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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
September 03 2010 09:57 GMT
#321
haha, they have to cut out all the 'effort on the tower' segments of the osl intro
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
September 03 2010 09:57 GMT
#322
On September 03 2010 18:56 PoP wrote:
Why didn't Free just "elevator" some units (at least the zeals) from his main and attempt to sandwitch instead?


Yeah thats what I thought he was gonna do. It was a poor decision to just charge up straight on. Flash's positioning was literally perfect.

And that was such a sick timing push -__-
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
amorpheus
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria2144 Posts
September 03 2010 09:58 GMT
#323
not a good start for free
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
September 03 2010 09:58 GMT
#324
just kind of sad that free wasnt able to make good use of his shuttle @ all..
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Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
September 03 2010 09:58 GMT
#325
On September 03 2010 18:56 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 18:55 Itachii wrote:
such strong push from flash after losing dep early~

Free saw it coming too, the obs was following the tanks and marines since before they even moved out, free was just unable to do anything about it.

thats true, i still think that counter reaver was bad idea at given situation.should have tried to break it as soon as reaver popped
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SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
September 03 2010 09:58 GMT
#326
On September 03 2010 18:56 PoP wrote:
Why didn't Free just "elevator" some units (at least the zeals) from his main and attempt to sandwitch instead?

seems like he panicked and he didn't have enough at that point. And when he did have sufficient amount Flash had reinforced himself with more tanks.
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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
September 03 2010 09:58 GMT
#327
On September 03 2010 18:49 aers wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
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that sign is brilliant

but urgh, looked like free was doing ok, then flash has like a load of tanks and wins
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
September 03 2010 09:59 GMT
#328
Flash's mines were sick too....he cared to destroy old ones when pushing and had perfect positioning on the ones in the front....the bomb did nothing T___T
Jaedong :3
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 03 2010 09:59 GMT
#329
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
September 03 2010 09:59 GMT
#330
free with a slightly melancholic smile...I guess he didn't have high expectations either
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
September 03 2010 10:00 GMT
#331
damn Flash didn't scv scout at all that game - just scanned the two near bases as he moved out with his forces...
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8046 Posts
September 03 2010 10:00 GMT
#332
free has huge apm for a protoss player ~400
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
September 03 2010 10:01 GMT
#333
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JL13
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1384 Posts
September 03 2010 10:01 GMT
#334
On September 03 2010 18:59 krndandaman wrote:
anyone know how flash knew to push out at that timing? no scout whatsoever...

i guess you could assume that since free scouted rax cc late, that it was too late for free to do an all-in or some rush, so the likely option free would choose is to get a 3rd quickly.
but even then, thats all speculation...

how the hell did flash get that timing spot on with no scout?


Dragoon/gateway count. Maybe a lucky scan on the main where free expo'd to as well
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7890 Posts
September 03 2010 10:01 GMT
#335
On September 03 2010 18:59 krndandaman wrote:
anyone know how flash knew to push out at that timing? no scout whatsoever...

i guess you could assume that since free scouted rax cc late, that it was too late for free to do an all-in or some rush, so the likely option free would choose is to get a 3rd quickly.
but even then, thats all speculation...

how the hell did flash get that timing spot on with no scout?

Goon count when Free attacked his front door, I guess. Free showed the size of his army for a very long time, and probably Flash was able to know the timing of his expo this way.

I guess.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
September 03 2010 10:01 GMT
#336
On September 03 2010 18:59 krndandaman wrote:
anyone know how flash knew to push out at that timing? no scout whatsoever...

i guess you could assume that since free scouted rax cc late, that it was too late for free to do an all-in or some rush, so the likely option free would choose is to get a 3rd quickly.
but even then, thats all speculation...

how the hell did flash get that timing spot on with no scout?

Flash is just insane w/ his strategies and timing windows.. He must've discovered that timing window to destroy free from practice, I imagine it would've worked very well in most situations..
Writerptrk
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
September 03 2010 10:01 GMT
#337
On September 03 2010 18:59 krndandaman wrote:
anyone know how flash knew to push out at that timing? no scout whatsoever...

i guess you could assume that since free scouted rax cc late, that it was too late for free to do an all-in or some rush, so the likely option free would choose is to get a 3rd quickly.
but even then, thats all speculation...

how the hell did flash get that timing spot on with no scout?


I expect that once you get to S-class, the timings are down in your head. You will know when there's a timing window if you went X and he went Y and expanded at Z timing.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Zozo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil2579 Posts
September 03 2010 10:03 GMT
#338
Flash's mine/turret/tank placement is just out of this world.
EGM guides me
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
September 03 2010 10:03 GMT
#339
Seeing the precise positioning again in the replay shows elevating a bunch of units behind flash's position could have been pretty effective

and maybe free backed off too much from flash's attack on 4.5

Wow Flash looks nonchalant.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Sigmur
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland497 Posts
September 03 2010 10:03 GMT
#340
No more JD vs Flash finals plx! =((
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