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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
July 25 2010 07:24 GMT
#2141
On July 25 2010 16:22 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 16:21 Batisterio-PiB wrote:
On July 25 2010 16:20 Spyfire242 wrote:
CJ vs SKT1 was the finals.


KT is the favorite over any team atm

No damn way. Not over SKT, not over CJ. Not in their current form.


You mean having four people in the Top 16 of the MSL? 3 of them winning and the only one who lost was in a match against his own teammate?

KT will be just fine.

Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Paddington
Profile Joined May 2008
Australia254 Posts
July 25 2010 07:24 GMT
#2142
You really can't help but wonder, why no storms in PvT? He's so efficient with them in the other two matchups
"A friend of mine walks around the city counting Asian male/white female couples, which he gives +10 score, and white male/Asian female couples, which he gives -1 score. At the end of the day, the score is always negative. It makes him sad"
nextstep
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada705 Posts
July 25 2010 07:24 GMT
#2143
On July 25 2010 16:22 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 16:21 Batisterio-PiB wrote:
On July 25 2010 16:20 Spyfire242 wrote:
CJ vs SKT1 was the finals.


KT is the favorite over any team atm

No damn way. Not over SKT, not over CJ. Not in their current form.


KT is legit.

still, go SKT!
go KHAN! TBLS <3
sva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States747 Posts
July 25 2010 07:25 GMT
#2144
someone translate the bisu interview.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
July 25 2010 07:25 GMT
#2145
On July 25 2010 16:22 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 16:21 Batisterio-PiB wrote:
On July 25 2010 16:20 Spyfire242 wrote:
CJ vs SKT1 was the finals.


KT is the favorite over any team atm

No damn way. Not over SKT, not over CJ. Not in their current form.


You don;t know in what form Flash is. If his form is good than KT is a damn formidable opponents since Flash will have a support of Stats Violet and Frogg and a P sniper HoeJJa. And yesterday was a good show from KT players.

I think it will be quite even of SKT advances to the final
kmdarkmaster
Profile Joined January 2010
France188 Posts
July 25 2010 07:25 GMT
#2146
Best's PvT is always massive army of goon zeal and arbiters with +2 bases more than Terran.
Storm isn't needed.
Please Bisu learn from Best.
Kim Taek Yong fighting !!!
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7827 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 07:26:24
July 25 2010 07:25 GMT
#2147
On July 25 2010 16:21 cascades wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 16:19 KwarK wrote:
On July 25 2010 16:18 eshlow wrote:
On July 25 2010 16:17 KwarK wrote:
The guy is a PvP sniper but he can macro.


If only Bisu played PvT like he plays his PvT... -_-

I think the problem is that he does.


Disregarding the fact that PvT = PvT, Bisu's problem with PvT compared to PvP is the fact that he takes way too long to expand. In PvP, equal bases is okay, while in PvT, slightly faster 3rds and 4ths are not.

The second Bisu tried to take another expo Midas just would have pushed with his eco huge army thanks to the fast 3rd. There was a reason Bisu massed gates on 3 bases as opposed to expanding quickly.

On July 25 2010 16:22 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 16:21 Batisterio-PiB wrote:
On July 25 2010 16:20 Spyfire242 wrote:
CJ vs SKT1 was the finals.


KT is the favorite over any team atm

No damn way. Not over SKT, not over CJ. Not in their current form.

Disagree, look at KT in the MSL, 4 of our best players all doing well. If Bisu just lost to Midas I wonder what will happen against Flash... let alone Fantasy is always losing to Flash in important games.

The only real question is Flash's form. The team behind him is looking sharper than in R5
dtnmang
Profile Joined April 2010
Vietnam752 Posts
July 25 2010 07:26 GMT
#2148
Is it me or SKT's run to the final gets easier by the day - CJ was hard, then FOX was easy. And now STX.
KT Roflster - the lulziest team of Proleague.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43591 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 07:28:10
July 25 2010 07:27 GMT
#2149
On July 25 2010 16:25 kmdarkmaster wrote:
Best's PvT is always massive army of goon zeal and arbiters with +2 bases more than Terran.
Storm isn't needed.
Please Bisu learn from Best.
Kim Taek Yong fighting !!!

Best's PvT is also outdated. Arbiters aren't enough anymore and they haven't been ever since Terrans combined rushing to 3-3 with solid recall defence and a lot of EMP.

You need to mix in storms to break a big push and carriers to break a corner camp.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
July 25 2010 07:27 GMT
#2150
On July 25 2010 16:25 kmdarkmaster wrote:
Best's PvT is always massive army of goon zeal and arbiters with +2 bases more than Terran.
Storm isn't needed.
Please Bisu learn from Best.
Kim Taek Yong fighting !!!


