It was an 8rax. Luckily Barracks went CC before gas to capitalize on the fact that he wouldn't be aggressed after the rax cancel, so they're pretty even.
On January 10 2011 18:22 oBlade wrote: It was an 8rax. Luckily Barracks went CC before gas to capitalize on the fact that he wouldn't be aggressed after the rax cancel, so they're pretty even.
Barracks should be well ahead in econ if it was 8 Rax. The slightly faster CC for Ruby doesn't make up for the early SCV cutting involved when proxy 8 raxing, does it?
On January 10 2011 18:22 oBlade wrote: It was an 8rax. Luckily Barracks went CC before gas to capitalize on the fact that he wouldn't be aggressed after the rax cancel, so they're pretty even.
Barracks should be well ahead in econ if it was 8 Rax. The slightly faster CC for Ruby doesn't make up for the early SCV cutting involved when proxy 8 raxing, does it?
SCVs in TvT aren't like drones in ZvZ. It's not a big deal either way; it's basically even.
On January 10 2011 18:22 oBlade wrote: It was an 8rax. Luckily Barracks went CC before gas to capitalize on the fact that he wouldn't be aggressed after the rax cancel, so they're pretty even.
Barracks should be well ahead in econ if it was 8 Rax. The slightly faster CC for Ruby doesn't make up for the early SCV cutting involved when proxy 8 raxing, does it?
it doesn't, and there's also the money lost because the barrack was canceled.
edit : doesnt really matter as long as KT keeps sending appetizers.
I guess the coach made a side bet on how many wins/ all-kills Flash can perform this round but he doesn't wanna send Flash first everygame, so he sends a scrubs then Flash all-kills.
On January 10 2011 18:22 oBlade wrote: It was an 8rax. Luckily Barracks went CC before gas to capitalize on the fact that he wouldn't be aggressed after the rax cancel, so they're pretty even.
Barracks should be well ahead in econ if it was 8 Rax. The slightly faster CC for Ruby doesn't make up for the early SCV cutting involved when proxy 8 raxing, does it?
it doesn't, and there's also the money lost because the barrack was canceled.
In the end, ruby got his expo earlier and his rax later, which helped him out.
On January 10 2011 18:22 oBlade wrote: It was an 8rax. Luckily Barracks went CC before gas to capitalize on the fact that he wouldn't be aggressed after the rax cancel, so they're pretty even.
Barracks should be well ahead in econ if it was 8 Rax. The slightly faster CC for Ruby doesn't make up for the early SCV cutting involved when proxy 8 raxing, does it?
it doesn't, and there's also the money lost because the barrack was canceled.
In the end, ruby got his expo earlier and his rax later, which helped him out.
He was damn lucky it was cross position. I believe if it was not, Barracks' marine could've gotten there in time to screw up the double CC.
On January 10 2011 18:22 oBlade wrote: It was an 8rax. Luckily Barracks went CC before gas to capitalize on the fact that he wouldn't be aggressed after the rax cancel, so they're pretty even.
Barracks should be well ahead in econ if it was 8 Rax. The slightly faster CC for Ruby doesn't make up for the early SCV cutting involved when proxy 8 raxing, does it?
it doesn't, and there's also the money lost because the barrack was canceled.
In the end, ruby got his expo earlier and his rax later, which helped him out.
He was damn lucky it was cross position. I believe if it was not, Barracks' marine could've gotten there in time to screw up the double CC.
On January 10 2011 18:22 oBlade wrote: It was an 8rax. Luckily Barracks went CC before gas to capitalize on the fact that he wouldn't be aggressed after the rax cancel, so they're pretty even.
Barracks should be well ahead in econ if it was 8 Rax. The slightly faster CC for Ruby doesn't make up for the early SCV cutting involved when proxy 8 raxing, does it?
SCVs in TvT aren't like drones in ZvZ. It's not a big deal either way; it's basically even.
If proxy 8 rax --> fast CC (if scouted) doesn't get behind standard play economically people would do it all the time.
On January 10 2011 18:22 oBlade wrote: It was an 8rax. Luckily Barracks went CC before gas to capitalize on the fact that he wouldn't be aggressed after the rax cancel, so they're pretty even.
Barracks should be well ahead in econ if it was 8 Rax. The slightly faster CC for Ruby doesn't make up for the early SCV cutting involved when proxy 8 raxing, does it?
SCVs in TvT aren't like drones in ZvZ. It's not a big deal either way; it's basically even.
If proxy 8 rax --> fast CC (if scouted) doesn't get behind standard play economically people would do it all the time.
I don't usually judge by the result, but he won the game, after all. Even if he didn't, did he look behind? He went vult/tank when Barracks went tank/gol. He got map control and an earlier third. He kept map control and killed his opponent.
Barracks didn't do a standard build like vult expo, as far as I can tell he adapted and realized he could do a gasless CC.
Honestly. TvTs can easily last an hour. Try to think outside of the first two minutes. Things like this don't snowball like you want. They fizzle out.
not very good play from ruby. his units were really running into each other up the narrow ramps, and keeping those sieged tanks in the way didn't help at all.
On January 10 2011 19:10 MisteR wrote: Peace is a zerg player previously from MBC. There he was mainly used as a zvz sniper, on ACE he is fielded against protoss.
