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disciple
9070 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i48.tinypic.com/2ce51ec.jpg) 2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 5 Week 2 (MBC), SK Telecom T1 vs CJ Entus ![[image loading]](http://i49.tinypic.com/33y6pmr.jpg) Set 1: Grand Line SE Set 2: Judgment Day Set 3: Match Point Set 4: Fighting Spirit Ace: Polaris Rhapsody ![[image loading]](http://i42.tinypic.com/2dvsjvc.jpg) + Show Spoiler +Game 1 : winner dominates, nothing worth watching Game 2: ok game, watch it if you have spare time Game 3 : some high caliber players facing each other, winner dominates, watch if you have spare time How To Watch http://tv.zeroboy.net/kentor http://www.ustream.tv/channel/hateplow | ||
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disciple
9070 Posts
Poll: Who are you rooting for? T1 (98) CJ (79) 177 total votes Your vote: Who are you rooting for? Poll: Who is going to win CJ (86) T1 (67) 153 total votes Your vote: Who is going to win | ||
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
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dani_caliKorea
730 Posts
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KristianJS
2107 Posts
On June 04 2010 22:30 dani_caliKorea wrote: Hyuk > Effort Ace match. Seconding this!  | ||
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
On June 04 2010 22:08 SuperArc wrote: Snow vs fantasy please! omg i cant miss that | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5595 Posts
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
hyuk > effort always :D | ||
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LuDwig-
Italy1143 Posts
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shalafi
394 Posts
 And yes, Snow vs Fantasy, make it happen! Remember that we'll probably get Snow vs Fantasy on the MST too. | ||
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
will bisu pull a no-show again? | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
Fantasy > Skyhigh Best > Snow s2 < Effort Hyuk < Movie Bisu > Effort | ||
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vance
Thailand118 Posts
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Qwertify
United States2531 Posts
Give us Neo-Bisu versus Neo-Bisu!!!!!!! | ||
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nurle
Norway308 Posts
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Qwertify
United States2531 Posts
On June 05 2010 00:59 Djabanete wrote: Fantasy < Skyhigh Best < Snow s2 > Effort Bisu > Movie Bisu <> Snow FIXED | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
fixed | ||
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HnR)hT
United States3468 Posts
Movie > Best Iris > Fantasy Humiliation time >  | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
Fixed'd | ||
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arbiter_md
Moldova1219 Posts
skyhigh > huyk effort > fantasy Easy win for better team. | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
+ Show Spoiler +  Snow < Grand Line SE >  fantasy EffOrt < Judgment Day > BeStBByong < Match Point > BisuMovie < Fighting Spirit > Hyuk | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
On June 05 2010 02:47 tree.hugger wrote: Line-up Predictions/Wants: + Show Spoiler + Snow < Grand Line SE > fantasyEffOrt < Judgment Day > BeStBByong < Match Point > BisuMovie < Fighting Spirit > HyukI doubt they will play BByong. CJ needs to solidify a spot in the playoffs...they can't risk sending him out.Effort Snow Movie Iris/Skyhigh is my prediciton | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On June 05 2010 02:58 Megalisk wrote: I doubt they will play BByong. CJ needs to solidify a spot in the playoffs...they can't risk sending him out.Effort Snow Movie Iris/Skyhigh is my prediciton Trust me in Tv P/Z Bbyong isnt worse than Skyhigh... But if BByong gets played its on Grand Line anyway. | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
On June 05 2010 03:00 SuperArc wrote: Trust me in Tv P/Z Bbyong isnt worse than Skyhigh... But if BByong gets played its on Grand Line anyway. Yeah but SKT is more likely to send a terran on Grand Line, so Skyhigh is the guy..those predictions I put weren't by map, they are just who I want to see play  / | ||
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On June 05 2010 03:04 Megalisk wrote: Yeah but SKT is more likely to send a terran on Grand Line, so Skyhigh is the guy..those predictions I put weren't by map, they are just who I want to see play /I just wanted to give Bisu an easy win. EDIT: On June 05 2010 03:33 lone_hydra wrote: Bisu will show Effort exactly why he is 3-0 up against him. Revolutionist fighting! Or Hyuk will own Effort again. Either way works for me. Please play Bisu! EffOrt beat him in a really fun game at IEF. | ||
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
Or Hyuk will own Effort again. Either way works for me. Please play Bisu! | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On June 05 2010 02:16 HnR)hT wrote: Movie > Best Movie=bad! He even lost vs Guemchi -_- | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
On June 05 2010 03:33 lone_hydra wrote: Bisu will show Effort exactly why he is 3-0 up against him. Revolutionist fighting! Or Hyuk will own Effort again. Either way works for me. Please play Bisu! Bisu is actually 3-1 vs EffOrt http://www.teamliquid.net/tsld/games/504_Bisu_vs_EffOrt and EffOrt would crush anyone from skt, but I'm hoping to see Bisu playing edit: typos | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Also hmm. Graduation tomorrow. Maybe I might skip this... | ||
Waxangel
United States33371 Posts
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hyst.eric.al
United States2332 Posts
