do there?

optical flare on the lurker.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
January 15 2011 08:42 GMT
#83
First vessel dies to scourge.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
January 15 2011 08:42 GMT
#84
Calm snipes the first vessel!
Neo7
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States922 Posts
January 15 2011 08:42 GMT
#85
He almost saved that vessel. I see a hive done and expecting to see defilers out very very soon.
It takes an idiot to do cool things.
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
January 15 2011 08:43 GMT
#86
MnM still preventing Calm from getting a 4th gas though.
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
January 15 2011 08:45 GMT
#87
2-2 upgrades on sak vs 1 armor only. Early ebay showing its effects.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
January 15 2011 08:46 GMT
#88
wow ssak really going hardcore SK Terran here
Writerptrk
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
January 15 2011 08:46 GMT
#89
Ssak going for pure SK Terran it seems. He even has a 3rd Starport going up to further increase vessel production.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
January 15 2011 08:46 GMT
#90
haha plague miss :O
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
tabula rasa
Profile Joined December 2010
360 Posts
January 15 2011 08:46 GMT
#91
if calm wanted to protect his defilers, couldn't he burrow a lurker on top of a burrowed defiler?
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 08:48:37
January 15 2011 08:47 GMT
#92
At this point I am pretty sure that Calm is saving for Ultras. Meanwhile Ssak is freely expanding to 8
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 15 2011 08:47 GMT
#93
He should totally take the other main and switch to mass tanks and shit alá Flash now.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 08:48:33
January 15 2011 08:48 GMT
#94
On January 15 2011 17:41 5unrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 17:39 randombum wrote:
On January 15 2011 17:37 5unrise wrote:
Why don't zerg build the 3rd hatch in a more obscure location of the base? Reinforcements arrive a bit slower, but there is a potential of forcing early bunkers/ turrets... any B level or above zergs want to explain?


Its not the third hatch the build away, good terrans can infer based off lair/gas timings. Also, the scv will see the whole base anyways, unless you mean in another base, and that's not done for other reasons.


Makes a lot of sense, esp regards to reading by the lair timing. Ty


Actually people often build the third hatch near the ramp, which is away form the main mineral line most of the times anyways, and plant there the tech if the have killed the SCV to force an extra scan.

Oh, you meant why dont they fake 2 hatch ...
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
5unrise
Profile Joined May 2009
New Zealand646 Posts
January 15 2011 08:48 GMT
#95
Terran's expansion count is rising to an unacceptable level for zerg. Calm has to put on some pressure soon..
5unrise
Profile Joined May 2009
New Zealand646 Posts
January 15 2011 08:49 GMT
#96
On January 15 2011 17:48 Mortician wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 17:41 5unrise wrote:
On January 15 2011 17:39 randombum wrote:
On January 15 2011 17:37 5unrise wrote:
Why don't zerg build the 3rd hatch in a more obscure location of the base? Reinforcements arrive a bit slower, but there is a potential of forcing early bunkers/ turrets... any B level or above zergs want to explain?


Its not the third hatch the build away, good terrans can infer based off lair/gas timings. Also, the scv will see the whole base anyways, unless you mean in another base, and that's not done for other reasons.


Makes a lot of sense, esp regards to reading by the lair timing. Ty


Actually people often build the third hatch near the ramp, which is away form the main mineral line most of the times anyways, and plant there the tech if the have killed the SCV to force an extra scan.

Oh, you meant why dont they fake 2 hatch ...


Yeah thats what I meant
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
January 15 2011 08:49 GMT
#97
Things not going so well for calm, 4 bases vs 5 in favor or terran. 3 port vessals with tons of vessals. Ssak has total map control and powerful upgrades on his Mnm. Going to take some good play by Calm to turn this around.
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
January 15 2011 08:49 GMT
#98
Did Calm forget to research adrenal? It looks like it.
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 08:51:35
January 15 2011 08:50 GMT
#99
On January 15 2011 17:49 randombum wrote:
Things not going so well for calm, 4 bases vs 5 in favor or terran. 3 port vessals with tons of vessals. Ssak has total map control and powerful upgrades on his Mnm. Going to take some good play by Calm to turn this around.


What? I am seeing 4 terran bases and 5 Z

nvm, didnt see the mineral only and 12 had no drones
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
5unrise
Profile Joined May 2009
New Zealand646 Posts
January 15 2011 08:51 GMT
#100
Now Calm shut down some expansions!
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 19 20 21 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL: ProLeague
18:00
Bracket Stage: Day 3
Hawk vs UltrA
Sziky vs spx
TerrOr vs JDConan
ZZZero.O0
LiquipediaDiscussion
CSO Cup
17:00
#80
Liquipedia
Cheesadelphia
15:00
Cheeseadelphia 2025
CranKy Ducklings478
davetesta78
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
BRAT_OK 88
MindelVK 49
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 24388
Calm 4251
Rain 2914
Horang2 1552
Dewaltoss 143
Nal_rA 133
JulyZerg 51
Rock 33
scan(afreeca) 23
Terrorterran 7
[ Show more ]
IntoTheRainbow 6
ZZZero.O 0
Dota 2
Gorgc7681
qojqva2413
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Grubby2673
Dendi1515
JimRising 808
Counter-Strike
fl0m6116
olofmeister2977
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King87
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor651
Liquid`Hasu545
Other Games
tarik_tv45536
gofns22560
C9.Mang0489
DeMusliM454
crisheroes417
B2W.Neo147
TKL 118
ArmadaUGS98
Trikslyr63
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream8397
Other Games
gamesdonequick1112
EGCTV894
StarCraft 2
angryscii 47
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 86
• Adnapsc2 28
• 3DClanTV 23
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3539
• WagamamaTV354
• Ler104
League of Legends
• Nemesis7192
Other Games
• imaqtpie1223
• Shiphtur320
Upcoming Events
GSL Code S
13h 21m
Rogue vs herO
Classic vs GuMiho
Sparkling Tuna Cup
15h 21m
WardiTV Qualifier
21h 21m
BSL: ProLeague
23h 21m
Bonyth vs Dewalt
Cross vs Doodle
MadiNho vs Dragon
Replay Cast
1d 5h
Wardi Open
1d 16h
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Cure vs Percival
ByuN vs Spirit
RSL Revival
3 days
herO vs sOs
Zoun vs Clem
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Serral vs SHIN
Solar vs Cham
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Reynor vs Scarlett
ShoWTimE vs Classic
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
SC Evo League
6 days
Circuito Brasileiro de…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-06-11
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
2025 GSL S2
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
BLAST Open Fall 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.