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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
On August 19 2010 13:21 shadesofkarma wrote: Either way, it was complete rape by flash... not really a close game nor one that I would recommend hardly a standard rape where one player plays like crap completely countering every strategy your opponent throws at you like you saw it coming yesterday is very recommended whatever, game speaks for itself | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On August 19 2010 13:21 Lightwip wrote: No idea how that happened. The first time he did ran up the ramp was crucial, because  Kal had just blundered away two reavers, two shuttles, and several dragoons, and Bisu was understandably feeling ahead. But Bisu sort of under-committed/overcommitted to that attack at the third. He's either got to get his entire army up that ramp, before fighting, or he's got to only send the zealots/shuttle there to harass and feint Kal's army away, and then pressure Kal at his natural with his dragoons. Sure he got some probes, but he lost many more dragoons, and a reaver. Poor trade. I think he also expected to end the game at that point, because he seemed to have gotten a citadel to get speedlots, instead of as a bridge to templars. | ||
Hyde
Australia14568 Posts
On August 19 2010 13:24 dukethegold wrote: Bisu was so damn stubborn with that push up the 3rd. He could plainly see how much reinforcement Kal had and just refused to stop pushing until he loses at least 10 goons and a reaver. Bisu lost his mojo.  Agreed, his reavers were also below ramp in such a position they couldn't fire. After he loses half his army (while they struggle to get up the ramp I might add), he decides to shuttle them into a better position but at that point it was already too late. He lost way too many units there | ||
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FyRe_DragOn
Canada2056 Posts
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Shinshady
Canada1237 Posts
On August 19 2010 13:24 Harem wrote: Reavers are great choices for trying to shoot up ramps, Bisu. Unless your trolling which you maybe, the goons were blocking the ramp and with terrible scarab AI none of the scarabs we're going through. | ||
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Savant
United States379 Posts
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
Dragoons: Transmit Bisu: Good. Now up the small ramp my dragoons! Dragoons: Received Bisu: Up the small ramp my dragoons! For victory shall be mine! Dragoons: Awaiting instructions. Kal: lol | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
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blue_arrow
1971 Posts
i want jaedong + flash + bisu, screw effort | ||
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Shatter
United States1401 Posts
On August 19 2010 13:25 Shinshady wrote: If the goons were blocking the ramp then how did bisu get half his army up it to get destroyed? Unless your trolling which you maybe, the goons were blocking the ramp and with terrible scarab AI none of the scarabs we're going through. | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
On August 19 2010 13:24 .risingdragoon wrote: hardly a standard rape where one player is helpless and/or plays like crap completely countering every strategy your opponent throws at you like you foresaw it coming yesterday on is very recommended Suppose Flash and fantasy switch places... Would you still recommend? Fo realz? Suppose you were watching MVP vs Bogus instead. Still? Rapes shouldn't be recommended, ever, unless it's a complete underdog story, like Yellow vs Bisu, or is so awfully hilarious, like Hyun vs Shuttle. Else, they are just bad games usually. | ||
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integral
United States3156 Posts
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On August 19 2010 13:23 ilj.psa wrote: bisu gamesense is gone It's his decision making which costs him most of his games lately ... his harass while macro trademark is also hardly seen these days ... Kal at least attempted to harass twice that game ... one failed miserably but hey he tried ... Bisu was playing too safe ... you would have thought after he had killed two shuttles, bisu could have tried to push with his army, while harass with 1 reaver at the same time ... that way I seriously believe Kal would have had to GG ... but no, he decided to be a gentleman and let Kal recover from his significant loss to come back and win the game ... Then he decided to filter his army to hell by walking up that ramp one by one ... seeing those goons marching up in line just to get mascaraed by Kal's fire power brought tears to my eyes ... why not the natural expo instead ... the open space is bigger, and he could have at least kill a significant amount of Kal's troops while extending his lead by the faster 4th ... he traded like 30~40 supplies for 3 or 4 goon kills ;/ | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On August 19 2010 13:29 integral wrote: Such a difference in bisu's play in the Ro8 between this year and last year's WCG Korea. Last year bisu played some of the best PvTs I can remember vs flash and was completely dominant PvP. The BW scene has changed so rapidly in the last year. I'm glad Flash and Jaedong have been so constant, the game would be pretty badly hurt if they fell into mediocrity. Exactly. I'd easily rather have Kal in a PvT or PvP, and I wouldn't be too disappointed with him in a PvZ. He's been the best protoss of the last year, although free's been playing well recently, and Stork is always dangerous, but always manages to lose anyway. Bisu's back, but he's a little shaky. On August 19 2010 13:31 nayumi wrote: It's his decision making which costs him most of his games lately ... his harass while macro trademark is also hardly seen these days ... Kal at least attempted to harass twice that game ... one failed miserably but hey he tried ... Bisu was playing too safe ... you would have thought after he had killed two shuttles, bisu could have tried to push with his army, while harass with 1 reaver at the same time ... that way I seriously believe Kal would have had to GG ... but no, he decided to be a gentleman and let Kal recover from his significant loss to come back and win the game ... Then he decided to filter his army to hell by walking up that ramp one by one ... seeing those goons marching up in line just to get mascaraed by Kal's fire power brought tears to my eyes ... why not the natural expo instead ... the open space is bigger, and he could have at least kill a significant amount of Kal's troops while extending his lead by the faster 4th ... he traded like 30~40 supplies for 3 or 4 goon kills ;/ You can't break the natural expo on FS if the toss's army is close in supply to yours and in position. And you certainly can't harass at the same time. He was correct in attacking six, but wrong in his execution. | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
On August 19 2010 13:29 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Suppose Flash and fantasy switch places... Would you still recommend? Fo realz? Suppose you were watching MVP vs Bogus instead. Still? Rapes shouldn't be recommended, ever, unless it's a complete underdog story, like Yellow vs Bisu, or is so awfully hilarious, like Hyun vs Shuttle. Else, they are just bad games usually. a legit air power battle going on through out the game b/w two named pros, 2 of the best terrans at that, fuck yeah I would yellow vs bisu is a strategy win, I don't recommend that unless you're a fan | ||
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squaremanhole
United States82 Posts
On August 19 2010 13:25 Shinshady wrote: Unless your trolling which you maybe, the goons were blocking the ramp and with terrible scarab AI none of the scarabs we're going through. It's called sarcasm................... | ||
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night terrors
China1284 Posts
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integral
United States3156 Posts
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
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