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disciple
9070 Posts
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khellian
Korea (South)922 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
Now it will probably be a 3-0 or 3-1 beatdown witha quarter of the original amount of T1 fans showing up. How times have changed . | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
Soo < Iris S2 < Movie Hyuk < Effort | ||
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avaTar[
Mexico301 Posts
BeSt Grand Line SE IrisHyuk Judgment Day Hydrafantasy Match Point EffOrtSoo_SKT Fighting Spirit Snowfantasy Polaris Rhapsody EffOrt+ Show Spoiler + Yes, a little biased for my fantasy team ;D | ||
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saikeraku
Canada2933 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
CJ takes this 3-2 with Effort beating Fantasy in ace. | ||
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Garaman
United States556 Posts
fantasy << SnowBisu << IrisHyuk >> EffOrtBeSt >> MovieHIM >>>>> EffOrt | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
On June 05 2010 04:38 disciple wrote: To the 50 or so confused CJ Entusmen - your team is getting raped tonight Hyuk is the only thing that come close to stopping CJ. It will be an easy 3-1 :D | ||
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
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catabowl
United States815 Posts
fantasy Grand Line SE SnowHyuk Judgment DayHydraSoo_SKT Match Point ]EffOrtBeSt Fighting Spirit Moviefantasy Polaris RhapsodyEffOrt | ||
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Sea.JustGod
400 Posts
Canata < Grand Line SE > SnowHyuk < Judgment Day > sKyHighFanTaSy < Match Point > IrisBisu < Fighting Spirit > EffOrt ( Bisu 3 - 0 EffOrt ) | ||
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BliptiX
Canada324 Posts
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
On June 05 2010 03:59 Tuke wrote: Bisu is actually 3-1 vs EffOrt http://www.teamliquid.net/tsld/games/504_Bisu_vs_EffOrt and EffOrt would crush anyone from skt, but I'm hoping to see Bisu playing edit: typos I count official matches. Bisu didn't even bother shaving for IEF. | ||
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TriniMasta
United States1323 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On June 05 2010 08:24 Sea.JustGod wrote: My Predictions: Canata < Grand Line SE > SnowHyuk < Judgment Day > sKyHighFanTaSy < Match Point > IrisBisu < Fighting Spirit > EffOrt ( Bisu 3 - 0 EffOrt )Bisu's on leave, bro. | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
perfect pick for AT | ||
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Hazard
Norway594 Posts
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abaDURRR
Canada88 Posts
Hyuk takes it in ACE=D | ||
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DrivE
United States2554 Posts
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Soo_SKT <- I never knew how to to TLPD-ize that name before. Also, On June 05 2010 04:05 Waxangel wrote: I'm really annoyed that Effort keeps losing opportunities to play against good Protoss or Terran players. I expect Effort to play a ZvZ here (or Canata) and I'll have learned nothing new about him after the OSL Final. It's true, although I'm not sure whether it's other teams trying to snipe EffOrt, or Coach Cho just using EffOrt to beat other zergs into the ground. At any rate, I'm hoping for the BeSt. Fantasy would be interesting as well, but I'd rather see them both play protosses. | ||
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Anomarad
Canada565 Posts
Also I doubt Bisu will be in the main group again today. | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
WHAT SHOULD I DO | ||
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
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Never.Say.GG
United States192 Posts
EffOrt > HyukSnow > Soo_SKTsKyHigh < BisuIris < fantasyEffOrt < BisuShow me that special training Bisu =(I wish hyuk would win 1st game but effort's turning this match up to EvZ, end of JvZ =) | ||
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RandomAbuse
187 Posts
SKT - Mediocre zergs ( They do fluke alot though), Slumping star player, (Beesuit) and  BoxeR got married ( We know what happened to Samsung when January got married), Fantasy ( No new tricks, bad bionic play)That can only lead to the conclusion that SKT will lose. ;( I predict a 3-1 with only Fantasy winning if he faces Movie. ( LOL movie PvT) | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
On June 05 2010 10:49 lone_hydra wrote: Bowling. You don't want to see what SKT1 is gonna do to CJ. Actually, I think I'll go and read the live report of CJ raping skt :> Hope I get back in time for MST | ||
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Inkblood
United States463 Posts
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AppleTart
United States1261 Posts
On June 05 2010 10:47 Megalisk wrote: My friends invited me to go bowling in a few hours...man I'm torn right now...AAAAAG CJ! WHAT SHOULD I DO Follow your heart | ||
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Never.Say.GG
United States192 Posts
Lets see, SKT - Mediocre zergs Fantasy ( No new tricks, bad bionic play) Fantasy owns without bionic play. His mech is second only to Flash. The zergs are REALLY, REALLY improving a lot, and you can actually count on Hyuk. Whoever that new coach is, he's a fucking beast. And Bisu slump =( | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
On June 05 2010 10:47 Megalisk wrote: My friends invited me to go bowling in a few hours...man I'm torn right now...AAAAAG CJ! WHAT SHOULD I DO go bowling, you can aways watch the vods of CJ victory later | ||
