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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
December 30 2010 02:53 GMT
#141
Wow 7 pages of pre hype for the group of death
I'm gonna watch this from office today, I won't miss this !
ॐ
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
December 30 2010 02:56 GMT
#142
On December 30 2010 11:49 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2010 11:36 Spica wrote:
On December 30 2010 09:30 chang23 wrote:
It says 18:30 here but 19:30 in MBCgame website. Is there anything wrong?
Oh snap really? Dang, that's so late for me... Hopefully I can wake up in time for this. >.<;;

Although I do support all Protoss players out there, there's only one Toss that I don't support as much as the others, and that's Kal... I mean, I have no personal grudge against him or anything; the guy just gives me weird vibes for some reason. Srsly, I get REALLY creepy vibes from him, and I don't know why.

Other than that, go Bisu and Really! I really don't want to think about another potential knockout for the Beesuit. ><;;;

Pretty sure it's at 18:30, don't miss that first hour.

The reason I don't really like Kal is because he's always such a disappointment to me. I always see him do something cool and hope that he'll do something really impressive, yet in the end he always falls just short of it. I got quite annoyed of that. The game that really pissed me off that Kal played was his series vs Effort where he got 3-0'd when I was sure he'd make the finals.
Ah okay then; it's better to wake up early and mope around for a bit over waking up late and raging at yourself for oversleeping again. ><;;

Kal's habit of choking is indeed annoying at times, but he does have some impressive plays sometimes as well. It's not that I hate his gameplay, but I just can't really like him for some inexplicable reason... So to avoid misinterpretation, it's not that I hate Kal's gameplay or as a person, it's just that he doesn't really do anything to make me particularly like him. I don't know. Kal's just Kal. ><
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-30 03:02:33
December 30 2010 02:57 GMT
#143
On December 30 2010 11:46 kamikami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2010 11:28 mustaju wrote:
On December 30 2010 11:07 Ecrilon wrote:
On December 30 2010 06:24 mustaju wrote:
On December 30 2010 05:41 Gescom wrote:
On December 30 2010 04:52 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Kal/Shine for this group, Bisu can go back to offline qualifiers where he belongs.

Why so BM?

How is that BM at all? Compare it to the banter of the Bisu > Shine crowd here, and I think this is a calm statement.

This seems inaccurate. I see a lot of Bisu>Shine banter of the form that rags on Shine's playstyle, which, while effective, understandably irritates a lot of people. I don't see anyone, other than one comment that tells us that Shine belongs in the trash (page 5) that claims that Shine has no place in a Starleague.

Loudly questioning skill in Starleagues is BM now, especially from fanboys? Bisu has been dropping out for a long while now, and thus the statement " he belongs elsewhere" is definitely acceptable, IMO. That argument gets used a lot for other players too, and is a hundred times better than comments which have been appearing on Team Liquid whenever Shine manages to upset Bisu/anyone else.

I do admit, this thread is pretty immaculate, compared to what I'm expecting to see if Bisu loses again for some reason, but by here, I meant Team Liquid in general. I somewhat hope the banwaves have taught a lesson, but I'm not too hopeful.


I think a "Why so BM?" response is 1000 times better than a "Kal sucks he got raped by Modesty and Firebathero while Bisu beat Sea and Jaedong so he should just go back to be the punching bag of Jaedong that he is."

Seriously, if you don't want the flame war among fanboys to happen, don't start it in the first place. Look at Bisu's and Stork's fans, we are respectful towards each other, so why can't you Kal's fans do the same ? Did you see any Bisu fans BM towards Kal in this thread ? Some of us even support him since he's also a Protoss, so stop being jealous just because many people support Bisu.


I didn't say what Gescom said was unacceptable, I questioned the validity of the accusation of BM. The question here isn't Kal fans BM-ing Bisu, it's people questioning Bisu's place in an MSL ro16. While you might not agree with his opinion (I'd say he does deserve to advance from the qualifiers, I just don't want him to), I think an accusation of BM is out of place.

If that counts as starting a flamewar, I'm really afraid of becoming a fan who gets offended by such a statement. Cheep's comment is way too overdebated already, let's move on.

EDIT: added names to avoid confusion.
EDIT 2: This is not the OSL, it's MSL. Don't know why I wrote it wrong.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
December 30 2010 03:00 GMT
#144
Unfortunately for our friendly neighborhood Cheep, even if Bisu loses this group, he doesn't go into offline qualifiers, he goes into MST.
Not that he will of course.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Adr4melecH
Profile Joined March 2010
Thailand667 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-30 03:02:56
December 30 2010 03:02 GMT
#145
Quoting (P)Bisu from MSL Group Selection Ceremony

(P)Bisu: "I made him his nickname, and I'll be the one who makes everyone forget about his nickname."


Finally the time has come!

HYPEHYPEHYPE

KTY fightiing!

Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3509 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-30 03:06:22
December 30 2010 03:03 GMT
#146
On December 30 2010 11:28 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2010 11:07 Ecrilon wrote:
On December 30 2010 06:24 mustaju wrote:
On December 30 2010 05:41 Gescom wrote:
On December 30 2010 04:52 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Kal/Shine for this group, Bisu can go back to offline qualifiers where he belongs.

Why so BM?

How is that BM at all? Compare it to the banter of the Bisu > Shine crowd here, and I think this is a calm statement.

This seems inaccurate. I see a lot of Bisu>Shine banter of the form that rags on Shine's playstyle, which, while effective, understandably irritates a lot of people. I don't see anyone, other than one comment that tells us that Shine belongs in the trash (page 5) that claims that Shine has no place in a Starleague.

Loudly questioning skill in Starleagues is BM now, especially from fanboys? Bisu has been dropping out for a long while now, and thus the statement " he belongs elsewhere" is definitely acceptable, IMO. That argument gets used a lot for other players too, and is a hundred times better than comments which have been appearing on Team Liquid whenever Shine manages to upset Bisu/anyone else.

I do admit, this thread is pretty immaculate, compared to what I'm expecting to see if Bisu loses again for some reason, but by here, I meant Team Liquid in general. I somewhat hope the banwaves have taught a lesson, but I'm not too hopeful.

I hope that, if Bisu were to lose to Shine, that people will be more respectful towards him.. especially following a 14 game win streak! ^^

That being said, it just seems crazy to even try and take a stab at Bisu. Yes, he has had bad starleague performance as of recent, but he's already got 3 titles under his belt, best ranked player in proleague for 2 years in a row now and is 3rd in ELO. Why even both saying he "belongs" in prelims. Michael Schumacher just finished a full season without finishing once on the podium. No one in their right mind would say, oh he "belongs" in 12th place. The same goes for any other marquee athlete in whatever sport you'd like (Gretzky on the rangers, Jordan on the wizards, anything).

What surprises me though is that people never, ever take shots at the old greats. July was a lot like Bisu with regards to his surge of dominance and then fading out for a long time after that. Would someone ever "loudly question" Reach? Maybe people just have overwhelming nostalgia or something... but there's no really no bad words for any of the S class players. That's why they're S class.

edit -- typed this up before seeing mustaju's latest post. I just think people should be more respectful of the players, especially the top level players who keep BW as amazing as it is! ^^
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
December 30 2010 03:05 GMT
#147
HYPE HYPE HYPE
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
December 30 2010 03:07 GMT
#148
On December 30 2010 12:03 Gescom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2010 11:28 mustaju wrote:
On December 30 2010 11:07 Ecrilon wrote:
On December 30 2010 06:24 mustaju wrote:
On December 30 2010 05:41 Gescom wrote:
On December 30 2010 04:52 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Kal/Shine for this group, Bisu can go back to offline qualifiers where he belongs.

Why so BM?

How is that BM at all? Compare it to the banter of the Bisu > Shine crowd here, and I think this is a calm statement.

This seems inaccurate. I see a lot of Bisu>Shine banter of the form that rags on Shine's playstyle, which, while effective, understandably irritates a lot of people. I don't see anyone, other than one comment that tells us that Shine belongs in the trash (page 5) that claims that Shine has no place in a Starleague.

Loudly questioning skill in Starleagues is BM now, especially from fanboys? Bisu has been dropping out for a long while now, and thus the statement " he belongs elsewhere" is definitely acceptable, IMO. That argument gets used a lot for other players too, and is a hundred times better than comments which have been appearing on Team Liquid whenever Shine manages to upset Bisu/anyone else.

I do admit, this thread is pretty immaculate, compared to what I'm expecting to see if Bisu loses again for some reason, but by here, I meant Team Liquid in general. I somewhat hope the banwaves have taught a lesson, but I'm not too hopeful.

I hope that, if Bisu were to lose to Shine, that people will be more respectful towards him.. especially following a 14 game win streak! ^^

That being said, it just seems crazy to even try and take a stab at Bisu. Yes, he has had bad starleague performance as of recent, but he's already got 3 titles under his belt, best ranked player in proleague for 2 years in a row now and is 3rd in ELO. Why even both saying he "belongs" in prelims. Michael Schumacher just finished a full season without finishing once on the podium. No one in their right mind would say, oh he "belongs" in 12th place. The same goes for any other marquee athlete in whatever sport you'd like (Gretzky on the rangers, Jordan on the wizards, anything).

