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On December 18 2010 14:45 okum wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 14:39 Zona wrote:On December 18 2010 14:37 Holgerius wrote:Ugh, PvP. Don't like, don't want. PvP is amazing - what's there not to like? PvP is the matchup with the lowest highs and highest lows. No damn way - when both players play aggressively, PvP is THE BEST matchup...
ZvZ has the lowest highs...one in awhile you get an exciting hivetech game, but a lot of the excitement comes from how rare such games are
Although if you love watching players micro (which I do) ZvZ's come with their own brand of enjoyment
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Do you guys think stx can pull this off?
Every time I watch or keep track of the lr thread, I go 1-1 or 0-2, but whenever I vote and forget and check back a week later, I get massive voting steaks...
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On December 18 2010 14:51 Lightwip wrote:
By the way mustaju, now you know what I feel like when Bisu goes 3 gate. I'd much rather not.  Though I have no idea whether Kal would have won against Horang2 straightup in this MU. Would have been fun to watch, though.
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Argh ... ! The whole time I had the colours wrong and thought Horang2 is losing ... Just as he walked into Kal´s main I realised that I can be happy instead of crying, yay !!
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sigh -- ten point swing for my FPL on that game with kal on my main and horang2 on my anti. oh well.
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On December 18 2010 14:53 Z3kk wrote: Do you guys think stx can pull this off?
Every time I watch or keep track of the lr thread, I go 1-1 or 0-2, but whenever I vote and forget and check back a week later, I get massive voting steaks... Have faith. I do.
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On December 18 2010 14:52 Musoeun wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 14:49 night terrors wrote: I guess fpl gods dont favour me...
Kal and Skyhigh should be completely capable of beating the oponents they got today and instead we get... this. Have you watched, like, any of sKyHigh's games recently? He's been bad. Bogus has been good. For Kal, while he's very good, losing a PvP to Horang2 is hardly unexpected, for anyone.
Im saying its well within their capacity to win
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Kal is ridiculous. He wins the matches that he should not win and loses the matches that he should not lose. STX better win the next 3 matches.
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On December 18 2010 14:51 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 14:47 Holgerius wrote:On December 18 2010 14:45 okum wrote:On December 18 2010 14:39 Zona wrote:On December 18 2010 14:37 Holgerius wrote:Ugh, PvP. Don't like, don't want. PvP is amazing - what's there not to like? PvP is the matchup with the lowest highs and highest lows. Hmm, interesting way to put it. I think I agree with that. PvP can be amazing at times too. It isn't usually awful though. By the way mustaju, now you know what I feel like when Bisu goes 3 gate. Not as amazing as other MU's IMO. All non-mirrors obviously have more potential due to their nature, TvT's can be ridiculously epic, and hive tech ZvZs makes me go O_O. PvP though, I can't think of many games that I would rape among the best and most interesting I've seen. Similarly, I can't think of many PvP's I would rate among the worst I've ever seen.
I just find it plain uninteresting for some reason.
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shuttle vs BByong
gogogo bbyong!
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On December 18 2010 14:57 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 14:51 Lightwip wrote:On December 18 2010 14:47 Holgerius wrote:On December 18 2010 14:45 okum wrote:On December 18 2010 14:39 Zona wrote:On December 18 2010 14:37 Holgerius wrote:Ugh, PvP. Don't like, don't want. PvP is amazing - what's there not to like? PvP is the matchup with the lowest highs and highest lows. Hmm, interesting way to put it. I think I agree with that. PvP can be amazing at times too. It isn't usually awful though. By the way mustaju, now you know what I feel like when Bisu goes 3 gate. Not as amazing as other MU's IMO. All non-mirrors obviously have more potential due to their nature, TvT's can be ridiculously epic, and hive tech ZvZs makes me go O_O. PvP though, I can't think of many games that I would rape among the best and most interesting I've seen. Similarly, I can't think of many PvP's I would rate among the worst I've ever seen. I just find it plain uninteresting for some reason. Bisu vs Stork on Loki Bisu vs Pure on Polaris Rhapsody Sun vs Shuttle Best vs Free are a few examples of what I thought of as really good PvP games. I honestly have more trouble finding good TvT games(although they do exist), and the only ZvZ games that I find legitimately good for anything other than the novelty of hive are Zero vs great and soulkey vs great.
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I hear game two was totally Bogus
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WAI why not calm I need calm to win for my FPL T_T;;
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On December 18 2010 14:55 kamikami wrote: Kal is ridiculous. He wins the matches that he should not win and loses the matches that he should not lose. Actually that's a pretty good way of putting things
The one time I'm cheering for STX they're losing...
Factory starts, one scv on gas
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2 scvs placed back on gas before CC built...changed his mind?
core starts spinning for shuttle
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On December 18 2010 15:02 OpticalShot wrote: WAI why not calm I need calm to win for my FPL T_T;; He's probably playing on Benzene. He is often played there.
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On December 18 2010 14:57 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 14:51 Lightwip wrote:On December 18 2010 14:47 Holgerius wrote:On December 18 2010 14:45 okum wrote:On December 18 2010 14:39 Zona wrote:On December 18 2010 14:37 Holgerius wrote:Ugh, PvP. Don't like, don't want. PvP is amazing - what's there not to like? PvP is the matchup with the lowest highs and highest lows. Hmm, interesting way to put it. I think I agree with that. PvP can be amazing at times too. It isn't usually awful though. By the way mustaju, now you know what I feel like when Bisu goes 3 gate. Not as amazing as other MU's IMO. All non-mirrors obviously have more potential due to their nature, TvT's can be ridiculously epic, and hive tech ZvZs makes me go O_O. PvP though, I can't think of many games that I would rape among the best and most interesting I've seen. Similarly, I can't think of many PvP's I would rate among the worst I've ever seen. I just find it plain uninteresting for some reason. imo it's because there just isn't as much variety in what can happen i don't know how to explain what i mean properly, but it's like, you have a smallish number of builds (allins, dts, observers, reavers) that do not allow for much variation within the builds themselves. if there's some huge tech or unit advantage then there's a battle and one player probably wins. if there isn't they both chill on 2 bases until one player somehow wins. it's like... engagements are very rare and when they do happen they tend to be decisive.
the best pvps are the ones where players expand past 2bases and you actually see action on multiple fronts
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On December 18 2010 14:55 night terrors wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 14:52 Musoeun wrote:On December 18 2010 14:49 night terrors wrote: I guess fpl gods dont favour me...
Kal and Skyhigh should be completely capable of beating the oponents they got today and instead we get... this. Have you watched, like, any of sKyHigh's games recently? He's been bad. Bogus has been good. For Kal, while he's very good, losing a PvP to Horang2 is hardly unexpected, for anyone. Im saying its well within their capacity to win
Sure. And Jangbi has the capacity to be 10-2 instead of 2-10. But it's not happening right now.
(And I'd still argue about Kal vs Horang2: assuming both players played about their normal, I think Horang2 wins that one at least 7/10.)
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machine shop starts immediately after the factory finishes
rax lifted, scv sent out
shuttle takes his nat
weird - no tech nor expo from bbyong ah, there's a cc in his main now very late for something that was 1 fact cc
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