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okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
August 28 2010 10:04 GMT
#981
On August 28 2010 19:02 SuperArc wrote:
So how could have Jaedong stopped this push?

Man, Flash turtled his way all the way into Jaedong's natural this game. Stupid unstoppable terran imba turtle rushes.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
August 28 2010 10:04 GMT
#982
with the mnm in the mix, there was not much jd could do!
"Well, things were going ok until he lost all his stuff" - Tasteless, 17.02.2016
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
August 28 2010 10:04 GMT
#983
On August 28 2010 19:02 SuperArc wrote:
So how could have Jaedong stopped this push?

scouted it
brood war for life, brood war forever
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
August 28 2010 10:04 GMT
#984
On August 28 2010 19:02 alffla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 19:02 shadesofkarma wrote:
On August 28 2010 19:00 Lann555 wrote:
Not that good of a game overall though. This matchup somehow refuses to deliver classic games

iris x ggplay...


the jaedong vs flash matchup not tvz


Rush Hours 3
WCG game 1
Katrina in Bacchus OSL

There were some good games. But often they are just one-sided rapes...
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
August 28 2010 10:04 GMT
#985
On August 28 2010 19:04 SkelA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 19:02 SuperArc wrote:
So how could have Jaedong stopped this push?


scout into lurks


goliaths outrange lurkers?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
August 28 2010 10:04 GMT
#986
People give flash crap all the time for his lame play but...his timing attacks are just straight up better than just about any other terran, and with more consistency too.
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
August 28 2010 10:04 GMT
#987
On August 28 2010 19:03 malathion wrote:
LOL Bob Sapp


Asian people LOVE Bob Sapp, haha...

But then again, so do I.
♥ I used to lasso the shit out of your tournaments =( ♥ | Much is my hero. | zizi yO~ | Be Nice, TL.
datscilly
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States529 Posts
August 28 2010 10:04 GMT
#988
Jaedong didn't scout it (the marines) in time. Anyone saw if the zergling scouted the marines on the ramp outside Flash's natural? Maybe it only scouted one or two marines, because Flash was smart, and kept most of his marines and all of his medics far enough behind his goliaths.
FearDarkness
Profile Joined February 2009
United States519 Posts
August 28 2010 10:04 GMT
#989
On August 28 2010 19:02 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 19:00 FranzF1 wrote:
LWWW HOHOHOHOHOHO

Sick mindfuck by flash!


Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 19:00 Zeburial wrote:
LWWW inc!


Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 19:00 saikeraku wrote:
Believe in LWWW!


Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 19:01 prosatan wrote:
LWWW incoming....right JD?


The Jaedong Effect: Even if you win game 1, you have no momentum because it's Jaedong.


or you can go 3-0 like ForGG and Flash have done.
Can't spell Voidrays without Idra
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2231 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 10:05:13
August 28 2010 10:04 GMT
#990
On August 28 2010 19:02 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 19:00 FranzF1 wrote:
LWWW HOHOHOHOHOHO

Sick mindfuck by flash!


Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 19:00 Zeburial wrote:
LWWW inc!


Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 19:00 saikeraku wrote:
Believe in LWWW!


Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 19:01 prosatan wrote:
LWWW incoming....right JD?


The Jaedong Effect: Even if you win game 1, you have no momentum because it's Jaedong.

unless your name sf flash, that is
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
August 28 2010 10:04 GMT
#991
seriously 5 pool, Flash goes 14 cc one game out of two.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
August 28 2010 10:04 GMT
#992
These finals are depressing me already.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
August 28 2010 10:05 GMT
#993
Does anyone remember Son Goku vs Tenshinhan, when Son Goku removed his heavy Clothes?

This was the same when Flash removed his "Anti-APM-Bandage" :D
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
August 28 2010 10:05 GMT
#994
On August 28 2010 19:04 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 19:02 SuperArc wrote:
So how could have Jaedong stopped this push?

Man, Flash turtled his way all the way into Jaedong's natural this game. Stupid unstoppable terran imba turtle rushes.


I never said that, I just asked how he could have stopped it.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Rio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Vietnam598 Posts
August 28 2010 10:05 GMT
#995
SAndara :D
What ever ---------------------------------------------------™
DatTheMighty
Profile Joined March 2009
Vietnam122 Posts
August 28 2010 10:05 GMT
#996
jaedong already knew it was coming the moment he saw flash's first barrack lifted off, but he was already going in macro mode and wasted a whole round of larvaes power droning + 3 extra hatcthers, + he didn't have lurkers upgraded in time so he opted to mass hydras instead. u can tell by the suprise look on jaedongs face when flash lifted his rax. beautiful mind game by flash thats all i got from that game. pretty good overall i guess. nice mind game withe the fake 2 hatch from jaedong as well. great reactionary play from flash, just good scouting and he did all the perfect response just a fucking god like game sense from flash.
Condor
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands188 Posts
August 28 2010 10:05 GMT
#997
So, help me out here, Jaedong was expecting to be up against more mech, he intended to defend an early goliath heavy push with hydra's, and be up to hyve or with lurkers by the time tanks would be coming out in force?

But instead Flash made 4 barracks and made a timing attack just when Jaedong was beginning to saturate the 2 new expansions and his own +1 was done?
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13074 Posts
August 28 2010 10:05 GMT
#998
On August 28 2010 19:04 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 19:04 SkelA wrote:
On August 28 2010 19:02 SuperArc wrote:
So how could have Jaedong stopped this push?


scout into lurks


goliaths outrange lurkers?


no
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 28 2010 10:05 GMT
#999
On August 28 2010 19:01 krndandaman wrote:
i could barely see the lag due to the spike/lag, what happened?

could someone summarize?


Flash scouted Jaedong's 12 hatch, 14 cc'd, then started 2 factories. Jaedong rush for mutas off four lings (very very muta heavy build) and Flash started pumping goliaths off 2 factories. After some solid muta harass, Flash's turrets and Goliaths fend off Jaedong's Mutas and get to a critical mass where they can't enter his base without throwing away the bulk of his army.

Flash then quickly transitions into four barracks to create a timing push, while Jaedong starts researching hydra upgrades and getting tons of hatchers instead of sunkens -- quite possibly the worst thing you can do against MnM. Flash pushes to Jaedong's third, completely ignoring his double gas, and crushes it (at this time his fifth barracks has finished). take a position outside Jaedong's nat, kills his main force, and gets his reinforcements over the bridge.

Pretty onesided. Jaedong had like 10 seconds in this game where he looked like he was in control.
Remember Violet.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 28 2010 10:05 GMT
#1000
We need stork to stop flash like he did best.
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