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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On January 16 2011 02:39 L0thar wrote: And the suffering of Terran race in individual leagues continue... Continue(s)? Didn't a terran win 3 out of the 4 individual league finals in 2010? Oh yes, he did.. | ||
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mierin
United States4942 Posts
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On January 17 2011 01:55 tomatriedes wrote: Continue(s)? Didn't a terran win 3 out of the 4 individual league finals in 2010? Oh yes, he did.. Technically, in minds of woe-is-terran fans, Flash and Fantasy don't count as terrans. So he is correct in saying that terrans have not done anything for ages. | ||
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L0thar
987 Posts
On January 17 2011 01:55 tomatriedes wrote: Continue(s)? Didn't a terran win 3 out of the 4 individual league finals in 2010? Oh yes, he did.. Terran race is suffering. A certain terran isnť. That's not mutually exclusive. If the whole world was dying in poverty but one man could have everything he wanted, wouldn't you say that the human race is suffering? | ||
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Cpadolf
Sweden1199 Posts
On January 17 2011 02:36 L0thar wrote: Terran race is suffering. A certain terran isnť. That's not mutually exclusive. If the whole world was dying in poverty but one man could have everything he wanted, wouldn't you say that the human race is suffering? Well, 8 out of the top 15 PL players are Terran, 4 of the top 15 ELO, TvZ is 52.5% and PvT is 50.5% for PL also. There where 3 Terrans in the Ro8 of OSL and now 1 in the final. The MSL is the only place you can really say Terran is suffering, and it has pretty shitty maps for Terran, but last season when the maps where good for them, 5 out of 8 in Ro8 and 3 out of 4 in Ro4 where Terran. Terran isn't doing the best right now but come on. EDIT: Noticed that your original post said individual leagues. so my first part is irrelevant I guess, but I still stand by my point. | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On January 17 2011 02:36 L0thar wrote: Terran race is suffering. A certain terran isnť. That's not mutually exclusive. If the whole world was dying in poverty but one man could have everything he wanted, wouldn't you say that the human race is suffering? Take out the best players of a race and you can always say they're suffering. You know who the 7th best protoss was during the 6 dragons era? + Show Spoiler + BackHo IIRC. Also some of the dragons had sub-50% MUs. Yes they all had 60%-ish overall winrate, but that's their golden age. Terran isn't that much worse right now. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On January 17 2011 02:59 Cpadolf wrote: Well, 8 out of the top 15 PL players are Terran, 4 of the top 15 ELO, TvZ is 52.5% and PvT is 50.5% for PL also. There where 3 Terrans in the Ro8 of OSL and now 1 in the final. The MSL is the only place you can really say Terran is suffering, and it has pretty shitty maps for Terran, but last season when the maps where good for them, 5 out of 8 in Ro8 and 3 out of 4 in Ro4 where Terran. Terran isn't doing the best right now but come on. EDIT: Noticed that your original post said individual leagues. so my first part is irrelevant I guess, but I still stand by my point. Also to note, 4 of the top 15 is disproportionately against terrans. | ||
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bITt.mAN
Switzerland3689 Posts
Ok, in terms of writing Battle Reports the first game is give, so it does have value in that sense, but still, we're probably missing out on some great stuff if we're not told to watch any of the 1st BO3 games | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On January 17 2011 04:07 bITt.mAN wrote: I don't get this, how come the first games of the series are effectively written-off? Their results are displayed, and they have no review. Aren't they important too? Ok, in terms of writing Battle Reports the first game is give, so it does have value in that sense, but still, we're probably missing out on some great stuff if we're not told to watch any of the 1st BO3 games Those games were played at an earlier date. Going into these games, 1 game of each series was already decided and that was to provide the information to the thread so people wouldn't go "But he only won one game, why is the series over?" They have their own threads on the forum from when they were broadcasted. | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On January 17 2011 02:36 L0thar wrote: Terran race is suffering. A certain terran isnť. That's not mutually exclusive. If the whole world was dying in poverty but one man could have everything he wanted, wouldn't you say that the human race is suffering? So when there were 3 out of 4 terrans in the last MSL round of 4, Flash was the only one who wasn't suffering? Come on man, the top players out of every race always do disproportionately better than the other players. You can't just discount their results when it suits you. Also, In terms of results, protoss is actually the race that has suffered the most for the last few years- no titles in 2010 or 2009 in the individual leagues. Spare a thought for them.  | ||
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Weasel-
Canada1552 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On January 18 2011 14:46 jalstar wrote: I had a dream a few months ago that Snow used a carrier/corsair build to beat Jaedong. Didn't that actually happen though? Like with Bisu or Stork in 2008? Bisu beat Jaedong with corsair reaver->carrier in 08 on Andromeda. But it would be more interesting if Snow didn't win with carriers, but rather with archons. Lots and lots of archons. | ||
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FakePlasticLove
United States357 Posts
On January 18 2011 14:55 Lightwip wrote: Bisu beat Jaedong with corsair reaver->carrier in 08 on Andromeda. But it would be more interesting if Snow didn't win with carriers, but rather with archons. Lots and lots of archons. Like Free? On January 17 2011 03:44 Lightwip wrote: Take out the best players of a race and you can always say they're suffering. You know who the 7th best protoss was during the 6 dragons era? + Show Spoiler + BackHo IIRC. 6 Dragons doesnt equal 1 God. Even if you took out Bork you still had Kal, Jangbi, Free, Best who were making finals/semifinals constantly. Aside from the last MSL, Flash has been the only Terran to even reach a semifinal, that's not good for the Terran race. | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
Yes, like free. That game was pretty cool. | ||
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lastmotion
368 Posts
On January 17 2011 02:36 L0thar wrote: Terran race is suffering. A certain terran isnť. That's not mutually exclusive. If the whole world was dying in poverty but one man could have everything he wanted, wouldn't you say that the human race is suffering? If we look at the big picture (the entire history of BW), Terrans have dominated for almost a decade while Zerg less, and Protoss a lot less So they finally have a season recently that they don't do so hot. Is it that much of a problem? Terran race is not even close to suffering if you look at how dominant they were overall | ||
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