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Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
August 27 2010 11:47 GMT
#821
On August 27 2010 20:44 n.DieJokes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 20:39 dennisvreyes wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:29 revy wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:12 dennisvreyes wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:06 Crunchums wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:05 dennisvreyes wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:00 Black Gun wrote:
On August 27 2010 19:59 dennisvreyes wrote:
why do people hate free? he is such a nice guy in person.


and he has one of the very best lategame army controls of all pro bw players. its just that flash would not even let him reach the lategame on even grounds. either eco cheese with his 14cc or timing push his ass. judging from the last impressions we got of the respective matchup, id rate flashs tvp as his strongest mu atm.


this is true. and the fantasy game was gosu man. i think fantasy will go down as someone who had it but just couldnt perform. too bad really, to think that strat per strat and apm per apm, he`s better than flash. and more intelligent. you have to break out somehow fantasy. boxer is counting on you

i disagree with this

also the dude has 2 osl silver medals so i never get why people lament his lack of medals


Hi Crunchums,
APM we cant argue because fantasy is better, in fact. strategy because overall, looking at his opus as a whole, fantasy is better at creating and improvising. flash just happens to have perfected (it seems in the meantime) the bio to hardcore mech build (with valks and wraiths every now and then).
but all considered, fantasy, one would think, could achieve more. he`s like the andy murray of SC


Strat per strat Apm per Apm? What the heck are you smoking. Flash doesn't have the highest APM, thats for sure but he sure as hell accomplishes more with his APM than anyone else. What's the point of having more APM if you cant do anything with it? APM for APM Flash is way better than Fantasy. As for strategy innovation all of Fantasy's builds are one trick ponies, Fantasy didn't invent mech vs Z. The bio to mech thing I'm not sure about, maybe that game vs JD on outsider was the first time there was a mech transition. That was a good build I guess. But compare it to how Flash has changed TvP and TvZ and again I would say Flash comes out on top. Look at it this way, Fantasy never initiated a time of terran domination, Flash has.


hi revy!
what about think about it this way: read the post first and make sure your bark is the right bark.
i mentioned APM only, purely, strightly as a FACT. however players use it or succeed with it is outside my point. go see the stats in the Flash vs Fantasy bigfile bo5.

Their pure apm is entirely meaningless and does nothing to further your cause...

I don't think you understand - pure apm is a FACT
brood war for life, brood war forever
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 27 2010 11:47 GMT
#822
On August 27 2010 20:46 meegrean wrote:
that match report is depressing for leta.

But hey, he got a new contract and his pay is rumored to have tripled. The higher salary should fuel his skill, shouldn't it? No?
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
August 27 2010 11:47 GMT
#823
On August 27 2010 20:45 Zona wrote:
Leta lets out a breath, he does look a bit nervous.
down 0-1 against arguably the best (or second-best) player of the day.

Don't doubt!
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
August 27 2010 11:48 GMT
#824
On August 27 2010 20:47 dennisvreyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 20:44 n.DieJokes wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:39 dennisvreyes wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:29 revy wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:12 dennisvreyes wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:06 Crunchums wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:05 dennisvreyes wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:00 Black Gun wrote:
On August 27 2010 19:59 dennisvreyes wrote:
why do people hate free? he is such a nice guy in person.


and he has one of the very best lategame army controls of all pro bw players. its just that flash would not even let him reach the lategame on even grounds. either eco cheese with his 14cc or timing push his ass. judging from the last impressions we got of the respective matchup, id rate flashs tvp as his strongest mu atm.


this is true. and the fantasy game was gosu man. i think fantasy will go down as someone who had it but just couldnt perform. too bad really, to think that strat per strat and apm per apm, he`s better than flash. and more intelligent. you have to break out somehow fantasy. boxer is counting on you

i disagree with this

also the dude has 2 osl silver medals so i never get why people lament his lack of medals


Hi Crunchums,
APM we cant argue because fantasy is better, in fact. strategy because overall, looking at his opus as a whole, fantasy is better at creating and improvising. flash just happens to have perfected (it seems in the meantime) the bio to hardcore mech build (with valks and wraiths every now and then).
but all considered, fantasy, one would think, could achieve more. he`s like the andy murray of SC


