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sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
August 27 2010 11:41 GMT
#801
On August 27 2010 20:39 Batisterio-PiB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 20:37 zmeqt wrote:
MSL semis raised the bar incredibly high for the OSL,I expect no less from 2 awesome 3-2 series!

Sadly, it ll be two 3-0 semi....i dont think stork will take a game from jaedong and free has less chance of taking a game from flash....

pff Vastly underestimating Stork and free.
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
August 27 2010 11:41 GMT
#802
On August 27 2010 20:32 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 20:30 Womwomwom wrote:
Honestly thought ZvP was easy - do a good simcity, get spores to prevent DT/Corsair harassment, get bases, mass units, kill protoss with hive tech.

Obviously not for Zero.

way way way too greedy. He never switched fully to unit production
and consequently not enough other stuff to defend his lurker field

And letting free stay on equal or even more bases for the entire game

Maybe a little greedy but he had to get back in the game somehow, initial dt drop put him very behind. He never fully switched to unit production because he never really had the drone count to and free's expo timing (mainly his fourth) and unit composition were just impeccable. ZerO didn't play a perfect game but that was more about free's PvZ prowess than any major failing on ZerO's fault (after the dt drop)
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
zmeqt
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria527 Posts
August 27 2010 11:41 GMT
#803
On August 27 2010 20:39 Batisterio-PiB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 20:37 zmeqt wrote:
MSL semis raised the bar incredibly high for the OSL,I expect no less from 2 awesome 3-2 series!

Sadly, it ll be two 3-0 semi....i dont think stork will take a game from jaedong and free has less chance of taking a game from flash....

The same talk was Effort-Flash finals.Yeah thats probbaly what is expected,but upsets do happen regulary,so you never know.
the slogans
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 11:43:14
August 27 2010 11:41 GMT
#804
<snip>Apologies, double post ftl.
Batisterio-PiB
Profile Joined August 2007
Brazil219 Posts
August 27 2010 11:41 GMT
#805
On August 27 2010 20:40 Yxes2211 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 20:39 Batisterio-PiB wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:37 zmeqt wrote:
MSL semis raised the bar incredibly high for the OSL,I expect no less from 2 awesome 3-2 series!

Sadly, it ll be two 3-0 semi....i dont think stork will take a game from jaedong and free has less chance of taking a game from flash....


I feel a repeat of last MSL semis with free and Flash :/

I hope you are right! As a protoss player I really hope for a toss title!
dennisvreyes
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
175 Posts
August 27 2010 11:42 GMT
#806
WOW! i hope flash vs leta TvT goes game 3 with 5 hours each!
they're milking the fuck out of this games! hahaha
i dont care, im enjoying! leta has a chance really
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 27 2010 11:42 GMT
#807
On August 27 2010 20:35 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 20:32 Zona wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:30 Womwomwom wrote:
Honestly thought ZvP was easy - do a good simcity, get spores to prevent DT/Corsair harassment, get bases, mass units, kill protoss with hive tech.

Obviously not for Zero.

way way way too greedy. He never switched fully to unit production
and consequently not enough other stuff to defend his lurker field

And letting free stay on equal or even more bases for the entire game


Most of the problems were caused from before. The Corsair, Shuttle, and DT harass couldn't be stopped because Zero had nothing to prevent it from happening (early game hydralisks are not an answer to corsairs).

With that amount of lost mining time/economic damage/lost overlords, obviously you can't field an army to stop dozens of storms.

Actually, I think you're right. I was thinking that Zero did pretty well in response to the harass considering what he had in the situation...but he shouldn't have put himself in that situation in the first place and did fall behind as a result.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
dennisvreyes
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
175 Posts
August 27 2010 11:43 GMT
#808
at least win game 2 LETA!
nice beach also btw!
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 27 2010 11:43 GMT
#809
Flash looks so carefree.

C'mon Leta, show us something good.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
August 27 2010 11:44 GMT
#810
On August 27 2010 20:39 dennisvreyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 20:29 revy wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:12 dennisvreyes wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:06 Crunchums wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:05 dennisvreyes wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:00 Black Gun wrote:
On August 27 2010 19:59 dennisvreyes wrote:
why do people hate free? he is such a nice guy in person.


and he has one of the very best lategame army controls of all pro bw players. its just that flash would not even let him reach the lategame on even grounds. either eco cheese with his 14cc or timing push his ass. judging from the last impressions we got of the respective matchup, id rate flashs tvp as his strongest mu atm.


this is true. and the fantasy game was gosu man. i think fantasy will go down as someone who had it but just couldnt perform. too bad really, to think that strat per strat and apm per apm, he`s better than flash. and more intelligent. you have to break out somehow fantasy. boxer is counting on you

i disagree with this

also the dude has 2 osl silver medals so i never get why people lament his lack of medals