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
Match-ups which may lead to SKT victory Snow vs Best (or Hyuk) Movie vs Fantasy (or Bisu) -- Movie's PvP is becoming not that great (losing to Guemchi wtf??) Effort vs Hyuk (Or Fantasy) -- Could be a toss up, Effort with the slight favourite. After these, S2 or soo need to do some epic cheese | ||
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Nitan
United States3401 Posts
The world will end as CJ fans across the world sacrifice themselves to whatever dark gods they can find to end the world. | ||
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Lightningbullet
United States507 Posts
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BliptiX
Canada324 Posts
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
http://tv.zeroboy.net/kentor | ||
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shalafi
394 Posts
But it looks like I will be disappointed no matter who wins : / Also, thanks Kentor, I love your stream. | ||
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unionbank
Australia666 Posts
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
I WILL NOT TRADE YOU AWAY! SHOW ME WHY I TOOK YOU OVER SNOW! Please! | ||
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dtnmang
Vietnam752 Posts
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Sea.JustGod
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Oh... thanks for the information Set 5: n.die_soO < Fighting Spirit > EffOrtACE: BeSt < Polaris Rhapsody > EffOrt | ||
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
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foxmeep
Australia2333 Posts
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RandomAccount#49059
United States2140 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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Random_0
United States1163 Posts
What an awesome matchup. | ||
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
sKyHigh out for CJ. BeSt for SKT. That's an advantage for SKT. | ||
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avaTar[
Mexico301 Posts
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
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Noxide
United States2870 Posts
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HnR)hT
United States3468 Posts
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Mojawi)SoJu
Korea (South)259 Posts
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
TBH the only games I remember Skyhigh playing vs protoss and winning is during the winner league finals. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
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Noxide
United States2870 Posts
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avaTar[
Mexico301 Posts
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:09 Noxide wrote: No 12 nex from Best, I can't believe it. Snow/Flash made it uncool. | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
I believe! | ||
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Noxide
United States2870 Posts
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
Wtf best looks REALLY feminine. | ||
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avaTar[
Mexico301 Posts
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Xinliben
United States931 Posts
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vishrut
United States567 Posts
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Random_0
United States1163 Posts
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foxmeep
Australia2333 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:02 foxmeep wrote: No return from Bisu yet. He was not in the lineup when they came on stage. | ||
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disciple
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k.taeyang
Peru145 Posts
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Zona
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Zona
40426 Posts
Man it's so weird seeing so many other teams also with red shirts. | ||
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Dandy4
United States493 Posts
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
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swanized
Canada2480 Posts
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:15 Dandy4 wrote: how far along the game were they? It like just started. | ||
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Dandy4
United States493 Posts
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
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avaTar[
Mexico301 Posts
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GTR
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AlTheCake
Canada1071 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:16 GTR wrote: yeh if its that early in the game regame ofc. Clearly skyhigh had the advantage... | ||
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
They're pretty fortunate that wasn't a BBS against a 12 nex. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
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Heaven_n
Mexico170 Posts
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:18 Heaven_n wrote: Not good just put best on anti skyhighs tvp is pitiful... | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
MrHoon: and we are going to regame after giving them a 5 minute break Best went 14nex and Skyhigh went gas, so Best was at an advantage | ||
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kmdarkmaster
France188 Posts
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
Not that it matters anymore seeing as he knows about it now. | ||
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
