good luck snow, even though it's his worst matchup he's been playing well recently. I guess great will win group H, and I have to root for cuteangel after he was the only one to show up for stx down the stretch last season
On November 17 2010 17:07 Roffles wrote: No worries. Movie is also bad. Frozean/Cuteangel/Whatever you wanna call him has been playing pretty solidly as of late.
Expect him to take it 2-1.
Movie only lost to strong PvP players such as Stork, Kal, and Tyson. Frozen doesn't have strong TvP, and he isn't a strong player overall. Movie should take it 2-0.
uhhh excuse me if i sound like an uninformed prick.
but what the hell CuteAngel? someone should ask frozean if he's aware that there are cameras in all the tournaments and that his identity is well known, so there's no point in pretending to be a 15 year old girl?! lol
On November 17 2010 20:07 Womwomwom wrote: Soulkey really likes three hatching, this time he's got one pretty far from his main down in the 8 o'clock location.
Second match on Gladiator Soulkey finds himself in red at 11 o clock, meanwhile Snow is white at 5 SK going 9 pool, Snow going Forge first FE
Snow putting down his Nexus and now a single cannon. Probe is running around SK's main with a zergling chasing it
Gateway goes down to complete the wall. Meanwhile SK takes his third. Nexus finishes for Snow.
SK teching to lair while Snow puts down his core and takes his nat gas
SK's lair finishes and he lays down a spire. Meanwhile Snow throws down two gates bringing it to a total of three. Forge is not spinning but his core is
On November 17 2010 20:11 JohnColtrane wrote: bent over
Basically god I wish SuperArc was still here to watch this game.
what happened to him? did he get banned again?
Yeah he got perm banned
Snow has like three dragoons sitting in his nat, all the while an overlord flies over the main. Obviously not a wise choice but the overlord is curious and dies for it
Small attack at SK's third with dragoons, SK defends with sunkens and lings. Snow trying once again microing them hard, zerglings surround the goons and wipe out a few. Only a small handful get out alive retreating back to the nat. Scourge fly over the nat and main to check out tech. Adun is finished and the Temp Archives has started. Still a lot of lings outside Snow's nat.
SK has a bunch of mutas now
Zerglings attack the nat, cannon goes down but there are quite a few goons there and not a lot of space to fight. Lings back off, mutas fly around the nat to attack some probes and the gas assim.
Mutas take out Snow's nat gas. Snow trying to find an answer, he moves his army of goons/lots/archons to the third where he's met by sunkens and mutas.
He changes directions as he takes his third. He's forced to cancel by lings. Hive tech now for SK SK going for a greater spire, he's also sunkening up pretty hard
mutas took out the assimilator at snow's nat - going to be hard for him to come up with good enough antiair on one gas - they snipe a shuttle too - soulkey is so great to watch
Snow going robo tech now. Mutas dancing around the protoss army. Snow has amassed quite the army but he can't seem to find a gap to exploit. Snow starting his third again, this time not allowing zerglings to deny. Zerglings return with mutas in another attempt to stop the third, but to no avail. Mutas once again hammering the nat gas, that goes down in no time.
Lone overlord gets sniped by single dragon. Mutas morphing into guards near Snow's nat now. Probes leg it out of there.
Snow trying to break the nat with archons, but god damn there are like over 10 sunkens, he fails miserably. Guards still hammering the nat.
Snow continues to send units to 11 trying to break in.
Storms destroy two guards, there's still one left near the nat. Meanwhile more guards have been morphed, they;re attacking the third along with some lings. Snow manages to hold onto his third with dragoons and archons. Shuttle drop at Sk's fourth at 8. SK has a lot of lings
GG as Snow doesn't know what to do
That was disappointing from Snow, SK go those wins a little too easily
by.Great > Paralyze. He has over 50% ZvP; Paralyze is a complete newb.
He may be a practice bonjwa that ends up winning the OSL having been unleashed on his unknowing victims prematurely by qualifying, which would be fucking awesome.
On November 17 2010 20:33 Holgerius wrote: Paralyze, huh? I have literally never seen him ever before. :O
I've seen him before but never knew who he was, even in that blog where someone on TL ran into SKT players in Japan and took a picture he was there I think
On November 17 2010 20:39 PineappleLumpsToss wrote: I'm actually interested to see how Paralyze plays. I've seen him so many times on the SKT bench as Chief Cheer Leader.
