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NguN
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1322 Posts
January 13 2011 11:16 GMT
#761
On January 13 2011 20:14 Garrl wrote:
Stork played safe and won.

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i think stork cut his probe production and went for a timing all-in kill. god that game looked way too easy stork is on fire


A timing "allin" kill? That was far from an allin, he was just exploiting the fact Bisu had NO ARMY because he rushed DTs and was stopped by safe obs-first play.


Was definitely an all-in push.

Bisu expoed earlier, better economy, had better tech, had better upgrades. The only advantage Stork did have was in army, which he cut everything else, and added 2 extra gateways, increasing that advatange.

Had Bisu somehow held that attack, Bisu would've taken the game. But alas, Stork had a beautiful attack.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
January 13 2011 11:17 GMT
#762
bad bisu, bad
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 13 2011 11:17 GMT
#763
Perfect play by Dinotoss. Perfect. ^__^
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
January 13 2011 11:18 GMT
#764
On January 13 2011 20:14 Garrl wrote:
Stork played safe and won.

Show nested quote +
i think stork cut his probe production and went for a timing all-in kill. god that game looked way too easy stork is on fire


A timing "allin" kill? That was far from an allin, he was just exploiting the fact Bisu had NO ARMY because he rushed DTs and was stopped by safe obs-first play.


stork cut probes for ages to get all the gates up. If that attack failed he would've been hugely behind economically. hence allin
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Renkaoru
Profile Joined October 2010
390 Posts
January 13 2011 11:18 GMT
#765
Those 2 observers really did Bisu in. One stopping the DT rush, the other scouting the templar drop.
God is in His heaven. All is right with the world.
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 11:19:05
January 13 2011 11:18 GMT
#766
On January 13 2011 20:13 hacklebeast wrote:
missed the hydra game, other 3 were disapointing. Not worth geting up at 4am. Oh well, that's just how bw goes.

The only quality game tonight imo was Hydra's game; he played like a total beast.

Ahhh, so unfortunate for Bisu to lose by BO, but I guess Bisu is too predictable at times... At least we still have a Protoss in this MSL! If Stork loses to a random Zerg after knocking Bisu out who had technically the greater chance of going deeper, I will be so pissed.
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
January 13 2011 11:18 GMT
#767
On January 13 2011 20:16 NguN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 20:14 Garrl wrote:
Stork played safe and won.

i think stork cut his probe production and went for a timing all-in kill. god that game looked way too easy stork is on fire


A timing "allin" kill? That was far from an allin, he was just exploiting the fact Bisu had NO ARMY because he rushed DTs and was stopped by safe obs-first play.


Was definitely an all-in push.

Bisu expoed earlier, better economy, had better tech, had better upgrades. The only advantage Stork did have was in army, which he cut everything else, and added 2 extra gateways, increasing that advatange.

Had Bisu somehow held that attack, Bisu would've taken the game. But alas, Stork had a beautiful attack.


WHAT allin attack? Have you played sc at all... that was just a timing push
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
January 13 2011 11:18 GMT
#768
On January 13 2011 20:12 ArvickHero wrote:
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On January 13 2011 20:10 hellbound wrote:
On January 13 2011 20:09 ArvickHero wrote:
Bisu with a nice advantage here, if he can hold off this incoming attack/harass


Isn't Stork at an advantage right now?

If Bisu had kept his shit back at his nat and used those HT to storm off the enemy army, he would've had the advantage of having faster Templar tech, better upgrades and I think he also had a faster expo.


Not necesarily true.

Stork was pounding goons off 3-4 gates, where bisu was going off of 1-2. Bisu was probing like a madman while filling out his whole tech tree. I think even with those 2 HT at the nat stork's push still steamrolls him, he played way too greedy
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
January 13 2011 11:18 GMT
#769
Stork may finally beat the Dong in a Bo5 the way he's playing :D Lets do it, JD gotta win big or not at all
Jaedong and Baby
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 11:19:54
January 13 2011 11:18 GMT
#770
Bisu's decision-making in this series was seriously lacking. To the point where I don't even know what's happening to this PvP.

In game 1, he pressured Stork despite having an econ disadvantage, resulting in rape in the first encounter and huge disadvantage for the rest of the game.

In game 2, he had a decent advantage, expanding earlier than Stork. But with the huge scouting disadvantage(Stork had an ob floating in his base), Bisu actually played risky going for the drop, and not putting up gateways quickly to catch up on units.

