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On November 10 2010 13:54 Grobyc wrote: How the hell did people recommend that? That was one of the most 1 sided games I've ever seen :S
Perfect marine medic micro. One control group of marines vs 5 lurkers and like 12+ lings? Soulkey didn't make any huge blunders too just got caught out of position for a couple seconds and that was all Flash needed to destroy his whole base. Extremely impressive.
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Lol at the people thinking JD is favourite over Flash in late game. :D
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Also I seriously just want to point at games like this and fucking cram it in the face of people who say Flash just turtles alot. He is the absolute goddamn best at aggressive, risky plays and does them successfully more than anyone else.
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On November 10 2010 13:57 Kazius wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2010 13:53 iNoobSoWhat wrote:On November 10 2010 13:52 oXoCube wrote:On November 10 2010 13:50 swanized wrote: well HAD this gone to lategame soulkey would had raped FLash so hard... Flash is always the favorite late game. ALWAYS Actually Flash is pretty much the favorite at all times, but mostly late game. No. Jae owning FlaSh in late game 90% of time. No, he doesn't, he didn't, and he won't. Double gold, get over it. Anyways, back to the game. That was embarrassing. Lurker opening gets raped by marine agression... it doesn't get more one-sided than that (well, maybe 2hatch muta getting beaten by an SCV rush). SK was outclassed. What? Flash won vs Jae only if he fast kill 3rd gas.
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I was gonna make an epic post about how this was not really one-sided but soulkey just got caught in the worst possible spot, then realized woongjin to KT tags ratio is 20:1
anyways well done Flash, we'll see how you do vs soulkey in the Ace
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damnit SK, that was kinda disappointing. Got caught with his pants down and a wide open main and let Flash establish a better position.
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On November 10 2010 14:00 iNoobSoWhat wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2010 13:57 Kazius wrote:On November 10 2010 13:53 iNoobSoWhat wrote:On November 10 2010 13:52 oXoCube wrote:On November 10 2010 13:50 swanized wrote: well HAD this gone to lategame soulkey would had raped FLash so hard... Flash is always the favorite late game. ALWAYS Actually Flash is pretty much the favorite at all times, but mostly late game. No. Jae owning FlaSh in late game 90% of time. No, he doesn't, he didn't, and he won't. Double gold, get over it. Anyways, back to the game. That was embarrassing. Lurker opening gets raped by marine agression... it doesn't get more one-sided than that (well, maybe 2hatch muta getting beaten by an SCV rush). SK was outclassed. What? Flash won vs Jae only if he fast kill 3rd gas.
Um, 3 gas zerg is hive stage. That's lategame, mate. Also, Flash's most recent wins against Jaedong included lategame ones in WCG.
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On November 10 2010 14:01 bearbuddy wrote: damnit SK, that was kinda disappointing. Got caught with his pants down and a wide open main and let Flash establish a better position.
there it's not like it was a total fucking rape, soulkey just got caught wit his pants down
anyways well done Flash, time for really vs ForGG
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On November 10 2010 14:01 swanized wrote: I was gonna make an epic post about how this was not really one-sided but soulkey just got caught in the worst possible spot, then realized woongjin to KT tags ratio is 20:1
anyways well done Flash, we'll see how you do vs soulkey in the Ace
He could have dropped a sunk or 2 imo but he was "too cool for school"
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Mmmm I'd still give it a "check out if you have time" just because of the marine micro. It was really impressive no doubt, and definitely should be used in a highlight video or something, but you don't really know what to expect if you haven't seen the game and you check the recommended games section of an OP and see just a poll saying to watch it. Personally, I just wouldn't have been impressed enough after watching it if I had not seen it before :S
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On November 10 2010 14:00 iNoobSoWhat wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2010 13:57 Kazius wrote:On November 10 2010 13:53 iNoobSoWhat wrote:On November 10 2010 13:52 oXoCube wrote:On November 10 2010 13:50 swanized wrote: well HAD this gone to lategame soulkey would had raped FLash so hard... Flash is always the favorite late game. ALWAYS Actually Flash is pretty much the favorite at all times, but mostly late game. No. Jae owning FlaSh in late game 90% of time. No, he doesn't, he didn't, and he won't. Double gold, get over it. Anyways, back to the game. That was embarrassing. Lurker opening gets raped by marine agression... it doesn't get more one-sided than that (well, maybe 2hatch muta getting beaten by an SCV rush). SK was outclassed. What? Flash won vs Jae only if he fast kill 3rd gas. okay. Those PR and Odd-Eye games didn't happen. Think what you will.