My God that hair is just too good to be true!
If he play ro36 and Best don't, it's mean Afrotoss pretty good player.
pfft judge him all you want, i think his hair is freaking cool, especially in a scene where everyone's hair is the exact same style. sick harass as well
On November 17 2010 20:33 Romantic wrote: by.Great > Paralyze. He has over 50% ZvP; Paralyze is a complete newb.
He may be a practice bonjwa that ends up winning the OSL having been unleashed on his unknowing victims prematurely by qualifying, which would be fucking awesome.
I would like to remind the crowd that i was the first to call Paralyze as the new OSL champion!
On November 17 2010 20:33 Romantic wrote: by.Great > Paralyze. He has over 50% ZvP; Paralyze is a complete newb.
He may be a practice bonjwa that ends up winning the OSL having been unleashed on his unknowing victims prematurely by qualifying, which would be fucking awesome.
I would like to remind the crowd that i was the first to call Paralyze as the new OSL champion!
I hope....
Would keep Broodwar alive in my heart.
He's going to lose in the semifinals against stork, who loses to bisu in the final : ) One can dream
Wowwww nice moving shot from Afrotoss to snag a few retreating Mutalisks! Maybe this is what they're talking about in interviews when everyone seems to be amazing in practice.
For anyone who saw Kal vs Zero in PL this week, + Show Spoiler +
this is exactly like what Kal was expecting from Zerg. Muta ling is very meta right now and the zealot pushes and archon sair defense is the meta counter to it. Kal never expected the hydra pump and was very very slightly (like 3 or 4 seconds) late with the reaver when the push came. I guess there was some issue about this in the LR thread for that PL match and this game illustrates it nicely.
On November 17 2010 21:15 iNoobSoWhat wrote: I wonder why this guy never play in proleague. May be he good only in PvZ?
That is not a good assumption. If he were good at PvZ he might be employed as a sniper. What is more likely is that he practiced really hard vZ for this...
On November 17 2010 21:15 iNoobSoWhat wrote: I wonder why this guy never play in proleague. May be he good only in PvZ?
Well, they have two great Protoss already and with Fanta/Kwanro he just doesnt get alot of chances I guess. He totally schooled Great though even on an unfavorable map, so they might give him a shot soon
On November 17 2010 21:13 Amnesia wrote: YES FROTOSS TO RO16666666666666666666
this is day 1 for this group, he'll have to play Leta to get into ro16
In day 2 you will see him transform into an incarnation of Best and rape Leta.
As I said before, he is the common lover of Bisu and Best. I have seem him giggle with Bisu many times and recently Best himself fix the pant for him in full television. OMG
And I failed to count how many times Kim Taek Yong was mentioned by commentators during this match lol.
Paralyze: "Hi, I am SKT's protoss, Jung Kyung Doo." "I have gotten a lot of firsts today. First cheerful, first appearance, first win..."
"and first PvZ win on pathfinder too!"
"BeSt lost against great in their previous encounter, did BeSt give you any good advice?" "They just told me to do well. They joking said I will lose in 2nd stage, but actually just gave me a lot of good advice."
"All we saw of you was doing hi-five during Proleague. Your afro hairstyle stood out a lot." "It helps me identify myself."
"Do you tie yourself to Bisu or BeSt more?" "Both."
"You have to face Leta next." "I have confidence in PvT but not that much in PvZ. But since I won my PvZ today, I will play normally in my next stage."
"This is your first cheerful, who made it?" "I think someone took this photo during the fanmeeting and made it for me."
"Any words?" "I will continue to do my best so I can get into the round of 16."
"You seem to have suddenly gained a lot of female fans!" "I think they're all Bisu fans."
I missed out a lot of stuff since I can't type that fast
On November 17 2010 21:27 konadora wrote: Paralyze: "Hi, I am SKT's protoss, Jung Kyung Doo." "I have gotten a lot of firsts today. First cheerful, first appearance, first win..."
"and first PvZ win on pathfinder too!"