Absolutely horrendous play by Bisu. Basically rolled over. Stork didn't even play amazingly. He just played mistake-free games.
Meh
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 11:19:09
January 13 2011 11:18 GMT
#771
On January 13 2011 20:15 corumjhaelen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 20:12 ArvickHero wrote:
On January 13 2011 20:10 hellbound wrote:
On January 13 2011 20:09 ArvickHero wrote:
Bisu with a nice advantage here, if he can hold off this incoming attack/harass


Isn't Stork at an advantage right now?

If Bisu had kept his shit back at his nat and used those HT to storm off the enemy army, he would've had the advantage of having faster Templar tech, better upgrades and I think he also had a faster expo.

The problem of his BO are forge plus canons though.
And he would not have stopped that push with two HTs, he needed more gates. I'm not even sure he had range, but hey...

DT Forge Expand is a pretty staple and solid build, problem was Bisu didn't see that attack coming (for some reason god knows why not). The fact that it was cross positions too, Bisu should've had ample time to prepare, since they had same gate production, Bisu would've needed to add a couple more cannons, and use the storms to snipe the Reavers. unlike his game vs Kal, where he added a lot of cannons, Bisu simply got way too greedy here
Writerptrk
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
January 13 2011 11:19 GMT
#772
Will we ever see a Bisu vs. Jaedong Bo5 again? Fucking Stork, I hope he gets raped by Jaedong.
Jackle
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada859 Posts
January 13 2011 11:19 GMT
#773
On January 13 2011 20:15 corumjhaelen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 20:12 ArvickHero wrote:
On January 13 2011 20:10 hellbound wrote:
On January 13 2011 20:09 ArvickHero wrote:
Bisu with a nice advantage here, if he can hold off this incoming attack/harass


Isn't Stork at an advantage right now?

If Bisu had kept his shit back at his nat and used those HT to storm off the enemy army, he would've had the advantage of having faster Templar tech, better upgrades and I think he also had a faster expo.

The problem of his BO are forge plus canons though.
And he would not have stopped that push with two HTs, he needed more gates. I'm not even sure he had range, but hey...


Yeah definitely, the only way Bisu could've held that off with the two HTs at home would be to pray for some miracle storm that Stork doesn't move out of. Stork was pumping out of 5 gates and had 2 Reaver/Shuttle as support, Bisu really didn't stand a chance.
You called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind.
yoonyoon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1065 Posts
January 13 2011 11:19 GMT
#774
Stork interview - Stork likely to go against Great next?
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
January 13 2011 11:19 GMT
#775
On January 13 2011 20:16 NguN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 20:14 Garrl wrote:
Stork played safe and won.

i think stork cut his probe production and went for a timing all-in kill. god that game looked way too easy stork is on fire


A timing "allin" kill? That was far from an allin, he was just exploiting the fact Bisu had NO ARMY because he rushed DTs and was stopped by safe obs-first play.


Was definitely an all-in push.

Bisu expoed earlier, better economy, had better tech, had better upgrades. The only advantage Stork did have was in army, which he cut everything else, and added 2 extra gateways, increasing that advatange.

Had Bisu somehow held that attack, Bisu would've taken the game. But alas, Stork had a beautiful attack.


I'm doubting that you actually play the Protoss vs Protoss matchup on a level higher than D-/D.

Stork had a very comfortable economy. Bisu just played stupidly greedy in trying to fill out his entire tech tree while harassing.... and didn't make any units. A 2reaver push off of 2 bases isn't allin at all
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 13 2011 11:20 GMT
#776
Stork's fans are the greatest, no doubt. :D
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
January 13 2011 11:20 GMT
#777
On January 13 2011 20:14 Garrl wrote:
Stork played safe and won.

Show nested quote +
i think stork cut his probe production and went for a timing all-in kill. god that game looked way too easy stork is on fire


A timing "allin" kill? That was far from an allin, he was just exploiting the fact Bisu had NO ARMY because he rushed DTs and was stopped by safe obs-first play.



i have to see the vod, but as far as i remember his economy was really really bad. he invested all his money to make a huge army. i didn't want to critize his strat, it was the perfect counter to bisu's dt and perfectly executed. all i wanted to say is that if it didnt work for whatever reason bisu would have had an advantage.
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
January 13 2011 11:20 GMT
#778
--- Nuked ---
yoonyoon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1065 Posts
January 13 2011 11:20 GMT
#779
LOL Stork is asked about if he's upset about the vuvuzela ban
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 11:21:29
January 13 2011 11:21 GMT
#780
Cant call that allin...stork scouted everything and decided it was the best move. Its like if you scout 3 nexus before gate, and you throw down a shit ton of production buildings...

edit: or if you scout them expanding and teching multiple paths at the same time...
Jaedong :3
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