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[OSL] Round of 16 - Day 6

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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 18:24:11
August 13 2010 02:07 GMT
#1
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NOTE: Two players from each of the four groups play their final group games today, with the other two players having played their last games previously on Wednesday the 11th. These are the last games of the group stage, unless there are tiebreakers. The groups are a round-robin format.

***

Tonight's Billing:
(Z)Action < Flight-Dreamliner > (T)Leta
(T)HiyA < Eye of the Storm > (T)Flash
(Z)Hydra < Grand Line SE > (T)Sea
(T)Fantasy < Polaris Rhapsody > (P)Kal

Previews/Predictions:
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Group A:
Playing: (Z)Defiler Kid—(T)Wraith Boy*

This will doubtless be the most anticipated match of the night, even though it is between two players not known for their followings. That's because the fate of two players with larger support; Bisu and EffOrt, rely on a Leta victory in this game. Meanwhile, Action will try to play the spoiler and advance at all odds from a star-studded group.

Fortunately for the other two players, Leta is the favorite here. Action is adept at ZvT, and has put in some memorable performances in the match-up, yet it remains his weakest. On the other hand, Leta excels against zerg, and has recently recaptured his mojo with his signature two-port wraith. Expect it again on Flight-Dreamliner a map defined by its short air and land rush distances. While this map has not been hospitable to terran overall, it has seen terrans take important victories on the map in recent days, and Leta achieved the first TvZ win back in the OSL's earlier stages. Leta is the perfect player to take the fight on this map to the zerg, and will look to do early damage and control the skies. If comes out of the early game behind, however, then Action's impressive hive play will be difficult to overcome. I can't pick against (T)Leta here, and I really want him to win badly, but I don't expect Action to roll over without a fight.

Group Standings
(T)Leta: 2-0
(Z)Action: 1-1
(P)Bisu: 1-2
(Z)EffOrt: 1-2

* Leta needs a nickname. He's really come into his own recently, having to lead Hite through tough times, and regaining his 2009 form, except more experienced and smarter. He's really solid in two match-ups, and pretty good in the other. He seems far and away one of the most mature and comfortable progamers in social situations. I didn't really want to call him "Wraith Boy" but "Wraith Man" sounds silly, and he does still look a little like a kid. I wanted to find a good color to call him like "The ___ Wraith" but while Red is awesome, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense given he's not on STX, and Hite's color is light blue. Suggestions?


Group B:
Playing: (T)Magikarp—(T)The Ultimate Weapon

HiyA was one of the players who took a game from Flash in his infamous ace-match losing streak, and he'll look to repeat the feat again here with his tournament on the line. He's been playing solid, if unflashy TvT of late. Flash, meanwhile, is in a comfortable position, but still must win to avoid a tiebreaker. He has since recovered from his TvT hiccups, and has won five in a row, and eight of ten.

Flash, as ever, remains the obvious choice to win this game and the group. In fact, after watching Flash's clinic against forGG in the MSL it might seem fair to claim that Flash is untouchable at this stage, and can't lose A-class players like HiyA. I'm reluctant to endorse that view completely, as HiyA has been showing real improvement in this match-up, and can threaten Flash if he gets a BO advantage. But that's easier said then done, and I think the map being the boring Eye of the Storm makes it unlikely we'll see any kind of surprising shenanigans here. (T)Flash'll win.

Group Standings
(T)Flash: 2-0
(Z)ZerO: 2-1
(T)HiyA: 1-1
(Z)Hyuk: 0-3


Group C:
Playing: (Z)Hydra the Easily Overlooked—(T)L'enfant Terrible

Credit where credit is due. Hydra has elevated his game quite a bit to reach this point, and can still advance despite being widely considered the one of the worst players in the Round of 16. However, to do that, it'll have to start with an upset against the group leader Sea. TL's favorite Yum Bo Sung is coming off a remarkable win against Jaedong, and looks poised to reach yet another Round of 8. So far this has been one of his all-time best years and seasons as a progamer, and can make it even greater with a win tonight.

Unfortunately for Hydra (and Waxangel) the map is Grand Line, which favors terran, as well as really long drawn out game. This means that Sea is likely to use his beloved mech transition, and Hydra is likely to desperately run his OSL chances headlong into mines like the Titanic into an iceberg. I think Hydra can and will give (T)Sea a bigger fight then most people are expecting, but I think the MBC terran will pull it out. Terran's pretty cost-effective, you know.