"BeSt lost against great in their previous encounter, did BeSt give you any good advice?" "They just told me to do well. They joking said I will lose in 2nd stage, but actually just gave me a lot of good advice."
"All we saw of you was doing hi-five during Proleague. Your afro hairstyle stood out a lot." "It helps me identify myself."
"Do you tie yourself to Bisu or BeSt more?" "Both."
"You have to face Leta next." "I have confidence in PvT but not that much in PvZ. But since I won my PvZ today, I will play normally in my next stage."
"This is your first cheerful, who made it?" "I think someone took this photo during the fanmeeting and made it for me."
"Any words?" "I will continue to do my best so I can get into the round of 16."
I missed out a lot of stuff since I can't type that fast
On November 17 2010 21:27 konadora wrote: Paralyze: "Hi, I am SKT's protoss, Jung Kyung Doo." "I have gotten a lot of firsts today. First cheerful, first appearance, first win..."
"and first PvZ win on pathfinder too!"
"BeSt lost against great in their previous encounter, did BeSt give you any good advice?" "They just told me to do well. They joking said I will lose in 2nd stage, but actually just gave me a lot of good advice."
"All we saw of you was doing hi-five during Proleague. Your afro hairstyle stood out a lot." "It helps me identify myself."
"Do you tie yourself to Bisu or BeSt more?" "Both."
"You have to face Leta next." "I have confidence in PvT but not that much in PvZ. But since I won my PvZ today, I will play normally in my next stage."
"This is your first cheerful, who made it?" "I think someone took this photo during the fanmeeting and made it for me."
"Any words?" "I will continue to do my best so I can get into the round of 16."
I missed out a lot of stuff since I can't type that fast
On November 17 2010 21:29 iNoobSoWhat wrote: Will be nice if after heavy harass Bisu PvZ style, he show us heavy macro Best PvT style!
I really don't like either of those players, but I admit that it would be really fucking cool to see that. Just the idea that he can preform like both of his stylistically distinct mentors is awesome. I even like Leta too.
If I start liking an SKT1 player I don't know what will happen to me......
On November 17 2010 21:30 doothegee wrote: Note of interest: Frozen has the highest "last 10 games" TvP winrate out of all current Starleaguers. (8-2)
(is what the commentator said)
Anyway, Movie is no good at PvT anyway.
He's been a (the? maybe) contributing factor for the new found STX Terran line.
On November 17 2010 21:29 Holgerius wrote: Thanks for translating Konadora! <3
I hope Movie gets crushed, he has the most silly, gimmicky and retarded PvT in the scene. -__-
Are you serious? I remember Movie used to be very good at PvT...
Anyways, I still want Frozean to win for the entertainment value.
It's horrible. He's the type of player who does stupid recalls when there's absolutely no need to and stuff like that. And it's ridiclulously gimmicky, all he knows how to to do is stuff like proxy gate + gas steal, 12 Nex --> DT's, DT rush, 12 ---> DT drop, proxy robotics/reaver gayness, DT/Reaver rush from one base, gas Steal + Proxy Robotics. I take that back, he doesn't even know how to do those things, he tends to fail anyway.
I hate Movie's PvT. He can't play straight up at all.
On November 17 2010 21:27 konadora wrote: Paralyze: "Hi, I am SKT's protoss, Jung Kyung Doo." "I have gotten a lot of firsts today. First cheerful, first appearance, first win..."
"and first PvZ win on pathfinder too!"
"BeSt lost against great in their previous encounter, did BeSt give you any good advice?" "They just told me to do well. They joking said I will lose in 2nd stage, but actually just gave me a lot of good advice."
"All we saw of you was doing hi-five during Proleague. Your afro hairstyle stood out a lot." "It helps me identify myself."
"Do you tie yourself to Bisu or BeSt more?" "Both."
"You have to face Leta next." "I have confidence in PvT but not that much in PvZ. But since I won my PvZ today, I will play normally in my next stage."
"This is your first cheerful, who made it?" "I think someone took this photo during the fanmeeting and made it for me."
"Any words?" "I will continue to do my best so I can get into the round of 16."
"You seem to have suddenly gained a lot of female fans!" "I think they're all Bisu fans."
I missed out a lot of stuff since I can't type that fast
On November 17 2010 21:39 doothegee wrote: Movie's PvT = new Modesty ZvT?
