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[SPL] Playoffs - SK Telecom T1 vs CJ Entus, Day 1 - Page 65

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dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
July 17 2010 06:32 GMT
#1281
Skyhigh has not played a TvT for a while now.

Fantasy is still the world's 2nd best Terran. Let's not forget.
Housemd
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1407 Posts
July 17 2010 06:32 GMT
#1282
On July 17 2010 15:29 yanmaodao wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 15:26 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On July 17 2010 15:24 JodoYodo wrote:
On July 17 2010 15:24 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On July 17 2010 15:23 moopie wrote:
On July 17 2010 15:22 Tuke wrote:
(T)Fantasy vs (T)sKyHigh next?

Seems likely. Meaning CJ wins.

can someone fill me in on why everyone favors Skyhigh over Fantasy?

Skyhigh was genetically altered as a fetus to be the ultimate TvT player.

Oh for some reason I thought he was the terran that was only good vs. toss. I must have confused him with... uh.. forget who.

Still, Fantasy is 8-2 last 10 vs Terran. Should be an awesome game even if Skyhigh is 3-0 vs Fantasy all time.


Really, maybe? His TvT is nothing special besides that one win against Flash. His TvZ is <40%. It's not a small sample size, either. He just really, really blows chunks against Zerg.

MVP might be the other one you were thinking of.



Uhm...Fantasy beat Flash, Hiya, and Light, all formidable opponents in the vs t matchup. Also, his tvz is not less than 40%, its actually greater than 50%.
Fantasy is a beast
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
July 17 2010 06:32 GMT
#1283
C'mon fantasy!! Show us your game stamina, 1 hr long TvT with sKyhigh incoming?
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
July 17 2010 06:32 GMT
#1284
I feel sick.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
July 17 2010 06:32 GMT
#1285
On July 17 2010 15:27 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 15:24 cascades wrote:
On July 17 2010 15:22 Zona wrote:
On July 17 2010 15:21 Shatter wrote:
Lol everyone was saying how solid SKT zerg was and now their own fans calling Hyuk "trash"

read more closely. we don't like his build, that's all
and I would have expected the coaches to dictated the opening builds.


His build was trash. The same 10 hatch in base build that loses to everything. He has never won a game with that build. To be fair, I don't think anyne has for monhts either. That build autoloses to opponents who get enough lings to avoid a ling break.


This speaks how much you know about ZvZ . First that was a 12 hatch in base which isn't a trash build Jaedong has used it before several times and i don't remember him losing the game with it .


When?
I always see Jaedong 12 hatch to nat. The times he goes in-base hatch were like last season. I remember a game on outsider vs Yarnc but he started off with like 9pool or overpool or something. Then, in the finals, I remember he 10hatched vs Yarnc, but iirc that was still to nat. =/
darkness overpowering
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
July 17 2010 06:32 GMT
#1286
Skyhigh with faster supply depot.

BO advantage right there
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
July 17 2010 06:33 GMT
#1287
skyhigh's rax a split second earlier
both players rax-gas
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
July 17 2010 06:33 GMT
#1288
Fantasy is the #2 terran in the world, I don't know why people try to dispute that. Skyhigh is pretty bad but his TvT OMGOMGOMGOMG
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Shatter
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1401 Posts
July 17 2010 06:33 GMT
#1289
On July 17 2010 15:31 tree.hugger wrote:
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On July 17 2010 15:25 yanmaodao wrote:
Skyhigh vs. Fantasy, a coin flip.

Effort, get your ZvP ready. Even if Skyhigh loses, he hopefully tires Fantasy enough so that it's obvious what SKT's ace choice will be.

It's really funny, actually, because I would've said these two players were the two I'd have bet on to play the ace match. But because they're playing in the last set, I'm not so sure.

(T)Fantasy v. (T)sKyHigh on Fortress. Should be fun!
Nah Effort too solid vs SKT1. >70% vP, 16-1 in his last vZ and even if he played fantasy, both their worst MU
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
July 17 2010 06:33 GMT
#1290
Come on Skyhigh take this!
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
zerodahero
Profile Joined December 2009
United States358 Posts
July 17 2010 06:33 GMT
#1291
On July 17 2010 15:32 nayumi wrote:
Skyhigh with faster supply depot.

BO advantage right there


looking grim for skt already
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
July 17 2010 06:33 GMT
#1292
Little boy with I Love CJ flag.

Sorry man, Fantasy got this. I hope.
MrStorkie
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom697 Posts
July 17 2010 06:33 GMT
#1293
gonna take a dump first.. this game is gonna drag on forever
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
July 17 2010 06:33 GMT
#1294
On July 17 2010 15:32 dukethegold wrote:
Skyhigh has not played a TvT for a while now.

Fantasy is still the world's 2nd best Terran. Let's not forget.

Skyhigh has DEMOLISHED Flash on this map.
What makes you think that Fantasy is gonna do better? Being better at TvP and gimmicky TvZ builds?
In the woods, there lurks..
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 06:34:16
July 17 2010 06:33 GMT
#1295
On (Z)July 17 2010 15:32 Housemd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On (Z)July 17 2010 15:29 yanmaodao wrote:
On (Z)July 17 2010 15:26 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On (Z)July 17 2010 15:24 JodoYodo wrote:
On (Z)July 17 2010 15:24 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On (Z)July 17 2010 15:23 moopie wrote:
On (Z)July 17 2010 15:22 Tuke wrote:
(T)Fantasy vs (T)sKyHigh next?

Seems likely. Meaning CJ wins.

can someone fill me in on why everyone favors (T)sKyHigh over (T)Fantasy?

(T)sKyHigh was genetically altered as a fetus to be the ultimate TvT player.

Oh for some (Z)ReasoN I thought he was the terran that was (T)Only good vs. toss. I must have confused him with... uh.. forget who.

Still, (T)Fantasy is 8-2 (T)Last 10 vs Terran. Should be an awesome (T)Game even if (T)sKyHigh is 3-0 vs (T)Fantasy all time.


(T)Really, maybe? His TvT is nothing (T)Special besides that one against (T)Flash. His TvZ is <40%. It's not a (P)SMall sample size, either. He (Z)Just (T)Really, (T)Really blows chunks against Zerg.

(T)MVP might be the other one you were thinking of.



Uhm...(T)Fantasy beat (T)Flash, (T)HiyA, and (T)Light, all formidable opponents in the vs t matchup. Also, his tvz is not less than 40%, its (P)Actually greater than 50%.

Except, the post you just quoted was about (T)Really.

EDIT: silly tlpd-ize
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
July 17 2010 06:33 GMT
#1296
skyhigh scouting wrong, fantasy scouting right

wow, young cj fan in the audience with a lovely banner
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
InTheFade
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1721 Posts
July 17 2010 06:33 GMT
#1297
Even if you don't like TvT, you've got to at least like TvT on this particular map.
... Knowmsayin'?
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
July 17 2010 06:33 GMT
#1298
Where's that fantasy flow chart? The one that lists his build orders all pointing to vultures doing damage. So true =)
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
July 17 2010 06:34 GMT
#1299
On July 17 2010 15:32 dukethegold wrote:
Skyhigh has not played a TvT for a while now.

Fantasy is still the world's 2nd best Terran. Let's not forget.

It's a push. Both have phenomenal TvT.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
July 17 2010 06:34 GMT
#1300
both players starting their first factories, skyhigh with one scv on gas - didn't see for fantasy
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
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