Group Standings
(T)Sea: 2-0
(Z)Jaedong: 2-1
(Z)Hydra: 1-1
(P)Pure: 0-3


Group D:
Playing: (T)The Terrorist—(P)The Red Shuttle

Group D was considered the pre-tournament "Group of Death", and it certainly delivered the best games of any group, however there was nothing dramatic about the way it ended up in the end. Free and Stork have already advanced, and played all their games, leaving fantasy and Kal to play for pride in the final match of the Round of 16. (Except for tiebreakers, of course!)

This should be a really fun game though. Both players are experienced, and among the best in their races, despite their results on paper in the OSL. Even better, the map is Polaris Rhapsody, which is a strong map for either player, and a fun map for PvT. Multiple channels for fantasy's vultures, and many openings for Kal's harass. Expect a back and forth game with abundant worker deaths. Expect a close result. I refuse to predict. I love both players. Go (P)Kal! Go (T)Fantasy!

Group Standings
(P)free: 3-0
(P)Stork: 2-1

(T)Fantasy: 0-2
(P)Kal: 0-2


Hoping for good games!


Potential Group Scenarios
+ Show Spoiler +
Stolen Borrowed from MountainDewJunkie

Group A:
Action wins --> Leta and Action advance.
Leta wins --> Leta advances; tiebreakers between Action, Bisu, and Effort are needed to determine the final slot.

Group B:
Flash wins --> Flash and Zero advance.
HiyA --> tiebreakers between Flash, Hiya, and Zero are needed to determine two slots.

Group C:
Sea wins --> Sea and Jaedong advance.
Hydra --> tiebreakers between Sea, Jaedong, and Hydra are needed to determine two slots.

Group D:
Fantasy wins --> Doesn't matter, Stork and Free have already advanced.
Kal wins --> Still doesn't matter.





[image loading]+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler [Group A: Action—Leta] +
(Z)Action < Flight-Dreamliner > (T)Leta
Ah, dammit.

+ Show Spoiler [Group B: HiyA—Flash] +
(T)HiyA < Eye of the Storm > (T)Flash

+ Show Spoiler [Group C: Hydra—Sea] +
(Z)Hydra < Grand Line SE > (T)Sea

+ Show Spoiler [Group D: fantasy—Kal] +
(T)Fantasy < Polaris Rhapsody > (P)Kal


[image loading]+ Show Spoiler +
— - Not recommended
★ - Recommended
★ ★ - Highly Recommended
★ ★ ★ - Watch Now



+ Show Spoiler [Group A: Action—Leta] +
Tight play and a good hard counter. One sided.
—
+ Show Spoiler [Group B: HiyA—Flash] +
One player completely ignores a crucial part of the game, gains decisive advantage.
—
+ Show Spoiler [Group C: Hydra—Sea] +
Some neat mid-game play all goes to waste.
—
+ Show Spoiler [Group D: fantasy—Kal] +
Neat play by one player to shut down harass, but otherwise a lopsided game.
—

Disappointing games. Go watch the forGG/EffOrt series in WCG for some excellent starcraft.

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+ Show Spoiler [Contains Spoilers!] +
On August 13 2010 19:00 Hier wrote:
FUCK YEAH!
+ Show Spoiler +
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**

Flash in the booth, has a hardware issue:
On August 13 2010 19:18 RoieTRS wrote:
"my ruler was calibrated wrong. It's off by half a cm. I cannot continue"
On August 13 2010 19:19 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2010 19:18 nozaro33 wrote:
the booth girl must have accidently bumped something while she was *down* there

Well there's a lot to bump in to.
On August 13 2010 19:20 moopie wrote:
KeSPA rep: "can you hear me now? Good."


**

On August 13 2010 19:46 nozaro33 wrote:
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On August 13 2010 19:45 johanes wrote:
On August 13 2010 19:44 matjlav wrote:
On August 13 2010 19:44 nozaro33 wrote:
On August 13 2010 19:43 revy wrote:
Omg, T is soooo Imba, Hiya didn't stand a chance that game. Flash only won that game because he was terran and they're soooo imba.


you make no sense. Hiya is also Terran


I saw revy's post and I was just waiting for someone to take it seriously.


I saw nozaro33's post and I was just waiting for someone to take it seriously.


lol you people are so ahead of me



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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10348 Posts
August 13 2010 02:15 GMT
#2
Action wins --> Leta and Action advance
Else --> Leta advances; tiebreakers between Action, Bisu, and Effort are needed to determine final slot

Flash wins --> Flash and Zero advance
Else --> tiebreakers between Flash, Hiya, and Zero are needed to determine two slots

Sea wins --> Sea and Jaedong advance
Else --> tiebreakers between Sea, Jaedong, and Hydra are needed to determine two slots

Fantasy wins --> Doesn't matter, Stork and Free have already advanced
Else --> Still doesn't matter
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3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
August 13 2010 02:19 GMT
#3
Just wondering, for the quarterfinals, the 1st places are matched randomly against the 2nd places right?
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
August 13 2010 02:22 GMT
#4
On August 13 2010 11:19 3 Lions wrote:
Just wondering, for the quarterfinals, the 1st places are matched randomly against the 2nd places right?