On January 10 2011 19:10 MisteR wrote: Peace is a zerg player previously from MBC. There he was mainly used as a zvz sniper, on ACE he is fielded against protoss.
MBC zerg, RUN.
you guys should consider Peace seriously, he's very close to his Elo peak !
On January 10 2011 19:22 Savant wrote: Looks like we won't get to see Flash play today
it's only 2-1, why not?
Because KT won't bring out its heavy gun when it has a chance to give the others some screentime. On the bright side, Stats will AK, and if not we might get to see Reach or Yellow.
After Khan winning without Stork, KT winning without Flash Stats let Flash get some wins ! He said he wanted to get over 45 wins at the end of the winners league....
On January 10 2011 19:42 endy wrote: After Khan winning without Stork, KT winning without Flash Stats let Flash get some wins ! He said he wanted to get over 45 wins at the end of the winners league....
I need Stats points I have Jangbi and Really on my Anti haha Chintoss hell yeah. FBH/GoRush next ?
On January 10 2011 19:42 endy wrote: After Khan winning without Stork, KT winning without Flash Stats let Flash get some wins ! He said he wanted to get over 45 wins at the end of the winners league....
I need Stats points I have Jangbi and Really on my Anti haha Chintoss hell yeah. FBH/GoRush next ?
Heh, I have only Tempes with -2 but noone on my main team has brought me anything ;/
On January 10 2011 19:54 NicksonReyes wrote: Bad FPL day, Peace lost, Flash and Xellos didn't play and my team is ACE EDIT: Unless fbh reverse 3 kill, that would make my day.
Expecting anything from Peace and Xellos is very optimistic.
On January 10 2011 19:54 NicksonReyes wrote: Bad FPL day, Peace lost, Flash and Xellos didn't play and my team is ACE EDIT: Unless fbh reverse 3 kill, that would make my day.
Expecting anything from Peace and Xellos is very optimistic.
FPL = the unexpected happens. EDIT: It is so funny right now that it is not funny anymore. I miss Flash 4-0s, better than 4-3s
On January 10 2011 19:54 NicksonReyes wrote: Bad FPL day, Peace lost, Flash and Xellos didn't play and my team is ACE EDIT: Unless fbh reverse 3 kill, that would make my day.
Expecting anything from Peace and Xellos is very optimistic.
On January 10 2011 19:54 NicksonReyes wrote: Bad FPL day, Peace lost, Flash and Xellos didn't play and my team is ACE EDIT: Unless fbh reverse 3 kill, that would make my day.
Expecting anything from Peace and Xellos is very optimistic.
FPL = the unexpected happens.
The only thing you can expect is that Roro is gonna destroy your anti-team even if he's always struggling to maintain a 50% win rate.
On January 10 2011 19:54 NicksonReyes wrote: Bad FPL day, Peace lost, Flash and Xellos didn't play and my team is ACE EDIT: Unless fbh reverse 3 kill, that would make my day.
Expecting anything from Peace and Xellos is very optimistic.
FPL = the unexpected happens.
The only thing you can expect is that Roro is gonna destroy your anti-team even if he's always struggling to maintain a 50% win rate.
I had him last Winners League on my anti and even though he was worth 6 points, he only scored 4.18. So no, he definitely did not destroy my anti-team.
fbh has the worst micro vs carriers i've seen in a while dozen goliath moving while not firing a single shot !! stop trying to take the carriers and shoot at the interceptors since he has no monning bases u'll make him waste his money
Up to the point where the goliath vs carrier micro started that was some of the most solid TvP games I've seen in a really long time that didn't include Flash. Too bad.
Good job Stats, first AK of the season! Stats+Flash makes KT a deadly team again! :D
On January 10 2011 20:24 Holgerius wrote: Up to the point where the goliath vs carrier micro started that was some of the most solid TvP games I've seen in a really long time that didn't include Flash. Too bad.
Good job Stats, first AK of the season! Stats+Flash makes KT a deadly team again! :D
On January 10 2011 20:36 Holgerius wrote: I'm seriously so sad about that game. FBH played in such an impressive way and then just threw everything away. >_<
I know the feeling. I had it when Bisu lost to Flash!
Ohh and got damit Stats! why all kill? Now Flash could not get any points for my Fantasy team :-(
On January 10 2011 21:51 Heimatloser wrote: oh flash, there goes your plan to get 46 wins... 16 matches left only
I think he'll soon settle with something along the line of 'Though I can't reach that number I'm more happy that my team has learned to perform better'
On January 10 2011 21:51 Heimatloser wrote: oh flash, there goes your plan to get 46 wins... 16 matches left only
I think he'll soon settle with something along the line of 'Though I can't reach that number I'm more happy that my team has learned to perform better'
Thats what its all about though. If KT steps up (and I don't mean only Stats) such that Flash doesn't have to carry them thats more meaningful I really hope it happens too, after the first 2 rounds.
On January 10 2011 21:51 Heimatloser wrote: oh flash, there goes your plan to get 46 wins... 16 matches left only
I think he'll soon settle with something along the line of 'Though I can't reach that number I'm more happy that my team has learned to perform better'
Stats was always the 2nd best and most consistent player on KT now if we saw Action or Violet get a AK.... (or KONG)