Strat per strat Apm per Apm? What the heck are you smoking. Flash doesn't have the highest APM, thats for sure but he sure as hell accomplishes more with his APM than anyone else. What's the point of having more APM if you cant do anything with it? APM for APM Flash is way better than Fantasy. As for strategy innovation all of Fantasy's builds are one trick ponies, Fantasy didn't invent mech vs Z. The bio to mech thing I'm not sure about, maybe that game vs JD on outsider was the first time there was a mech transition. That was a good build I guess. But compare it to how Flash has changed TvP and TvZ and again I would say Flash comes out on top. Look at it this way, Fantasy never initiated a time of terran domination, Flash has.


hi revy!
what about think about it this way: read the post first and make sure your bark is the right bark.
i mentioned APM only, purely, strightly as a FACT. however players use it or succeed with it is outside my point. go see the stats in the Flash vs Fantasy bigfile bo5.

Their pure apm is entirely meaningless and does nothing to further your cause...


another.
man, im saying who has higher APM. i didnt say who was better or GOD! mygad these people!

no fucking way you absolutely said who was better XD
brood war for life, brood war forever
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
August 27 2010 11:48 GMT
#825
other people need to continue arguing with this guy so I can read his responses they are hilarious
brood war for life, brood war forever
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
August 27 2010 11:48 GMT
#826
On August 27 2010 20:47 dennisvreyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 20:44 n.DieJokes wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:39 dennisvreyes wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:29 revy wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:12 dennisvreyes wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:06 Crunchums wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:05 dennisvreyes wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:00 Black Gun wrote:
On August 27 2010 19:59 dennisvreyes wrote:
why do people hate free? he is such a nice guy in person.


and he has one of the very best lategame army controls of all pro bw players. its just that flash would not even let him reach the lategame on even grounds. either eco cheese with his 14cc or timing push his ass. judging from the last impressions we got of the respective matchup, id rate flashs tvp as his strongest mu atm.


this is true. and the fantasy game was gosu man. i think fantasy will go down as someone who had it but just couldnt perform. too bad really, to think that strat per strat and apm per apm, he`s better than flash. and more intelligent. you have to break out somehow fantasy. boxer is counting on you

i disagree with this

also the dude has 2 osl silver medals so i never get why people lament his lack of medals


Hi Crunchums,
APM we cant argue because fantasy is better, in fact. strategy because overall, looking at his opus as a whole, fantasy is better at creating and improvising. flash just happens to have perfected (it seems in the meantime) the bio to hardcore mech build (with valks and wraiths every now and then).
but all considered, fantasy, one would think, could achieve more. he`s like the andy murray of SC


Strat per strat Apm per Apm? What the heck are you smoking. Flash doesn't have the highest APM, thats for sure but he sure as hell accomplishes more with his APM than anyone else. What's the point of having more APM if you cant do anything with it? APM for APM Flash is way better than Fantasy. As for strategy innovation all of Fantasy's builds are one trick ponies, Fantasy didn't invent mech vs Z. The bio to mech thing I'm not sure about, maybe that game vs JD on outsider was the first time there was a mech transition. That was a good build I guess. But compare it to how Flash has changed TvP and TvZ and again I would say Flash comes out on top. Look at it this way, Fantasy never initiated a time of terran domination, Flash has.


hi revy!
what about think about it this way: read the post first and make sure your bark is the right bark.
i mentioned APM only, purely, strightly as a FACT. however players use it or succeed with it is outside my point. go see the stats in the Flash vs Fantasy bigfile bo5.

Their pure apm is entirely meaningless and does nothing to further your cause...


another.
man, im saying who has higher APM. i didnt say who was better or GOD! mygad these people!

yes I understand that, I'm saying higher APM doesn't matter in any way and it doesn't make sense to include it in a argument
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 27 2010 11:49 GMT
#827
On August 27 2010 20:47 Vivi57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 20:45 Zona wrote:
Leta lets out a breath, he does look a bit nervous.
down 0-1 against arguably the best (or second-best) player of the day.

Don't doubt!

I don't doubt Leta! Surprise everyone by taking this monster down!

Flash back to the pocari sweat. He's got TWO tall bottles ready in his booth. He knows what's up - prepared, not for an easy 2-0, but a long, hard-fought battle.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 27 2010 11:50 GMT
#828
Flash takes off his earmuffs and blows on his earbuds?

