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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
December 18 2010 05:53 GMT
#321
On December 18 2010 14:45 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 14:39 Zona wrote:
On December 18 2010 14:37 Holgerius wrote:
Ugh, PvP. Don't like, don't want.

PvP is amazing - what's there not to like?

PvP is the matchup with the lowest highs and highest lows.

No damn way - when both players play aggressively, PvP is THE BEST matchup...

ZvZ has the lowest highs...one in awhile you get an exciting hivetech game, but a lot of the excitement comes from how rare such games are

Although if you love watching players micro (which I do) ZvZ's come with their own brand of enjoyment
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
December 18 2010 05:53 GMT
#322
Do you guys think stx can pull this off?

Every time I watch or keep track of the lr thread, I go 1-1 or 0-2, but whenever I vote and forget and check back a week later, I get massive voting steaks...
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4505 Posts
December 18 2010 05:53 GMT
#323
On December 18 2010 14:51 Lightwip wrote:

By the way mustaju, now you know what I feel like when Bisu goes 3 gate.

I'd much rather not.
Though I have no idea whether Kal would have won against Horang2 straightup in this MU. Would have been fun to watch, though.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
LichtgestaltSC
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany166 Posts
December 18 2010 05:53 GMT
#324
Argh ... ! The whole time I had the colours wrong and thought Horang2 is losing ...
Just as he walked into Kal´s main I realised that I can be happy instead of crying, yay !!
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3161 Posts
December 18 2010 05:54 GMT
#325
sigh -- ten point swing for my FPL on that game with kal on my main and horang2 on my anti. oh well.
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4505 Posts
December 18 2010 05:54 GMT
#326
On December 18 2010 14:53 Z3kk wrote:
Do you guys think stx can pull this off?

Every time I watch or keep track of the lr thread, I go 1-1 or 0-2, but whenever I vote and forget and check back a week later, I get massive voting steaks...

Have faith. I do.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
night terrors
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China1284 Posts
December 18 2010 05:55 GMT
#327
On December 18 2010 14:52 Musoeun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 14:49 night terrors wrote:
I guess fpl gods dont favour me...

Kal and Skyhigh should be completely capable of beating the oponents they got today and instead we get... this.


Have you watched, like, any of sKyHigh's games recently? He's been bad. Bogus has been good.

For Kal, while he's very good, losing a PvP to Horang2 is hardly unexpected, for anyone.


Im saying its well within their capacity to win
Through high and low, bisu boy, through high and low.
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
December 18 2010 05:55 GMT
#328
Kal is ridiculous.
He wins the matches that he should not win and loses the matches that he should not lose.
STX better win the next 3 matches.
Khassar de Templari
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 05:56:49
December 18 2010 05:56 GMT
#329
wrong thread sorry lol
[TLMS] REBOOT
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 18 2010 05:57 GMT
#330
On December 18 2010 14:51 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 14:47 Holgerius wrote:
On December 18 2010 14:45 okum wrote:
On December 18 2010 14:39 Zona wrote:
On December 18 2010 14:37 Holgerius wrote:
Ugh, PvP. Don't like, don't want.

PvP is amazing - what's there not to like?

PvP is the matchup with the lowest highs and highest lows.

Hmm, interesting way to put it. I think I agree with that.

PvP can be amazing at times too. It isn't usually awful though.

By the way mustaju, now you know what I feel like when Bisu goes 3 gate.

Not as amazing as other MU's IMO. All non-mirrors obviously have more potential due to their nature, TvT's can be ridiculously epic, and hive tech ZvZs makes me go O_O. PvP though, I can't think of many games that I would rape among the best and most interesting I've seen. Similarly, I can't think of many PvP's I would rate among the worst I've ever seen.

I just find it plain uninteresting for some reason.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 06:00:39
December 18 2010 06:00 GMT
#331
shuttle vs BByong

gogogo bbyong!
BW is back
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
December 18 2010 06:00 GMT
#332
On December 18 2010 14:57 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 14:51 Lightwip wrote:
On December 18 2010 14:47 Holgerius wrote:
On December 18 2010 14:45 okum wrote:
On December 18 2010 14:39 Zona wrote:
On December 18 2010 14:37 Holgerius wrote:
Ugh, PvP. Don't like, don't want.

PvP is amazing - what's there not to like?

PvP is the matchup with the lowest highs and highest lows.

