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[OSL] Round of 8 - Day 2 - Page 40

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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
August 27 2010 11:34 GMT
#781
Free's PvZ is so good. ^__^ 2 Ps in the semis, yay! Too bad they don't play vs eachother (so we would've been guaranteed a P in the final).
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
August 27 2010 11:34 GMT
#782
It's been a long wait for all these 2 and 0's. Hopefully Leta can take at least 1 set off Flash - can't see it though.

Two Toss in the semis is win!
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
August 27 2010 11:34 GMT
#783
On August 27 2010 20:34 Holgerius wrote:
Free's PvZ is so good. ^__^ 2 Ps in the semis, yay! Too bad they don't play vs eachother (so we would've been guaranteed a P in the final).


It is rather the opposite :D
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
August 27 2010 11:35 GMT
#784
On August 27 2010 20:33 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 20:31 keV. wrote:
Wow. Just tuned in.

What is with the fancy venue for the quarters? That is unexpected...

It's because the OSL finals isn't in Korea so they are trying to hype this OSL up as much as possible for the Koreans while it is still IN korea.


OH yea! Forgot about that. That makes sense. Pretty cool anyway! It is a pretty stacked Ro8. That is for sure.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
August 27 2010 11:35 GMT
#785
On August 27 2010 20:34 Severedevil wrote:
Two Protoss in the Semifinals, to make up for none in the MSL.

I thought 3 hatch spire --> 5 hatch hydra made Sair/DT outdated. Am I crazy?


We have tons of protoss winning lately.

Just look at how KT raped SKT1 with protoss..
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
August 27 2010 11:35 GMT
#786
On August 27 2010 20:32 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 20:30 Womwomwom wrote:
Honestly thought ZvP was easy - do a good simcity, get spores to prevent DT/Corsair harassment, get bases, mass units, kill protoss with hive tech.

Obviously not for Zero.

way way way too greedy. He never switched fully to unit production
and consequently not enough other stuff to defend his lurker field

And letting free stay on equal or even more bases for the entire game


Most of the problems were caused from before. The Corsair, Shuttle, and DT harass couldn't be stopped because Zero had nothing to prevent it from happening (early game hydralisks are not an answer to corsairs).

With that amount of lost mining time/economic damage/lost overlords, obviously you can't field an army to stop dozens of storms.
Chaos
Profile Joined July 2009
United States772 Posts
August 27 2010 11:35 GMT
#787
On August 27 2010 20:34 Severedevil wrote:
Two Protoss in the Semifinals, to make up for none in the MSL.

I thought 3 hatch spire --> 5 hatch hydra made Sair/DT outdated. Am I crazy?


Sair/dt can still have its moments. 1 DT can still change the course of any game
FruitMarket
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 11:36:22
August 27 2010 11:35 GMT
#788
On August 27 2010 20:34 Holgerius wrote:
Free's PvZ is so good. ^__^ 2 Ps in the semis, yay! Too bad they don't play vs eachother (so we would've been guaranteed a P in the final).

It's more epic with Flash and Jaedong both guaranteed a powerful Protoss opponent in the semis.

Where by Flash and Jaedong I of course mean Leta and Jaedong. This OSL will be the story of their mancrush.
My strategy is to fork people.
Gustav_Wind
Profile Joined July 2008
United States646 Posts
August 27 2010 11:36 GMT
#789
2 stargate sair dt is pretty outdated, but Protoss still masses sairs and builds DTs in most PvZs

this game Free went for a semi-risky fast DT drop (earlier shuttle than usual for non sair reaver builds), and it paid off.
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
August 27 2010 11:37 GMT
#790
On August 27 2010 20:35 Severedevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 20:34 Holgerius wrote:
Free's PvZ is so good. ^__^ 2 Ps in the semis, yay! Too bad they don't play vs eachother (so we would've been guaranteed a P in the final).

It's more epic with Flash and Jaedong both guaranteed a powerful Protoss opponent in the semis.

Where by Flash and Jaedong I of course mean Leta and Jaedong. This OSL will be the story of their mancrush.


I would lol so hard if that happened XD
Jaedong and Baby
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
August 27 2010 11:37 GMT
#791
On August 27 2010 20:35 Severedevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 20:34 Holgerius wrote:
Free's PvZ is so good. ^__^ 2 Ps in the semis, yay! Too bad they don't play vs eachother (so we would've been guaranteed a P in the final).

It's more epic with Flash and Jaedong both guaranteed a powerful Protoss opponent in the semis.

Where by Flash and Jaedong I of course mean Leta and Jaedong. This OSL will be the story of their mancrush.

Except both Flash and JD have ridiculous vP skills, so we'll end up with yet another final without a good Protoss.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
zmeqt
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria527 Posts
August 27 2010 11:37 GMT
#792
MSL semis raised the bar incredibly high for the OSL,I expect no less from 2 awesome 3-2 series!
the slogans
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
August 27 2010 11:37 GMT
#793
On August 27 2010 20:37 Yxes2211 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 20:35 Severedevil wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:34 Holgerius wrote:
Free's PvZ is so good. ^__^ 2 Ps in the semis, yay! Too bad they don't play vs eachother (so we would've been guaranteed a P in the final).