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On November 10 2010 14:04 Grobyc wrote: Mmmm I'd still give it a "check out if you have time" just because of the marine micro. It was really impressive no doubt, and definitely should be used in a highlight video or something, but you don't really know what to expect if you haven't seen the game and you check the recommended games section of an OP and see just a poll saying to watch it. Personally, I just wouldn't have been impressed enough after watching it if I had not seen it before :S
That's what the "Personal recommendations" part is for.
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Russian Federation370 Posts
On November 10 2010 14:03 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2010 14:00 iNoobSoWhat wrote:On November 10 2010 13:57 Kazius wrote:On November 10 2010 13:53 iNoobSoWhat wrote:On November 10 2010 13:52 oXoCube wrote:On November 10 2010 13:50 swanized wrote: well HAD this gone to lategame soulkey would had raped FLash so hard... Flash is always the favorite late game. ALWAYS Actually Flash is pretty much the favorite at all times, but mostly late game. No. Jae owning FlaSh in late game 90% of time. No, he doesn't, he didn't, and he won't. Double gold, get over it. Anyways, back to the game. That was embarrassing. Lurker opening gets raped by marine agression... it doesn't get more one-sided than that (well, maybe 2hatch muta getting beaten by an SCV rush). SK was outclassed. What? Flash won vs Jae only if he fast kill 3rd gas. Um, 3 gas zerg is hive stage. That's lategame, mate. Also, Flash's most recent wins against Jaedong included lategame ones in WCG. WCG was like training games. And Jae won on Tau Cross in late game.
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On November 10 2010 13:59 Mothra wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2010 13:54 Grobyc wrote: How the hell did people recommend that? That was one of the most 1 sided games I've ever seen :S Perfect marine medic micro. One control group of marines vs 5 lurkers and like 12+ lings? Soulkey didn't make any huge blunders too just got caught out of position for a couple seconds and that was all Flash needed to destroy his whole base. Extremely impressive.
While I would never call Flash's micro bad, it's not as impressive as you make it seem. Lurkers don't have that long range, and take a while to burrow and unborrow--as soon as Flash had his marine group where it was there's basically no way Soulkey could have gotten his lurkers into position to actually kill the marine group until there is literally no place left to run.
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T_T Soulkey. Ah well, caught in a bad spot and against that utterly insane marine control what can you do? Would have liked to see what kind of a fight my man could have put up late game against Flash though.
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On November 10 2010 14:03 alexpnd wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2010 14:01 swanized wrote: I was gonna make an epic post about how this was not really one-sided but soulkey just got caught in the worst possible spot, then realized woongjin to KT tags ratio is 20:1
anyways well done Flash, we'll see how you do vs soulkey in the Ace He could have dropped a sunk or 2 imo but he was "too cool for school"
he was on 2 hatch lurks...
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On November 10 2010 14:06 Vanka wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2010 13:59 Mothra wrote:On November 10 2010 13:54 Grobyc wrote: How the hell did people recommend that? That was one of the most 1 sided games I've ever seen :S Perfect marine medic micro. One control group of marines vs 5 lurkers and like 12+ lings? Soulkey didn't make any huge blunders too just got caught out of position for a couple seconds and that was all Flash needed to destroy his whole base. Extremely impressive. While I would never call Flash's micro bad, it's not as impressive as you make it seem. Lurkers don't have that long range, and take a while to burrow and unborrow--as soon as Flash had his marine group where it was there's basically no way Soulkey could have gotten his lurkers into position to actually kill the marine group until there is literally no place left to run.
Yeah it was Flash's sense and decision making that were perfect, but there was nothing much Soulkey could have done at the point. He should have built sunkens and used his lurkerling to stall time until sunkens finished
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Would one sunken and a few lings at the natural be too much of a sacrifice? It seemed that Soulkey was positioning his lurkers for a sandwich that simply wasn't there--Flash had a free lane straight into the main with nothing to impede his progress. Just bad decision-making in general.
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On November 10 2010 14:00 TwoToneTerran wrote: Also I seriously just want to point at games like this and fucking cram it in the face of people who say Flash just turtles alot. He is the absolute goddamn best at aggressive, risky plays and does them successfully more than anyone else.
flash fan futility! not one of the anti-fans will ever give flash the respect he deserves, lol
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