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Garm
Profile Joined June 2010
Norway222 Posts
August 13 2010 10:25 GMT
#321
1 rax cc for both players.
I didn't choose the Terran life. The Terran life chose me. Flash fan 2008 - eternity. FRB 2013! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=321242
FearDarkness
Profile Joined February 2009
United States519 Posts
August 13 2010 10:25 GMT
#322
On August 13 2010 19:24 .risingdragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2010 19:22 Emon_ wrote:
Everyone knows Flash could take down Hiya Boxer-vs-Blindguy style. Flash just stalling for the hell of it


Boxer took down the blindguy by taking off his blindfold and looking. Blind guy would've had him. I like Boxer but he was a fuking cheat that time, and against a blind guy!


Rules allowed Boxer to take blindfold off and Blind guy knew the map by heart and boxer didn't ;P.
Can't spell Voidrays without Idra
Noxide
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2870 Posts
August 13 2010 10:25 GMT
#323
It's like looking into a mirror
Flash ひなの戦争の王である || しかし、実際にはヤフーの ファンタジーサッカー、楽しいプレー私の週末を占めている
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
August 13 2010 10:25 GMT
#324
similar builds..o.o
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
August 13 2010 10:26 GMT
#325
On August 13 2010 19:16 Gustav_Wind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2010 19:12 tree.hugger wrote:
On August 13 2010 19:05 Heimatloser wrote:
2 port doesnt work against hive tech, at least not against a hive tech expert like action.
it was obvious that bloodbath > everything in the air

instead of marines, leta should have made tanks.

Hahah, two port wraith is a one way street. It transitions into bio, and not a lot else.

Also, lol at all the (I'm assuming) Bisu fans suggesting Leta threw that. He may... have gotten completely hard countered on a difficult map with the disadvantageous starting position. But.... HE THREW IT!

Clearly...

I don't think Leta threw it, but what does Dreamliner have to do with it?

Action didn't use mutas, which were the cause of the imba in the first place.

I guess you could argue that the map forced Leta to play predictably. But that hasn't stopped him from winning with the build in the past.

There's usually not just one reason why a map is imbalanced one way or another. And I agree with those who've suggested it's probably better than the statistics show. But sometimes the game itself doesn't have to show imbalance, merely that the perception of the map as difficult already influenced the game from the start.

I suspect Leta would probably have gone two port anyway, but being on Dreamliner, he might have felt that he had to, and Action very clearly assumed it. There are other features to F-D; short rush distance, multiple passages, ect, but I think Leta might have started off from a psychological deficit, which quickly became an in-game disadvantage.
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dnosrc
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany454 Posts
August 13 2010 10:26 GMT
#326
this is a mirror match!
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
August 13 2010 10:27 GMT
#327
Flash opting for 2facts, while Hiya opts for 2 starports.
. . . nevermore
Noxide
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2870 Posts
August 13 2010 10:27 GMT
#328
Finally a divergence Hiya 2 port, Flash adding more facs
Flash ひなの戦争の王である || しかし、実際にはヤフーの ファンタジーサッカー、楽しいプレー私の週末を占めている
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 10:28:45
August 13 2010 10:27 GMT
#329
On August 13 2010 19:25 FearDarkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2010 19:24 .risingdragoon wrote:
On August 13 2010 19:22 Emon_ wrote:
Everyone knows Flash could take down Hiya Boxer-vs-Blindguy style. Flash just stalling for the hell of it


Boxer took down the blindguy by taking off his blindfold and looking. Blind guy would've had him. I like Boxer but he was a fuking cheat that time, and against a blind guy!


Rules allowed Boxer to take blindfold off and Blind guy knew the map by heart and boxer didn't ;P.


There was no such rule. It was a benefit match for a guy who's never even seen the game before, that's just low.

Knew the map by heart... It's was just some common map with 1 elevation.
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Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
August 13 2010 10:27 GMT
#330
flash didnt even scout o.o.

2fact vs 2 star..uh oh
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snapcrackle
Profile Joined December 2008
United States568 Posts
August 13 2010 10:27 GMT
#331
On August 13 2010 19:25 FearDarkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2010 19:24 .risingdragoon wrote:
On August 13 2010 19:22 Emon_ wrote:
Everyone knows Flash could take down Hiya Boxer-vs-Blindguy style. Flash just stalling for the hell of it


Boxer took down the blindguy by taking off his blindfold and looking. Blind guy would've had him. I like Boxer but he was a fuking cheat that time, and against a blind guy!


Rules allowed Boxer to take blindfold off and Blind guy knew the map by heart and boxer didn't ;P.

Still.... he shouldve played like a man and not lift his buildings.
onewingedmoogle
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada434 Posts
August 13 2010 10:27 GMT
#332
he still hasnt scouted.... really wonder if flash has maphacks
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
August 13 2010 10:27 GMT
#333
hiya with 2 port, flash with early armory.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Garm
Profile Joined June 2010
Norway222 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 10:27:57
August 13 2010 10:27 GMT
#334
2 Fact followup from Flash. 2 Port for Hiya! This could get interesting...
I didn't choose the Terran life. The Terran life chose me. Flash fan 2008 - eternity. FRB 2013! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=321242
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
August 13 2010 10:27 GMT
#335
Hiya scouts Flash last , and isn't able to get past the bunker.

Interestingly, Flash has not sent out a scout at all, by the looks of it.
. . . nevermore
Garm
Profile Joined June 2010
Norway222 Posts
August 13 2010 10:28 GMT
#336
Flash knows what's up! Adding armory and academy!
I didn't choose the Terran life. The Terran life chose me. Flash fan 2008 - eternity. FRB 2013! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=321242
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2229 Posts
August 13 2010 10:28 GMT
#337
Flash brain maphax, no scout needing
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
August 13 2010 10:28 GMT
#338
Academy done, scanners building.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
August 13 2010 10:28 GMT
#339
First two wraiths out, Flash already has 4 goliaths.

Adding up to 5fact.
. . . nevermore
Slaynte
Profile Joined April 2010
United States155 Posts
August 13 2010 10:29 GMT
#340
maphacks for sure haha. goes quick armory academy w/o even scoutting.
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