NOTE: Each series is a Bo3, The players have each played the first game of the series. Tonight, five of the eight series will conclude with a second (and possibly a third) game. The other three series will wrap up on the 31st. These five series contain players who are on STX and SKT T1 and will be playing in the proleague semi-finals on that date.
Tonight's Billing: (Results of the first game are listed at the top.)
Not sure, stream died halfway into game and when it came back the loser GGed. Before that the game was completely standard so watch if you have time I guess.
WATCH THIS GAME! Easily game of the night by a huge, huge margin. Amazing and extremely intense back and forth. Some stubbornness from the loser but the winner definitely came back from behind.
On July 31 2010 17:21 B1nary wrote: I haven't been keeping up with maps very well lately. What's with those neutral arbiters on this map? Can you mind control them?
You can mind control them, but their main purpose is to cloak those lurker eggs blocking the expansions. Workers can mineral walk through the eggs to get a safe early expansion, but the arbiter and the eggs have to be killed before anything else can get through
Violet with 2gate then robo after range, also setting up his 3rd Nexus.
Flash with 2fact before acad/ebay, since he got the scout off.
Reaver mostly getting denied, and Violet's in a really bad position being down 2 bases to Flash's 3 now. Goliaths out now for Flash--reaver only got 1 SCV kill.
Violet using an elevator trick to ferry his army out of the contain and into the center of the map, Flash doesn't see it yet but has a tank sieged in his nat ready.
Flash now spots the elevator trick as a huge army barrels down on his nat, now Violet moving back to come pincer the contain.
Flash walling Violet's ramp with depots on the low ground, lol.
Shuttle with zealot drop is horribly timed . . . Violet's pincer might work but he's taking huge amounts of damage doing it. Yeah, violet breaks it but at a huge cost.
Will I be able to watch streams (i.e. ustream or livestream) after FroYo comes out for Droid X? It would probably destroy my sleep time, but I might decide to stay up for a few potentially epic matches later on.
On July 31 2010 17:33 TheNessman wrote: At least it wasn't rape like we thought it was gonna be... i stand by that.
On July 31 2010 17:33 TheNessman wrote: Much closer game than we thought it was gonna be
ah yeah, what game were you watching? flash totally dominated from start to finish. It just takes a bit longer 14 cc vs 12 nex. oh and stop saying "we", it's your opinion and you're not in politics
Who's voting no to recommended? Sure, it was one-sided, but Flash's strategy was pretty unique/interesting, and both players played at a really high level, except for a single shuttle mismicro from violet.
Violet made a few cute maneuvers with reavers, shuttles, and backstab threats, but Flash was firmly in control of that game from the very start and never let go. I wouldn't recommend it, though there was some nice vulture micro and some crazy multitasking involved at a few points.
On July 31 2010 17:35 Gustav_Wind wrote: Who's voting no to recommended? Sure, it was one-sided, but Flash's strategy was pretty unique/interesting, and both players played at a really high level, except for a single shuttle mismicro from violet.
Definitely a better watch than most games imo.
I agree. There were a few down moments, but there was a bunch of intense battles that weren't so big you loose track of the scale. a bunch of tricks too.
Violet is soo happy, because he knows Flash ultimately has better chances of winning the entire MSL, also glad because there's no more pressure of playing a teamkill match
On July 31 2010 17:38 darktreb wrote: Haha wow so if Bisu had advanced (assuming Roro loses later) then we would have gotten Flash vs Bisu bo5 in the ro8....
On July 31 2010 17:36 d_so wrote: man if he had just built two cannons at his 3 oclock violet could have.. maybe not won, but an already entertaining game would have gone a lot longer
All that would have done is kept it 3 base vs 3 base in PvT where T is Flash. Yeah maybe it would have lasted a tiny bit longer but the next game Flash kills P's 3rd and is on even bases or up a base the entire game and then still loses will be the first.