It's more epic with Flash and Jaedong both guaranteed a powerful Protoss opponent in the semis.

Where by Flash and Jaedong I of course mean Leta and Jaedong. This OSL will be the story of their mancrush.


I would lol so hard if that happened XD

Instead of kissing the trophy, they will kiss each other.
My strategy is to fork people.
Askalaphos
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany772 Posts
August 27 2010 11:38 GMT
#794
On August 27 2010 20:35 Severedevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 20:34 Holgerius wrote:
Free's PvZ is so good. ^__^ 2 Ps in the semis, yay! Too bad they don't play vs eachother (so we would've been guaranteed a P in the final).

It's more epic with Flash and Jaedong both guaranteed a powerful Protoss opponent in the semis...

...and than facing each other in the final!!!
FavZerg: EffOrt, Jaedong; FavProtoss: Movie, Kal; FavTerran: BaBy, Leta
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
August 27 2010 11:38 GMT
#795
Free < stats > Zero
149 < units made > 275
181 < units killed > 63
63 < units lost > 181
21594 < minerals > 20386
7184 < gas > 6760
356 < avg apm > 314
451 < highest apm > 386
267 < lowest apm > 224

14 minutes 57 seconds
TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
Batisterio-PiB
Profile Joined August 2007
Brazil219 Posts
August 27 2010 11:39 GMT
#796
On August 27 2010 20:37 zmeqt wrote:
MSL semis raised the bar incredibly high for the OSL,I expect no less from 2 awesome 3-2 series!

Sadly, it ll be two 3-0 semi....i dont think stork will take a game from jaedong and free has less chance of taking a game from flash....
dennisvreyes
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
175 Posts
August 27 2010 11:39 GMT
#797
On August 27 2010 20:29 revy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 20:12 dennisvreyes wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:06 Crunchums wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:05 dennisvreyes wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:00 Black Gun wrote:
On August 27 2010 19:59 dennisvreyes wrote:
why do people hate free? he is such a nice guy in person.


and he has one of the very best lategame army controls of all pro bw players. its just that flash would not even let him reach the lategame on even grounds. either eco cheese with his 14cc or timing push his ass. judging from the last impressions we got of the respective matchup, id rate flashs tvp as his strongest mu atm.


this is true. and the fantasy game was gosu man. i think fantasy will go down as someone who had it but just couldnt perform. too bad really, to think that strat per strat and apm per apm, he`s better than flash. and more intelligent. you have to break out somehow fantasy. boxer is counting on you

i disagree with this

also the dude has 2 osl silver medals so i never get why people lament his lack of medals


Hi Crunchums,
APM we cant argue because fantasy is better, in fact. strategy because overall, looking at his opus as a whole, fantasy is better at creating and improvising. flash just happens to have perfected (it seems in the meantime) the bio to hardcore mech build (with valks and wraiths every now and then).
but all considered, fantasy, one would think, could achieve more. he`s like the andy murray of SC


Strat per strat Apm per Apm? What the heck are you smoking. Flash doesn't have the highest APM, thats for sure but he sure as hell accomplishes more with his APM than anyone else. What's the point of having more APM if you cant do anything with it? APM for APM Flash is way better than Fantasy. As for strategy innovation all of Fantasy's builds are one trick ponies, Fantasy didn't invent mech vs Z. The bio to mech thing I'm not sure about, maybe that game vs JD on outsider was the first time there was a mech transition. That was a good build I guess. But compare it to how Flash has changed TvP and TvZ and again I would say Flash comes out on top. Look at it this way, Fantasy never initiated a time of terran domination, Flash has.


hi revy!
what about think about it this way: read the post first and make sure your bark is the right bark.
i mentioned APM only, purely, strightly as a FACT. however players use it or succeed with it is outside my point. go see the stats in the Flash vs Fantasy bigfile bo5.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
August 27 2010 11:39 GMT
#798
I thought Free was in deep trouble when he lost so many corsairs to kill the last overlord, but I didn't notice his fourth came up right after Zero's.
My strategy is to fork people.
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
August 27 2010 11:40 GMT
#799
On August 27 2010 20:39 Batisterio-PiB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 20:37 zmeqt wrote:
MSL semis raised the bar incredibly high for the OSL,I expect no less from 2 awesome 3-2 series!

Sadly, it ll be two 3-0 semi....i dont think stork will take a game from jaedong and free has less chance of taking a game from flash....


I feel a repeat of last MSL semis with free and Flash :/
Jaedong and Baby
dennisvreyes
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
175 Posts
August 27 2010 11:40 GMT
#800
On August 27 2010 20:38 Smix wrote:
Free < stats > Zero
149 < units made > 275
181 < units killed > 63
63 < units lost > 181
21594 < minerals > 20386
7184 < gas > 6760
356 < avg apm > 314
451 < highest apm > 386
267 < lowest apm > 224

14 minutes 57 seconds


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