Because Modestly's series against Skyhigh was really unimpressive?
....
Lol i watched it half-asleep, but I seem to remember Skyhigh failing a lot more than Modesty playing well. Sorry, couldn't think of a bad matchup to compare Movie's PvT to.
"We have 1 match left and it's already 10pm!" "Why not start at 6.30, as usual? Why push back 1 hour?" "When I end my work and reach home, my wife and kids are already sleeping and it's weird to eat all by myself..." "I told my wife about the timing and she went, "whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!?" "seven thirtyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!?""
He put up a tough fight against Flash in the OSL finals, then he loses to Frozen (of all people) in a pathetic way. You would think after all the experience he's been through, his decision making would be better then that.
On November 17 2010 21:42 konadora wrote: "We'll be right back!"
- Commercial Starts -
"We have 1 match left and it's already 10pm!" "Why not start at 6.30, as usual? Why push back 1 hour?" "When I end my work and reach home, my wife and kids are already sleeping and it's weird to eat all by myself..." "I told my wife about the timing and she went, "whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!?" "seven thirtyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!?""
On November 17 2010 21:43 tenacity wrote: wow movie is 0-10 in pvp PL ^^
oh how far he has fallen!
How did this guy get 2nd place in the OSL a few seasons ago?
3 PvZ series wins - hero, Shine, ZerO 1 PvP win - beat Pusan because of no detection against DT 2 PvT wins - against renowned horrid TvPers Light and go.go
On November 17 2010 21:39 doothegee wrote: Movie's PvT = new Modesty ZvT?
Because Modestly's series against Skyhigh was really unimpressive?
....
Lol i watched it half-asleep, but I seem to remember Skyhigh failing a lot more than Modesty playing well. Sorry, couldn't think of a bad matchup to compare Movie's PvT to.
iirc it was a 2 port first game which Modesty beat with impeccable defense and followed with drop. The second game was a bit back and forth as I remember, and by virtue of good plays rather than an exchange of bad ones.
On November 17 2010 21:39 doothegee wrote: Movie's PvT = new Modesty ZvT?
Because Modestly's series against Skyhigh was really unimpressive?
....
Lol i watched it half-asleep, but I seem to remember Skyhigh failing a lot more than Modesty playing well. Sorry, couldn't think of a bad matchup to compare Movie's PvT to.
iirc it was a 2 port first game which Modesty beat with impeccable defense and followed with drop. The second game was a bit back and forth as I remember, and by virtue of good plays rather than an exchange of bad ones.
My bad. Allow me to compare it to Casy TvP or something.
Nice reaver micro from Movie! I gotta say, even though he lost Game 1 horribly, if a few scarabs had gone his way we might have been looking at a 2-0 here instead of 1-1.
On November 17 2010 22:03 radialis wrote: frozen seems to like picking fights with players better than him. manner CC vs not only bisu, but now movie? hope he loses game 3
On November 17 2010 21:59 doothegee wrote: As terrible as this series is, whoever wins here will destroy Hyuk.
pah, at least Hyuks ZvP is decent, he will own poor Movie .... i believe
Movies PvZ is actually really really good
well, PvZ and ZvP are Movie's and Hyuk's best matchups if you just look at the stats considiring the bad shape both players are in it`s very hard to say who will come on top here
On November 17 2010 22:03 radialis wrote: frozen seems to like picking fights with players better than him. manner CC vs not only bisu, but now movie? hope he loses game 3
How is Movie better?
movie at least made a finals and has a better win rate, but i guess in their current form it's more even, but i'd still say movie is fairing better
On November 17 2010 22:11 Holgerius wrote: These two players are so bad, but not in a funny Jaehoon type of way, I just get annoyed when I watch this. -__-
I feel like Jaehoon is fail because of lack of skill or nerves that gets him unable to execute. I feel like neither of these players have any idea as to what they're doing.
On November 17 2010 22:11 Holgerius wrote: These two players are so bad, but not in a funny Jaehoon type of way, I just get annoyed when I watch this. -__-
? I don't get it, what's movie doing wrong this game? He seems to be playing pretty solid...