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RandomAbuse
187 Posts
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ZiZi Yo
Netherlands102 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:19 SuperArc wrote: MrHoon: THe first set, Best's computer suddenly just disconnected Poor comp.. BeSt is too HOT to handle XDXDXD | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:20 RandomAbuse wrote: This is so rigged. This is as though they are giving CJ the win. even if he has to change his bo, best should be able to defeat skyhigh.... who cant do anything but tvt. | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:21 SCC-Faust wrote: Did anyone see that brief shot of that 4 year-old's ass? pedobear approves. XD" btw kentor exchanging sexy pics with mrhoon  share them with the rest of tl plz! XD | ||
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Random_0
United States1163 Posts
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DrivE
United States2554 Posts
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bearbuddy
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
BISU COME BACK | ||
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Xinliben
United States931 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:22 bearbuddy wrote: This is not a 5 minute break -_- 5 minutes means 10 in realtime. They meant 5 minutes at "faster", but sadly we are stuck at normal. | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:23 MrHoon wrote: omg the little girl is looking for Bisu TT_TT TT_TT TT_TT BISU COME BACK So sad It's like the Futurama dog. | ||
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
skyhigh at 7 | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Skyhigh the blue terran at 7. Best the ultimate red protoss at 1. They fight over the Grand Line! | ||
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:20 King K. Rool wrote: Whoa Coach Cho seems really short. I don't recall Skyhigh being really tall or anything. Skyhigh is at least over 180 cm tall | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
White guy with TL.net sign! | ||
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ohN
United States1075 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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moopie
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Skyhigh takes his gas early to prevent a gas steal. | ||
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DrivE
United States2554 Posts
epic sign by the foreigner | ||
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
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MrHoon
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Zona
40426 Posts
1 rax gas CC it is. Best getting goon range | ||
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
Best's core is spinning. Bunker for skyhigh at his nat. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Best is returning his probe home... | ||
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illu
Canada2531 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Best takes his natural, quite a bit later than Skyhigh's | ||
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:28 Zona wrote: Is Skyhigh scouting for proxies? He's seen best's base yet his SCV is scouting the bottom half of the map Best takes his natural, quite a bit later than Skyhigh's I guess. No second gate, no tech other than core - probably a bit suspicious.. But best went expo which skyhigh saw. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Skyhigh's scouting scv manages to make it past a goon and spot Best's warping nex | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Best starts his 2nd gas and his observatory, and a citadel siege finishes, ebay is done and floats - a turret started at the nat choke. | ||
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
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Empyrean
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img72.imageshack.us/i/whitedude.png/) Who are you? REVEAL YOURSELF! | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
not really outmacro, more of go into a macro war with best.. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
2-Base arbs for best...3rd gateway started | ||
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
Best going up to 4 gate, obs out. 2 base arbs. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
Skyhigh greedy for econ, Best greedy for tech | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:31 SilverSkyLark wrote: SkyHigh trying to outmacro Best...not a very wise decision. Best isn't invincible - especially when he's down on bases 4th gateway starts for best stargate finishes before the archives - Best's timing not optimal as he started them at the same time. and the stream stalls again~ | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Best pylon-walls off 1 o'clock - shuttle is out but spotted by a SCV as it makes it into best's main to see everything T_T | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
Best gonna make SkyHigh pay for his greed soon enough me thinks. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
maybe best should've swiped the rines instead so that he could drop zealots on the tanks 2nd dt starsense-scanned and killed for one rine with splash but Skyhigh has to float his CC away from 7. | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Best brings his forces back to his main, adds his 7th gate...forge spinning | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
An obs follows Skyhigh's army as it moves out and sieges in the middle of the map | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