What was that rectangular electronic gizmo to the right of his mouse on the table?
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
August 27 2010 11:50 GMT
#829
i know its a long shot
but if leta wins the next 2 games i'll be the most happy person in team liquid
there would still be good games and even awesome
and either stork or jaedong will take the osl how awesome would that be??
plz leta do it for flash fans
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
dennisvreyes
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
175 Posts
August 27 2010 11:51 GMT
#830
On August 27 2010 20:48 n.DieJokes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 20:47 dennisvreyes wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:44 n.DieJokes wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:39 dennisvreyes wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:29 revy wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:12 dennisvreyes wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:06 Crunchums wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:05 dennisvreyes wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:00 Black Gun wrote:
On August 27 2010 19:59 dennisvreyes wrote:
why do people hate free? he is such a nice guy in person.


and he has one of the very best lategame army controls of all pro bw players. its just that flash would not even let him reach the lategame on even grounds. either eco cheese with his 14cc or timing push his ass. judging from the last impressions we got of the respective matchup, id rate flashs tvp as his strongest mu atm.


this is true. and the fantasy game was gosu man. i think fantasy will go down as someone who had it but just couldnt perform. too bad really, to think that strat per strat and apm per apm, he`s better than flash. and more intelligent. you have to break out somehow fantasy. boxer is counting on you

i disagree with this

also the dude has 2 osl silver medals so i never get why people lament his lack of medals


Hi Crunchums,
APM we cant argue because fantasy is better, in fact. strategy because overall, looking at his opus as a whole, fantasy is better at creating and improvising. flash just happens to have perfected (it seems in the meantime) the bio to hardcore mech build (with valks and wraiths every now and then).
but all considered, fantasy, one would think, could achieve more. he`s like the andy murray of SC


Strat per strat Apm per Apm? What the heck are you smoking. Flash doesn't have the highest APM, thats for sure but he sure as hell accomplishes more with his APM than anyone else. What's the point of having more APM if you cant do anything with it? APM for APM Flash is way better than Fantasy. As for strategy innovation all of Fantasy's builds are one trick ponies, Fantasy didn't invent mech vs Z. The bio to mech thing I'm not sure about, maybe that game vs JD on outsider was the first time there was a mech transition. That was a good build I guess. But compare it to how Flash has changed TvP and TvZ and again I would say Flash comes out on top. Look at it this way, Fantasy never initiated a time of terran domination, Flash has.


hi revy!
what about think about it this way: read the post first and make sure your bark is the right bark.
i mentioned APM only, purely, strightly as a FACT. however players use it or succeed with it is outside my point. go see the stats in the Flash vs Fantasy bigfile bo5.

Their pure apm is entirely meaningless and does nothing to further your cause...


another.
man, im saying who has higher APM. i didnt say who was better or GOD! mygad these people!

yes I understand that, I'm saying higher APM doesn't matter in any way and it doesn't make sense to include it in a argument


as a matter of fact, enough sideposts! cmon this is FLASH vs LETA already!!!
lets get some epic TvTs here man!!!
finkelboy
Profile Joined December 2008
Italy372 Posts
August 27 2010 11:51 GMT
#831
Could someone tell me which race these maps are favoring?
Ma jae yoon, what else? By.hero next bonjwa
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 27 2010 11:51 GMT
#832
Leta's looks are so much better in the intro...
The intro roll containing so many fallen players.

Match 2282!
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
August 27 2010 11:51 GMT
#833
I predict wraiths for flash!
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
August 27 2010 11:51 GMT
#834
If Leta gets a significant advantage at the start it's possible for him to win, otherwise been there done that Flash wins
brood war for life, brood war forever
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
August 27 2010 11:52 GMT
#835
On August 27 2010 20:51 finkelboy wrote:
Could someone tell me which race these maps are favoring?

Flash
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 27 2010 11:52 GMT
#836
Leta looks to the left for awhile, does another neck stretch.

Wow Flash just finished off his first bottle of Pocari sweat.

A pretty chubby fangirl beside a sign a fan is holding up.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
August 27 2010 11:52 GMT
#837
On August 27 2010 20:51 Zona wrote:
Leta's looks are so much better in the intro...
The intro roll containing so many fallen players.

Match 2282!

11 to be exact [image loading]
brood war for life, brood war forever
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 11:53:27
August 27 2010 11:52 GMT
#838
leta top left in purple
flash top right in green
eye of the storm
brood war for life, brood war forever
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 27 2010 11:53 GMT
#839
Flash the teal terran at 1.
Leta the purple terran at 11.
Can they take the Eye of the Storm?
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
August 27 2010 11:53 GMT
#840
leta cheesing lol
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