Yes, only stipulation is that it's somewhere from another group.
Jaedong
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 13 2010 02:26 GMT
#5
Come on, Leta!

You're our only hope for a TaekBangLeeSsang Ro4!
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 02:28:56
August 13 2010 02:28 GMT
#6
Action, Flash, Sea and Kal. Shame about Bisu not going to tie breakers, but its for the best. Can't have Effort's mouse break again.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
TsaoToss
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11 Posts
August 13 2010 02:32 GMT
#7
Hmm are the tiebreakers (if any) also held today?
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
August 13 2010 02:35 GMT
#8
^some other day.
i still remember the dreadful zvz tiebreakers that lasted over a few hours...
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Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
August 13 2010 02:37 GMT
#9
Predicting:

(Z)Action > (T)Leta
(T)HiyA < (T)Flash
(Z)Hydra < (T)Sea
(T)Fantasy > (P)Kal

synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 13 2010 03:12 GMT
#10
So many possible (albeit unlikely) tiebreakers... I really want Bisu to advance, so hopefully Leta doesn't choke and we can see infinity tiebreakers like last [OSL/MSL?].
:)
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
August 13 2010 03:16 GMT
#11
On August 13 2010 11:07 tree.hugger wrote:
Leta wins --> Leta advances; tiebreakers between Action, Bisu, and Effort are needed to determine the final slot.

You can do it leta... give bisu another chance :3
( ・´ー・`)
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
August 13 2010 03:25 GMT
#12
action, flash, sea, fantasy is both what i'm hoping for and predicting
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bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
August 13 2010 03:39 GMT
#13
On August 13 2010 12:12 synapse wrote:
So many possible (albeit unlikely) tiebreakers... I really want Bisu to advance, so hopefully Leta doesn't choke and we can see infinity tiebreakers like last [OSL/MSL?].


OSL only, MSL doesn't have the round robin format so they can't possibly have tie-breakers.

I wonder how much chicken is being thrown around as incentives.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
August 13 2010 03:43 GMT
#14
Go (Z)Action, (T)HiyA, (T)Sea, (P)Kal!

I'll stream if no one else is, but I shall wait first.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
August 13 2010 03:45 GMT
#15
gogo leta and sea XD
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
SkyLegenD
Profile Joined February 2010
United States304 Posts
August 13 2010 03:54 GMT
#16
Leta and Sea fighting
"Victory belongs to the most persevering." - Napoleon Bonaparte
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 04:04:36
August 13 2010 04:04 GMT
#17
Finished the predictions.

Leta needs a nickname. He's really come into his own recently, having to lead Hite through tough times, and regaining his 2009 form, except more experienced and smarter. He's really solid in two match-ups, and pretty good in the other. He seems far and away one of the most mature and comfortable progamers in social situations. I didn't really want to call him "Wraith Boy" but "Wraith Man" sounds silly, and he does still look a little like a kid. I wanted to find a good color to call him like "The ___ Wraith" but while Red is awesome, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense given he's not on STX, and Hite's color is light blue. Suggestions?
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Housemd
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1407 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 04:19:51
August 13 2010 04:09 GMT
#18
On August 13 2010 13:04 tree.hugger wrote:
Finished the predictions.

Leta needs a nickname. He's really come into his own recently, having to lead Hite through tough times, and regaining his 2009 form, except more experienced and smarter. He's really solid in two match-ups, and pretty good in the other. He seems far and away one of the most mature and comfortable progamers in social situations. I didn't really want to call him "Wraith Boy" but "Wraith Man" sounds silly, and he does still look a little like a kid. I wanted to find a good color to call him like "The ___ Wraith" but while Red is awesome, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense given he's not on STX, and Hite's color is light blue. Suggestions?



the sparks/sparky wraith?


maybe the yellow wraith??? representing the yellow logo for hite.
Fantasy is a beast
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
August 13 2010 04:29 GMT
#19
Leta's nickname should be The Thousand Paper Cuts.
Or miracle wraith.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 04:41:25
August 13 2010 04:40 GMT
#20
I hope Leta wins just so Effort can go through another tiebreaker.

Predictions

Action<Leta
Flash>Hiya
Hydra<Sea
Fantasy<Kal
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