God he sucks in TvP >.< | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Arbiter heads to Skyhigh's base - recall on the factories! | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Despite not focusing on the armory for a long time it gets taken out but one mine takes out 5 goons still, Skyhigh's not in good shape with his main CC dead. | ||
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
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Subwoofermate
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DrivE
United States2554 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:36 SuperArc wrote: Yay Skyhigh starting to do one of his stupid pushes! God he sucks in TvP >.< I call this the "FBH push". | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
eating mines and losing units as he moves around without obs skyhigh moving out with his army again, rebuilding an armory - obs sees Skyhigh's armory maneuver so Best in good shape - able to duck away as the tanks siege another arbiter heading down again! | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
they move backwards as skyhigh sees the arb Best stasis's the back tanks - but loses a lot of units to the remaining tanks still best has tons of units streaming by Skyhigh expands to 6. | ||
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
Best with some of the worst zealot attack I've ever seen. But its okay as his next push destroys alot of stuff and 12 zealots run from his main. | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
still best has to pull back because of more tanks sieged up some distance behind but skyhigh leaves those tanks unprotected, zealot mine drag kills them all skyhigh's fucked. | ||
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Subwoofermate
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
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snowdrift
France2061 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:40 King K. Rool wrote: Oh mah gawd. Best with some of the worst zealot attack I've ever seen. He's too busy macroing | ||
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
skyhigh in futility building a CC again at 7 - he doesn't even have enough units to defend! first vessel out - helps goliaths pick off obs | ||
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DrivE
United States2554 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:41 Subwoofermate wrote: Skyhigh literally the worst TvP player in the world. no, there are way worse but he really sucks at TvP | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Best on 10 gates now vs 8 factories 2 addons. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
nope? well 3 zealots and a goon there to defend - skyhigh trying some stupid dropship micro when a huge army roaming the middle of the map | ||
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
where did all of Best's observers with his army go? oh well Skyhigh has an off-placed Cc at 6 with nothing mining it lifts and moves back Best attacking - stasis's a vessel and 2 tanks in the front stasis's more tanks not a great attack but best has SO MANY MORE UNITS it doesn't matter | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
Skyhigh losing the last of his forces. | ||
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
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InTheFade
United States1721 Posts
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Subwoofermate
293 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:44 nayumi wrote: best needs storms ... Best doesn't know what storms are. He only knows what zealots and dragoons are. | ||
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
vulture mine drops kill a lot of units though - man Best's micro sucks still a small army moves to 6 and stops mining there | ||
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
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Subwoofermate
293 Posts
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DrivE
United States2554 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
This game being dragged out, Best playing safely finally using obs to clear mines around the map again | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:46 Vivi57 wrote: skyhigh actually took out a ton of best's army, but best's next army will crush him Probably because BeSt 1a2a3a'd into that, and then went back to build another huge army back at home. But sKyHigh put down some nice mines on clumped dragoons at the end there. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
Give space to players who can actually play more than one matchup >_> | ||
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Zona
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Best's army taking a lot of damage as it moves towards 6 - but there's too many goons Skyhigh will easily lose his base and Skyhigh concedes. | ||
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dtnmang
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1 down, 2 to go SKT. | ||
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On June 05 2010 13:48 Zona wrote: Best has accumulated quite a few arbs considering he has only one stargate Best's army taking a lot of damage as it moves towards 6 - but there's too many goons Skyhigh will easily lose his base and Skyhigh concedes. he had 2 actually | ||
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jalstar
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On June 05 2010 13:49 Zona wrote: Wow, as much as I would love to tell myself (as a T1 fan) the win was due to Best's amazing skill...Skyhigh was just terrible. it's like they never have him practice non-tvt He played that like a TvT, no mines around the factories to defend against recalls or anything, just tank lines. | ||