BeSt's PvT consists of flanks.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
sva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States747 Posts
July 25 2010 07:27 GMT
#2151
fantasy's fingers look so gross.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
July 25 2010 07:28 GMT
#2152
Translation of Bisu's winner interview:

Bisu: "I think the reason I have such an easy time beating Pure is that he has only one earring while I have two..."
"... and because I am better at StarCraft, LOL"
"ahahaha sorry... how am I so funny... anyway, yeah, I stormed all his templar"
"... and then he couldn't storm me back, because all his templar were dead"
"This relates to what I was saying earlier, about him being worse at StarCraft than me."
"lol."
"Also, his build order sucked."
"If I had to summarize that game, I would have to say that the best man won. And by best, I mean best-looking."
"...That's me, by the way."
"Thank you."
May the BeSt man win.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 07:31:34
July 25 2010 07:29 GMT
#2153
Ugh, infinite number of PvPs incoming from STX vs SKT1. . .

Might get a Bisu vs Zerg though
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
July 25 2010 07:29 GMT
#2154
On July 25 2010 16:25 Vasoline73 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 16:21 cascades wrote:
On July 25 2010 16:19 KwarK wrote:
On July 25 2010 16:18 eshlow wrote:
On July 25 2010 16:17 KwarK wrote:
The guy is a PvP sniper but he can macro.


If only Bisu played PvT like he plays his PvT... -_-

I think the problem is that he does.


Disregarding the fact that PvT = PvT, Bisu's problem with PvT compared to PvP is the fact that he takes way too long to expand. In PvP, equal bases is okay, while in PvT, slightly faster 3rds and 4ths are not.

The second Bisu tried to take another expo Midas just would have pushed with his eco huge army thanks to the fast 3rd. There was a reason Bisu massed gates on 3 bases as opposed to expanding quickly.

Actually he took his 4th pretty quick, he was just suuuuperslow on taking his 5th, and he lost it like just as it had finished.
God Hates a Coward
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
July 25 2010 07:29 GMT
#2155
On July 25 2010 13:45 Kuja900 wrote:
If wemade loses this series 4-3 im blaming mind


Quoting myself fuck you mind you used to be my favorite terran 2 years ago
OMG you nasty gurl
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
July 25 2010 07:30 GMT
#2156
On July 25 2010 16:27 Nitan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 16:25 kmdarkmaster wrote:
Best's PvT is always massive army of goon zeal and arbiters with +2 bases more than Terran.
Storm isn't needed.
Please Bisu learn from Best.
Kim Taek Yong fighting !!!


BeSt's PvT consists of flanks. 1a2a3a4a5a.... running out of hotkeys, I'll just draw boxes around them

[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
July 25 2010 07:30 GMT
#2157
On July 25 2010 16:28 Djabanete wrote:
Translation of Bisu's winner interview:

Bisu: "I think the reason I have such an easy time beating Pure is that he has only one earring while I have two..."
"... and because I am better at StarCraft, LOL"
"ahahaha sorry... how am I so funny... anyway, yeah, I stormed all his templar"
"... and then he couldn't storm me back, because all his templar were dead"
"This relates to what I was saying earlier, about him being worse at StarCraft than me."
"lol."
"Also, his build order sucked."
"If I had to summarize that game, I would have to say that the best man won. And by best, I mean best-looking."
"...That's me, by the way."
"Thank you."


Is this for real... lol
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
July 25 2010 07:30 GMT
#2158
On July 25 2010 16:27 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 16:25 kmdarkmaster wrote:
Best's PvT is always massive army of goon zeal and arbiters with +2 bases more than Terran.
Storm isn't needed.
Please Bisu learn from Best.
Kim Taek Yong fighting !!!

Best's PvT is also outdated. Arbiters aren't enough anymore and they haven't been ever since Terrans combined rushing to 3-3 with solid recall defence and a lot of EMP.

You need to mix in storms to break a big push and carriers to break a corner camp.

good point kwark, but best's style works well on maps with a third that's not as easy to defend as it is on fighting spirit. why? because best relies on economic and macro advantage to attack the terran in some form around mid-late game. thus the whole terran rhythm is disrupted at that point and best rides it to victory. doing this also creates more holes for recall. but on fighting spirit, yes, the arbiter/zealot-goon is not good. storms are a must. terran can literally set a perfect defense vs arbiter recalls and slowly move out.
scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
July 25 2010 07:31 GMT
#2159
Man I feel bad for wemade but you can't idle your group of templars when faced with a large army at your front door.

Ah well, next year perhaps for Pure.

IMO KT is looking legitimately good now. Maybe not during R5 but now Flash's support seems to be capable enough.
Masheyoon
Profile Joined October 2009
United States781 Posts
July 25 2010 07:31 GMT
#2160
On July 25 2010 16:28 Djabanete wrote:
Translation of Bisu's winner interview:

Bisu: "I think the reason I have such an easy time beating Pure is that he has only one earring while I have two..."
"... and because I am better at StarCraft, LOL"
"ahahaha sorry... how am I so funny... anyway, yeah, I stormed all his templar"
"... and then he couldn't storm me back, because all his templar were dead"
"This relates to what I was saying earlier, about him being worse at StarCraft than me."
"lol."
"Also, his build order sucked."
"If I had to summarize that game, I would have to say that the best man won. And by best, I mean best-looking."
"...That's me, by the way."
"Thank you."


Is this... the actual translation...? >_>
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