What surprises me though is that people never, ever take shots at the old greats. July was a lot like Bisu with regards to his surge of dominance and then fading out for a long time after that. Would someone ever "loudly question" Reach? Maybe people just have overwhelming nostalgia or something... but there's no really no bad words for any of the S class players. That's why they're S class.

edit -- typed this up before seeing mustaju's latest post. I just think people should be more respectful of the players, especially the top level players who keep BW as amazing as it is! ^^

Thanks! Whatever the result may be, let's be respectful towards one another.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
December 30 2010 03:09 GMT
#149
SHINE SHINING!
HOLY CHECK!
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
December 30 2010 03:42 GMT
#150
8 pages and the games don't even begin until 6 hours from now. I'd expect this for a final or something, but for a Ro32 match.... incredible.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
December 30 2010 03:48 GMT
#151
On December 30 2010 12:42 Mortality wrote:
8 pages and the games don't even begin until 6 hours from now. I'd expect this for a final or something, but for a Ro32 match.... incredible.

yo for a final you should expect at least 20-50 pages before the games even start LOL
Writerptrk
vishrut
Profile Joined April 2009
United States567 Posts
December 30 2010 03:51 GMT
#152
i think most people who dislike kal do it because he is a choker. so there is no point cheering for someone who will never win. Whereas bisu, stork have a chance of actually accomplishing something
iNversion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States107 Posts
December 30 2010 03:59 GMT
#153
On December 30 2010 11:49 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2010 11:36 Spica wrote:
On December 30 2010 09:30 chang23 wrote:
It says 18:30 here but 19:30 in MBCgame website. Is there anything wrong?
Oh snap really? Dang, that's so late for me... Hopefully I can wake up in time for this. >.<;;

Although I do support all Protoss players out there, there's only one Toss that I don't support as much as the others, and that's Kal... I mean, I have no personal grudge against him or anything; the guy just gives me weird vibes for some reason. Srsly, I get REALLY creepy vibes from him, and I don't know why.

Other than that, go Bisu and Really! I really don't want to think about another potential knockout for the Beesuit. ><;;;

Pretty sure it's at 18:30, don't miss that first hour.

The reason I don't really like Kal is because he's always such a disappointment to me. I always see him do something cool and hope that he'll do something really impressive, yet in the end he always falls just short of it. I got quite annoyed of that. The game that really pissed me off that Kal played was his series vs Effort where he got 3-0'd when I was sure he'd make the finals.

gahh fantasy does that to me all the time, especially recently but I'm still a fan lol

OT: i don't find anything wrong with kal and don't really care for (T)Really (lol), so go bisu kal!
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
December 30 2010 03:59 GMT
#154
Cant wait for this epic match!

Very nice op.

I hope Bisu adv but if Shine beats him he deserves it as well. But then Kal.. so torn with this group
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
December 30 2010 04:15 GMT
#155
Hehe gonna try to wake up to watch this ><
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
December 30 2010 04:22 GMT
#156
Heaven let your (T)Light (Z)Shine down...
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-30 04:30:49
December 30 2010 04:30 GMT
#157
On December 30 2010 11:49 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2010 11:36 Spica wrote:
On December 30 2010 09:30 chang23 wrote:
It says 18:30 here but 19:30 in MBCgame website. Is there anything wrong?
Oh snap really? Dang, that's so late for me... Hopefully I can wake up in time for this. >.<;;

Although I do support all Protoss players out there, there's only one Toss that I don't support as much as the others, and that's Kal... I mean, I have no personal grudge against him or anything; the guy just gives me weird vibes for some reason. Srsly, I get REALLY creepy vibes from him, and I don't know why.

Other than that, go Bisu and Really! I really don't want to think about another potential knockout for the Beesuit. ><;;;

Pretty sure it's at 18:30, don't miss that first hour.

The reason I don't really like Kal is because he's always such a disappointment to me. I always see him do something cool and hope that he'll do something really impressive, yet in the end he always falls just short of it. I got quite annoyed of that. The game that really pissed me off that Kal played was his series vs Effort where he got 3-0'd when I was sure he'd make the finals.


While Kal wasn't really playing up to what his maximum potential that series I don't think you should discount Effort, after all he did end up beating Flash for the title. Deep in my heart I really hope that his recent performance indicates that he's getting over his performance issues and can take this OSL to the finals. Winning this group would do a lot for his confidence overall I think.
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
December 30 2010 05:09 GMT
#158
really contemplating whether i should watch this live..

It'll be interesting seeing as Bisu is stuck against both Shine and Kal. if Bisu gets past this group, I think he'll be one of the favourites to at least reach the finals.
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 30 2010 05:21 GMT
#159
This will be the first time I have actually stayed up for some games in a while. Totally pumped for this group!

As a stars fan I would really like to see really (oh man im so funny) advance; but as a Protoss I'm a fan of Kal and definitely of Bisu. I'm no shine anti-fan but I like all three better so I'm hoping that Bisu and either really or Kal can make it through.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
December 30 2010 05:51 GMT
#160
Shine's ZvP is for real. This is not going to be a push-over. Bisu will need to bring his A-game today
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
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