On July 31 2010 17:36 d_so wrote: man if he had just built two cannons at his 3 oclock violet could have.. maybe not won, but an already entertaining game would have gone a lot longer
All that would have done is kept it 3 base vs 3 base in PvT where T is Flash. Yeah maybe it would have lasted a tiny bit longer but the next game Flash kills P's 3rd and is on even bases or up a base the entire game and then still loses will be the first.
no way, he just cleared his natural plus he had already started his expansion at 4 oclock, that would have made it 5v3
On July 31 2010 17:38 darktreb wrote: Haha wow so if Bisu had advanced (assuming Roro loses later) then we would have gotten Flash vs Bisu bo5 in the ro8....
With how Bisu has been playing PvT, it'd probably be a pretty uninteresting matchup to be honest, especially against someone like Flash.
On July 31 2010 17:38 darktreb wrote: Haha wow so if Bisu had advanced (assuming Roro loses later) then we would have gotten Flash vs Bisu bo5 in the ro8....
With how Bisu has been playing PvT, it'd probably be a pretty uninteresting matchup to be honest, especially against someone like Flash.
itd likely be a pretty uninteresting match if any protoss plays flash atm
On July 31 2010 17:38 darktreb wrote: Haha wow so if Bisu had advanced (assuming Roro loses later) then we would have gotten Flash vs Bisu bo5 in the ro8....
With how Bisu has been playing PvT, it'd probably be a pretty uninteresting matchup to be honest, especially against someone like Flash.
Probably but it's one of those matchups that gets your hopes up no matter what the circumstances, kind of like Bisu vs Savior did once upon a time.
Flash vs Bisu BoX has always delivered. Oh well, until next time.
On July 31 2010 17:47 Holgerius wrote: 14 CC has seriously become the standard build lately.
I am not really surprised. Triathlon is a large map with a safe backdoor. 12 hatch would probably be the best choice for Zergs. Of course that is a gamble but the rush distance is pretty long to do anything with a pool first opening.
Effort finally produces a few mutas as Midas' push is almost at his front door. Effort spamming sunks as much as possibly, though Midas has a tank about to siege up.
On July 31 2010 17:47 Holgerius wrote: 14 CC has seriously become the standard build lately.
I am not really surprised. Triathlon is a large map with a safe backdoor. 12 hatch would probably be the best choice for Zergs. Of course that is a gamble but the rush distance is pretty long to do anything with a pool first opening.
Yeah 9 pool is a gamble as it is but it just gets that much bigger when Terran gets a backdoor expo and can potentially expo AND wall-off.
REALLY nice decision making from effort. Laying down a swarm there would have been suicidal since it would have let the bats run in and slaughter lings without the help of the sunks
On July 31 2010 18:39 mikku wrote: I wasn't getting ads on UStream the other day, but I suddenly am again. Did they change something? How can I block again?
update your adblocker... I dont get any... omg ustream lags hard for me
Fight near 3. Plague goes off on a bunch of marines, Vessels all plagued again. Lurkers run into Light's base below 3, burrow near factories and start attacking scvs.
2 dropship drop at 7. Lings and defiler defend. Swarm goes off, Light backs up and kills all defending zerglings. Another swarm and a handful of more lings clean up the drop.
hm. Roro was at like a huuge advantage midgame, when he had so many expos and was really defending well. For some reason, he seemed hell bent on winning with lurkers, hence the +3 ranged attack, but at a cost of his melee attack being behind. Had he gotten Ultras slightly after that... he could have won that handily.
Heartbreaking for roro, nice game overall. And yeah as someone said before:
Flash v fOrGG (Flash is gonna team-kill 2 teammates to Ro4?) Calm vs fantasy EffOrt vs Light (EffOrt's worst MU, even tho he kills Flash. Light's best MU, but it is solo league...) Jaedong vs Sea
On July 31 2010 19:19 bokchoi wrote: Heartbreaking for roro, nice game overall. And yeah as someone said before:
Flash v fOrGG (Flash is gonna team-kill 2 teammates to Ro4?) Calm vs fantasy EffOrt vs Light (EffOrt's worst MU, even tho he kills Flash. Light's best MU, but it is solo league...) Jaedong vs Sea
Ro8: 5 T, 3 Z (1 TvT, 3 TvZ) ..
jaedong v sea / effort v light looks really sick, cant wait for these matches
So Flash has now equal amount of wins against P as Jaedong even though he started playing a year later.