I think I disliked all of those results today. The second matchup was OK because great isn't that awesome and he got beat by a dude with an afro, so who can complain. The other two I am pretty unhappy about.
Is a manner Nexus/CC really that BM? Shit like FBH using battlecruisers against Savior and Jaedong or nuke rushing Sheis is the cool shit because there is actual risk in doing something as badass as that. But manner buildings like this is so weak because there isn't any risk to it, the opponent has lost so badly that you can probably A move units and win.
Frozean has taken go.go's niche of being that bad terran that loves manner CCs; just as pathetic too.
On November 17 2010 22:20 Womwomwom wrote: Is a manner Nexus/CC really that BM? Shit like FBH using battlecruisers against Savior and Jaedong or nuke rushing Sheis is the cool shit because there is actual risk in doing something as badass as that.
Doesn't really matter I guess since Frozean has taken go.go's niche of being that bad terran that loves manner CCs; just as pathetic too.
On November 17 2010 22:20 Womwomwom wrote: Is a manner Nexus/CC really that BM? Shit like FBH using battlecruisers against Savior and Jaedong or nuke rushing Sheis is the cool shit because there is actual risk in doing something as badass as that.
Doesn't really matter I guess since Frozean has taken go.go's niche of being that bad terran that loves manner CCs; just as pathetic too.
Well it wouldn't have been so lame if he wasn't praying before the game.
On November 17 2010 22:20 Womwomwom wrote: Is a manner Nexus/CC really that BM? Shit like FBH using battlecruisers against Savior and Jaedong or nuke rushing Sheis is the cool shit because there is actual risk in doing something as badass as that.
Doesn't really matter I guess since Frozean has taken go.go's niche of being that bad terran that loves manner CCs; just as pathetic too.
It was the first game in a Bo3, rather foolish to BM. And the game lasted less than 10mins, so I'm not sure what that BM was about.
I also think Movie played well. He got really unlucky with dud scarabs, in game 1 it really hurt him bad even though the one in game 2 was just amazing that it did not explode.
He handled the push in game 2 great and just took advantage of that to win the game. In game 3 that last push was just really sweet and he had good macro to keep a constant stream of units pooring over Frozen.
holy shit, Paralyze, the guy who had a 5-17 PvZ record including minor leagues and offline qualifiers just 2-0 the only zerg who almost beat Bisu ? I'm impressed. With Sun rising (no pun intended), that would make a 4th good protoss at SKT ?!
No surprise for the two other matches. Frozen is bad, and Soulkey is on fire (lol he melted Snow wtf with the not intended puns)
On November 17 2010 22:47 endy wrote: holy shit, Paralyze, the guy who had a 5-17 PvZ record including minor leagues and offline qualifiers just 2-0 the only zerg who almost beat Bisu ? I'm impressed. With Sun rising (no pun intended), that would make a 4th good protoss at SKT ?!
No surprise for the two other matches. Frozen is bad, and Soulkey is on fire (lol he melted Snow wtf with the not intended puns)
Great also beat Movie in the MSL, back when Movie was unbeatable in pvz. Great had his moments pushing Calm to 5 games later on. He's fallen off since, it's not really shocking he lost to Paralyze.
On November 17 2010 22:47 endy wrote: holy shit, Paralyze, the guy who had a 5-17 PvZ record including minor leagues and offline qualifiers just 2-0 the only zerg who almost beat Bisu ? I'm impressed. With Sun rising (no pun intended), that would make a 4th good protoss at SKT ?!
No surprise for the two other matches. Frozen is bad, and Soulkey is on fire (lol he melted Snow wtf with the not intended puns)
Great also beat Movie in the MSL, back when Movie was unbeatable in pvz. Great had his moments pushing Calm to 5 games later on. He's fallen off since, it's not really shocking he lost to Paralyze.
Well his ZvT is still horrible, but his recent ZvP performance against Violet and Bisu was impressive.
I would say both of them, great played bad, paralyze well (although his macro slipped from time to time). great made some really bad decisions, paralyze responsed properly and showed some nice micro.
On November 18 2010 00:51 night terrors wrote: People, since VODS aren't up yet, what was the deal with Great and Paralyze? Did great just play terribly or is Paralyze kinda decent/good?
Paralyze play good. Great not bad, but not good too.