Hmm, interesting way to put it. I think I agree with that.

PvP can be amazing at times too. It isn't usually awful though.

By the way mustaju, now you know what I feel like when Bisu goes 3 gate.

Not as amazing as other MU's IMO. All non-mirrors obviously have more potential due to their nature, TvT's can be ridiculously epic, and hive tech ZvZs makes me go O_O. PvP though, I can't think of many games that I would rape among the best and most interesting I've seen. Similarly, I can't think of many PvP's I would rate among the worst I've ever seen.

I just find it plain uninteresting for some reason.

Bisu vs Stork on Loki
Bisu vs Pure on Polaris Rhapsody
Sun vs Shuttle
Best vs Free
are a few examples of what I thought of as really good PvP games. I honestly have more trouble finding good TvT games(although they do exist), and the only ZvZ games that I find legitimately good for anything other than the novelty of hive are Zero vs great and soulkey vs great.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51444 Posts
December 18 2010 06:02 GMT
#333
I hear game two was totally Bogus
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
December 18 2010 06:02 GMT
#334
WAI
why not calm
I need calm to win for my FPL T_T;;
[TLMS] REBOOT
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
December 18 2010 06:03 GMT
#335
On December 18 2010 14:55 kamikami wrote:
Kal is ridiculous.
He wins the matches that he should not win and loses the matches that he should not lose.

Actually that's a pretty good way of putting things

The one time I'm cheering for STX they're losing...

Factory starts, one scv on gas
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
December 18 2010 06:04 GMT
#336
2 scvs placed back on gas before CC built...changed his mind?

core starts spinning for shuttle
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4505 Posts
December 18 2010 06:04 GMT
#337
On December 18 2010 15:02 OpticalShot wrote:
WAI
why not calm
I need calm to win for my FPL T_T;;

He's probably playing on Benzene. He is often played there.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
December 18 2010 06:04 GMT
#338
On December 18 2010 14:57 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 14:51 Lightwip wrote:
On December 18 2010 14:47 Holgerius wrote:
On December 18 2010 14:45 okum wrote:
On December 18 2010 14:39 Zona wrote:
On December 18 2010 14:37 Holgerius wrote:
Ugh, PvP. Don't like, don't want.

PvP is amazing - what's there not to like?

PvP is the matchup with the lowest highs and highest lows.

Hmm, interesting way to put it. I think I agree with that.

PvP can be amazing at times too. It isn't usually awful though.

By the way mustaju, now you know what I feel like when Bisu goes 3 gate.

Not as amazing as other MU's IMO. All non-mirrors obviously have more potential due to their nature, TvT's can be ridiculously epic, and hive tech ZvZs makes me go O_O. PvP though, I can't think of many games that I would rape among the best and most interesting I've seen. Similarly, I can't think of many PvP's I would rate among the worst I've ever seen.

I just find it plain uninteresting for some reason.

imo it's because there just isn't as much variety in what can happen
i don't know how to explain what i mean properly, but it's like, you have a smallish number of builds (allins, dts, observers, reavers) that do not allow for much variation within the builds themselves. if there's some huge tech or unit advantage then there's a battle and one player probably wins. if there isn't they both chill on 2 bases until one player somehow wins. it's like... engagements are very rare and when they do happen they tend to be decisive.

the best pvps are the ones where players expand past 2bases and you actually see action on multiple fronts
brood war for life, brood war forever
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
December 18 2010 06:04 GMT
#339
On December 18 2010 14:55 night terrors wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 14:52 Musoeun wrote:
On December 18 2010 14:49 night terrors wrote:
I guess fpl gods dont favour me...

Kal and Skyhigh should be completely capable of beating the oponents they got today and instead we get... this.


Have you watched, like, any of sKyHigh's games recently? He's been bad. Bogus has been good.

For Kal, while he's very good, losing a PvP to Horang2 is hardly unexpected, for anyone.


Im saying its well within their capacity to win


Sure. And Jangbi has the capacity to be 10-2 instead of 2-10. But it's not happening right now.

(And I'd still argue about Kal vs Horang2: assuming both players played about their normal, I think Horang2 wins that one at least 7/10.)
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
December 18 2010 06:05 GMT
#340
machine shop starts immediately after the factory finishes

rax lifted, scv sent out

shuttle takes his nat

weird - no tech nor expo from bbyong
ah, there's a cc in his main now
very late for something that was 1 fact cc
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
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