Damn it, the bracketing sucks for KT. I hope that Flash beats Forgg. I really want to see yet again Flash vs Jaedong final (preferably both in OSL and MSL )
Flash tends to be playing teammates a lot nowadays...
Then there's also the epic (or not so epic) match of FANTASY v. CALM (CLAM). Epic lulz and tiebreaker flashbacks galore.
Light got another zerg again-Effort. And Effort's ZvT isn't superb while Light's TvZ is. Even more lucky for Light, he's dodged all protosses whatsoever now that there's no P's in the Ro8.
Lastly, Jaedong v. Sea again. With both the OSL and the MSL now, the two seem to be meeting one another alot lately.
On August 01 2010 03:38 Apex wrote: Flash tends to be playing teammates a lot nowadays...
Then there's also the epic (or not so epic) match of FANTASY v. CALM (CLAM). Epic lulz and tiebreaker flashbacks galore.
Light got another zerg again-Effort. And Effort's ZvT isn't superb while Light's TvZ is. Even more lucky for Light, he's dodged all protosses whatsoever now that there's no P's in the Ro8.
Lastly, Jaedong v. Sea again. With both the OSL and the MSL now, the two seem to be meeting one another alot lately.
Well, Light did beat Kal in round of 32, which is pretty big. Also Effort's ZvT can be superb, it's just very inconsistent. I wouldn't be shocked if Effort won the series.
On August 01 2010 03:38 Apex wrote: Flash tends to be playing teammates a lot nowadays...
Then there's also the epic (or not so epic) match of FANTASY v. CALM (CLAM). Epic lulz and tiebreaker flashbacks galore.
Light got another zerg again-Effort. And Effort's ZvT isn't superb while Light's TvZ is. Even more lucky for Light, he's dodged all protosses whatsoever now that there's no P's in the Ro8.
Lastly, Jaedong v. Sea again. With both the OSL and the MSL now, the two seem to be meeting one another alot lately.
Well, Light did beat Kal in round of 32, which is pretty big. Also Effort's ZvT can be superb, it's just very inconsistent. I wouldn't be shocked if Effort won the series.
Also Effort should have more experience with regards to Bo5 than Light. Did Light ever played bo5?
On August 01 2010 03:38 Apex wrote: Flash tends to be playing teammates a lot nowadays...
Then there's also the epic (or not so epic) match of FANTASY v. CALM (CLAM). Epic lulz and tiebreaker flashbacks galore.
Light got another zerg again-Effort. And Effort's ZvT isn't superb while Light's TvZ is. Even more lucky for Light, he's dodged all protosses whatsoever now that there's no P's in the Ro8.
Lastly, Jaedong v. Sea again. With both the OSL and the MSL now, the two seem to be meeting one another alot lately.
Well, Light did beat Kal in round of 32, which is pretty big. Also Effort's ZvT can be superb, it's just very inconsistent. I wouldn't be shocked if Effort won the series.
Also Effort should have more experience with regards to Bo5 than Light. Did Light ever played bo5?
ForGG vs Flash is going to be hard for me to watch. I just hope ForGG doesn't take it too hard if he loses. He also has to prepare for the WCG against Movie, and I don't think he will beat Movie either.
I do think Sea has a very good chance to upset Jaedong.
On August 01 2010 03:38 Apex wrote: Flash tends to be playing teammates a lot nowadays...
Then there's also the epic (or not so epic) match of FANTASY v. CALM (CLAM). Epic lulz and tiebreaker flashbacks galore.
Light got another zerg again-Effort. And Effort's ZvT isn't superb while Light's TvZ is. Even more lucky for Light, he's dodged all protosses whatsoever now that there's no P's in the Ro8.
Lastly, Jaedong v. Sea again. With both the OSL and the MSL now, the two seem to be meeting one another alot lately.
Well, Light did beat Kal in round of 32, which is pretty big. Also Effort's ZvT can be superb, it's just very inconsistent. I wouldn't be shocked if Effort won the series.
Also Effort should have more experience with regards to Bo5 than Light. Did Light ever played bo5?
Lost 1-3 to Kal and GOM 4 if I recall. Can't remember other bo5s, but I am pretty sure he has not won one.