On November 17 2010 22:47 endy wrote: holy shit, Paralyze, the guy who had a 5-17 PvZ record including minor leagues and offline qualifiers just 2-0 the only zerg who almost beat Bisu ? I'm impressed. With Sun rising (no pun intended), that would make a 4th good protoss at SKT ?!
No surprise for the two other matches. Frozen is bad, and Soulkey is on fire (lol he melted Snow wtf with the not intended puns)
Great also beat Movie in the MSL, back when Movie was unbeatable in pvz. Great had his moments pushing Calm to 5 games later on. He's fallen off since, it's not really shocking he lost to Paralyze.
Well his ZvT is still horrible, but his recent ZvP performance against Violet and Bisu was impressive.
Decent to solid ZvP, and bad ZvT, that's basically 90% of Zergs....
SKToss! Shiet they should just go ahead and send out four protosses in Proleague, just like how they sent out four (or three?) zergs last season against Khan xD
On November 18 2010 03:39 ArvickHero wrote: SKToss! Shiet they should just go ahead and send out four protosses in Proleague, just like how they sent out four (or three?) zergs last season against Khan xD
soo>jangbi s2>brave hyuk>stork
yeah it was khan :D
but quadruple sktoss would rape any team anyways
I NEED A WINNER'S INTERVIEW PLEASE PARALYZE SO BALLER 100% WINRATE
On November 18 2010 00:51 night terrors wrote: People, since VODS aren't up yet, what was the deal with Great and Paralyze? Did great just play terribly or is Paralyze kinda decent/good?
people were just so hyped up about the fro .. they couldn't contain their happiness .. especially after the 1st game when the 1st P won on that map .. lololol
On November 18 2010 03:39 ArvickHero wrote: SKToss! Shiet they should just go ahead and send out four protosses in Proleague, just like how they sent out four (or three?) zergs last season against Khan xD
soo>jangbi s2>brave hyuk>stork
yeah it was khan :D
but quadruple sktoss would rape any team anyways
I NEED A WINNER'S INTERVIEW PLEASE PARALYZE SO BALLER 100% WINRATE
damn you guys why you have to remind me of that D: SKT will get their comeuppance soon
On November 17 2010 22:47 endy wrote: holy shit, Paralyze, the guy who had a 5-17 PvZ record including minor leagues and offline qualifiers just 2-0 the only zerg who almost beat Bisu ? I'm impressed. With Sun rising (no pun intended), that would make a 4th good protoss at SKT ?!
No surprise for the two other matches. Frozen is bad, and Soulkey is on fire (lol he melted Snow wtf with the not intended puns)
Great also beat Movie in the MSL, back when Movie was unbeatable in pvz. Great had his moments pushing Calm to 5 games later on. He's fallen off since, it's not really shocking he lost to Paralyze.
Movie was never unbeatable or even that amazing in PvZ. He just had a few good wins with timing attacks and suddenly was completely overhyped despite still being just 50% winrate. I thin kit's more the fact he was one of the only guys who was actually winning any PvZ with any consistency that made people think he was better. In actual fact Shuttle and Jangbi both had better PvZ streaks than him around the same time periods iirc.
In all seriousness, people may have put some stock into Paralyze beating Really in the prelims group. (Though Really has not been doing so well lately)
Soulkey is going to crush Hiya so hard. Hiya is definitely in a slump (see PL results), and Soulkey is on fire. Strangely, I think the Leta/Paralyze match might actually be the closest. Leta is certainly not known for his TvP, even though it has improved as of late; Paralyze is an unknown but he took out Great, who has some pretty strong ZvP.
On November 19 2010 04:18 setzer wrote: Soulkey is going to crush Hiya so hard. Hiya is definitely in a slump (see PL results), and Soulkey is on fire. Strangely, I think the Leta/Paralyze match might actually be the closest. Leta is certainly not known for his TvP, even though it has improved as of late; Paralyze is an unknown but he took out Great, who has some pretty strong ZvP.
Nah, hes not on fire; hes just that good. Soulkey FIGHTING!!!
Not sure what I think about snow yet, it definitely seems like he has some pretty darn good PvT but I haven't decided if he is a sniper or all around solid yet. Time will tell I guess.