EPT[MSL] Ro32 Group H - Page 9
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
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baubo
China3370 Posts
Bisu - I like him a lot. Don't care for his fans, but do wish he advances(2nd, preferably so he doesn't play Stork next round). He's probably the best bet to win a Bo5 against Jaedong, and arguably the best hope for protoss to win the MSL Kal - Don't care for him. He's very meh as a player. Less so than Free or Best, who to me are just standard players who are really really good. Kal is a player that when I watch I feel "this guy's really good". But not "this guy's AMAZING" the way I feel about Stork/Bisu when they're on. Just doesn't really do it for me. Shine - His ZvP is the abusive kind, but not the fun kind. He's like a more advanced version of Luxury in that he knows how to abuse the matchup advantage but not much else. When I watch him win I find that my first reaction is "WTF is the other guy doing" and not how well Shine played. Still, I can't argue with results. But I don't want to see him in a Bo5 against anyone. Really - I do want him to win if only to get some more terrans in after Leta/Fantasy fail. He's so inconsistent I really don't know what to think of him. But since I really liked estro and the stars, I'll root for him here. Hoping for Really 2-0, Bisu 2-1. Predicting Kal 2-0, Bisu 2-1. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13912 Posts
lots of power in one group, should be a lot of fun. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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shucklesors
Singapore1176 Posts
On December 30 2010 14:51 Emon_ wrote: Shine's ZvP is for real. This is not going to be a push-over. Bisu will need to bring his A-game today Oh OK. Did you know what Bisu did on the 28th during OZ vs SKT? Yea, THAT guy doesn't have 'real' ZvP, right. Bisu ain't gonna needa bring shit to hand Shine's ass to himself, other than building more than 2 cannons at nat after seeing the bust that's for sure going to come because Shine's lategame ZvP doesn't beat BackHo's 35% PvZ. | ||
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PineappleLumpsToss
New Zealand2434 Posts
I think it's a shame to see one of the likes of Shine, Kal or Bisu exiting at this stage, but it makes for one hell of an interesting group. As a Toss fan I think it's easy to dislike Shine b/c of his PvZ. As others have said, it appears to be abusive at times, and you're wondering what the Toss player is doing, but honestly I think that's belittling the guy's skills. Ignoring all the 10 min Shine jokes, the fact of the matter is the guy has great game sense and knows exactly when to exploit a weakness in the Toss defences. My natural reaction was to be a Shine hater, but after watching his games critically I have grown to respect him. Bisu has to man up and lift his game to prove to his fans he's worthy of another MSL title. The ball's in his court, and if he fails to cover his main, or goes for an all-in Goon like in the OSL, then he really has no excuses - that sort of performance is just not worthy of a would-be 2010-11 MSL champ. | ||
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imperfect
Canada1652 Posts
On December 30 2010 16:06 shucklesors wrote: Oh OK. Did you know what Bisu did on the 28th during OZ vs SKT? Yea, THAT guy doesn't have 'real' ZvP, right. Bisu ain't gonna needa bring shit to hand Shine's ass to himself, other than building more than 2 cannons at nat after seeing the bust that's for sure going to come because Shine's lategame ZvP doesn't beat BackHo's 35% PvZ. Shine is legit whether you like it or not. | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
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PineappleLumpsToss
New Zealand2434 Posts
On December 30 2010 16:21 Lightwip wrote: Please make it out of this group Bisu, it's really been making me worried for way too long. I've had a bad feeling about it since the draw was made. Today's been rough though - can't shake that feeling that Shine's in Bisu's head, no matter how confident he appears to be. | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On December 30 2010 16:20 imperfect wrote: Shine is legit whether you like it or not. Shine is good. But overrated. It's no coincidence that he was voted the second most overrated player in this MSL by the other players. + Show Spoiler + Perfectman was voted the most overrated. | ||
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Emon_
3925 Posts
On December 30 2010 16:06 shucklesors wrote: Oh OK. Did you know what Bisu did on the 28th during OZ vs SKT? Yea, THAT guy doesn't have 'real' ZvP, right. Bisu ain't gonna needa bring shit to hand Shine's ass to himself, other than building more than 2 cannons at nat after seeing the bust that's for sure going to come because Shine's lategame ZvP doesn't beat BackHo's 35% PvZ. Bisu is still 3-5 vs. Shine. Watch Shine vs. Stork in the OSL tiebreakers. Eventhough Stork had the advantage Shine was still fighting like a boss until the very end. | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Pity that there's no other zerg(s) in the group, as Shine's ZvZ feels really monstrous. Though, I think he should 2hatch muta from 12pool/overpool and try to play Really ZvZ style, if he happens to go vs Really. vs Kal he surely can win (as I remember he is 4-0 vs Kal?). But they might not meet. I think that he might meet Really in losers I doubt that Bisu will win vs Kal. X_x That guy is just too good when it really matters. IMHO his real strength is his self confidence. He really looks like a rock. ^_^ SO imho: Bisu>Shine Kal>Really Shine>Really Bisu<Kal Bisu<Shine X_X hope that works ^_^ OH LOL WTF. Just noticed - loser/winner map is Dante's Peak where Zerg vs Nonzerg = 5:0 :D Final map is Triathlon where Zerg can take like 4 bases for free. So I think that my predictions might not be "random" but actually work kkkkk.  | ||
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topherthetoad
China130 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
On December 30 2010 16:46 topherthetoad wrote: So much hype!!! I'm really looking forward to some epic PvZ tonight. Hoping to see Bisu go Reaver+Corsair and show P's how its done. Bisu fighting!! It's usually done like Tempest vs Hyun game happened to be.  | ||
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Gescom
Canada3312 Posts
On December 30 2010 16:46 topherthetoad wrote: So much hype!!! I'm really looking forward to some epic PvZ tonight. Hoping to see Bisu go Reaver+Corsair and show P's how its done. Bisu fighting!! Assuming Shine is going to mass hydra like he has been vs Bisu... I hope to god we don't see any corsairs. =P | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On December 30 2010 17:01 Gescom wrote: Assuming Shine is going to mass hydra like he has been vs Bisu... I hope to god we don't see any corsairs. =P Sairs can scout the hydras. He still needs like 2 for that. | ||
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splints
Canada85 Posts
On December 30 2010 16:03 Grobyc wrote: Nice OP, I should be around to stream this. Sweet, always appreciate your streams man | ||
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
quite the hype | ||
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
Poor Bisu  | ||
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