Hi Crunchums,
APM we cant argue because fantasy is better, in fact. strategy because overall, looking at his opus as a whole, fantasy is better at creating and improvising. flash just happens to have perfected (it seems in the meantime) the bio to hardcore mech build (with valks and wraiths every now and then).
but all considered, fantasy, one would think, could achieve more. he`s like the andy murray of SC


Strat per strat Apm per Apm? What the heck are you smoking. Flash doesn't have the highest APM, thats for sure but he sure as hell accomplishes more with his APM than anyone else. What's the point of having more APM if you cant do anything with it? APM for APM Flash is way better than Fantasy. As for strategy innovation all of Fantasy's builds are one trick ponies, Fantasy didn't invent mech vs Z. The bio to mech thing I'm not sure about, maybe that game vs JD on outsider was the first time there was a mech transition. That was a good build I guess. But compare it to how Flash has changed TvP and TvZ and again I would say Flash comes out on top. Look at it this way, Fantasy never initiated a time of terran domination, Flash has.


hi revy!
what about think about it this way: read the post first and make sure your bark is the right bark.
i mentioned APM only, purely, strightly as a FACT. however players use it or succeed with it is outside my point. go see the stats in the Flash vs Fantasy bigfile bo5.

Their pure apm is entirely meaningless and does nothing to further your cause...
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 27 2010 11:44 GMT
#811
I have to say it again, Leta's new hairstyle looks horrible. Both the hairdo AND the color. Let's hope his game is better.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
August 27 2010 11:44 GMT
#812
I wonder if Flash prepared more for game 2 or game 3.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
August 27 2010 11:45 GMT
#813
If I were Flash, I would prepare dual BBS.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
dennisvreyes
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
175 Posts
August 27 2010 11:45 GMT
#814
leta looks like a friggin bum addict out of school!
kk
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
August 27 2010 11:45 GMT
#815
Leta looks like he's wearing a wig made of seaweed.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17275 Posts
August 27 2010 11:45 GMT
#816
They got the protoss backwards. Free's the PvZer and Stork's the PvTer, but they're playing the opposite races.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 27 2010 11:45 GMT
#817
Leta lets out a breath, he does look a bit nervous.
down 0-1 against arguably the best (or second-best) player of the day.

And Flash has played so many TvT's lately...
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
August 27 2010 11:46 GMT
#818
that match report is depressing for leta.
Brood War loyalist
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
August 27 2010 11:46 GMT
#819
Three 2-0's down. One to go.
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
dennisvreyes
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
175 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 11:48:10
August 27 2010 11:47 GMT
#820
On August 27 2010 20:44 n.DieJokes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 20:39 dennisvreyes wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:29 revy wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:12 dennisvreyes wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:06 Crunchums wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:05 dennisvreyes wrote:
On August 27 2010 20:00 Black Gun wrote:
On August 27 2010 19:59 dennisvreyes wrote:
why do people hate free? he is such a nice guy in person.


and he has one of the very best lategame army controls of all pro bw players. its just that flash would not even let him reach the lategame on even grounds. either eco cheese with his 14cc or timing push his ass. judging from the last impressions we got of the respective matchup, id rate flashs tvp as his strongest mu atm.


this is true. and the fantasy game was gosu man. i think fantasy will go down as someone who had it but just couldnt perform. too bad really, to think that strat per strat and apm per apm, he`s better than flash. and more intelligent. you have to break out somehow fantasy. boxer is counting on you

i disagree with this

also the dude has 2 osl silver medals so i never get why people lament his lack of medals


Hi Crunchums,
APM we cant argue because fantasy is better, in fact. strategy because overall, looking at his opus as a whole, fantasy is better at creating and improvising. flash just happens to have perfected (it seems in the meantime) the bio to hardcore mech build (with valks and wraiths every now and then).
but all considered, fantasy, one would think, could achieve more. he`s like the andy murray of SC


Strat per strat Apm per Apm? What the heck are you smoking. Flash doesn't have the highest APM, thats for sure but he sure as hell accomplishes more with his APM than anyone else. What's the point of having more APM if you cant do anything with it? APM for APM Flash is way better than Fantasy. As for strategy innovation all of Fantasy's builds are one trick ponies, Fantasy didn't invent mech vs Z. The bio to mech thing I'm not sure about, maybe that game vs JD on outsider was the first time there was a mech transition. That was a good build I guess. But compare it to how Flash has changed TvP and TvZ and again I would say Flash comes out on top. Look at it this way, Fantasy never initiated a time of terran domination, Flash has.


hi revy!
what about think about it this way: read the post first and make sure your bark is the right bark.
i mentioned APM only, purely, strightly as a FACT. however players use it or succeed with it is outside my point. go see the stats in the Flash vs Fantasy bigfile bo5.

Their pure apm is entirely meaningless and does nothing to further your cause...


another.
man, im saying who has higher APM. i didnt say who was better or GOD! mygad these people!
enough already
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