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On June 05 2010 13:50 jalstar wrote: it's like they never have him practice non-tvt He played that like a TvT, no mines around the factories to defend against recalls or anything, just tank lines. seriously, I've come to the same conclusion with a lot of CJ players. how the hell can you be so good at one matchup and so positively awful at another unless you're not even working on your shitty matchup? | ||
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:50 jalstar wrote: it's like they never have him practice non-tvt He played that like a TvT, no mines around the factories to defend against recalls or anything, just tank lines. Umm... no he had mines all over his facts if you watched the game and he had a tank lines defended with vultures and mines. He took some damage from first recall but defended recalls very well after that. But statis and damage from first recall fucked him up. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:54 lone_hydra wrote: Umm... no he had mines all over his facts if you watched the game and he had a tank lines defended with vultures and mines. He took some damage from first recall but defended recalls very well after that. But statis and damage from first recall fucked him up. I didn't see any mines at all, at least during the first recall. | ||
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Zona
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On June 05 2010 13:54 lone_hydra wrote: Umm... no he had mines all over his facts if you watched the game and he had a tank lines defended with vultures and mines. He took some damage from first recall but defended recalls very well after that. But statis and damage from first recall fucked him up. Well it doesn't take a genius to realize you should mine up a place your opponent has ALREADY recalled to...perhaps having mines there before having his opponent exploit that weak spot might have been better... Still, his vulture harass was horrible his "pushes" (if you could even call them that) were horrible his decision making was horrible. | ||
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Subwoofermate
293 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:54 lone_hydra wrote: Umm... no he had mines all over his facts if you watched the game and he had a tank lines defended with vultures and mines. He took some damage from first recall but defended recalls very well after that. But statis and damage from first recall fucked him up. he mined up after Best basically just flew an arbiter into his main without any resistance whatsoever. | ||
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:56 jalstar wrote: I didn't see any mines at all, at least during the first recall. you can blame his scouting, but best did go really early arbs | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
Why Snow on Judgement day? | ||
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jalstar
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Zona
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Wow MBC sure are delaying showing who's playing for SKT...ahh, hyuk! | ||
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DrivE
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flamewheel
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Snow vs Hyuk. Ahaha. | ||
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Random_0
United States1163 Posts
Awesome matchup guessing by the T1 coach. | ||
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United States8198 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:58 flamewheel wrote: Oh, fuck. Snow vs Hyuk. Ahaha. oh fuck it's hyuk -every other team | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Snow the green victim at 5. They battle over judgment day! | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:57 Vivi57 wrote: you can blame his scouting, but best did go really early arbs skyhigh's scv scouted Best's 2-base arbiter way before the arbiter approached Skyhigh's main. | ||
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fearus
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
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avaTar[
Mexico301 Posts
Maybe trying to snipe fantasy? He likes this map... | ||
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Snow's fledgling PvZ against another pretty strong player in Hyuk. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:59 o[twist] wrote: not that i think this game is a foregone conclusion, but this is two horribly unlucky matchups for cj tonight yeah but coach cho is supposed to be "expert sniper" bad night i guess | ||
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Zona
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But then again I didn't think the CJ coach would make it so easy for SKT. SKT's coach has been totally outguessing his counterparts lately overpool, or even 10 pool? forge first at the megabase choke for snow. | ||
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Zona
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Cannon at the megachoke, 4 lings, and 2 later spawn | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
one ling chasing down the scouting probe without success is hyuk taking 10? I think so | ||
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:59 o[twist] wrote: not that i think this game is a foregone conclusion, but this is two horribly unlucky matchups for cj tonight Snow's gonna take this, just watch.I'll bet 10 esports dollars on it. | ||
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Zona
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On June 05 2010 14:00 nayumi wrote: skyhigh's scv scouted Best's 2-base arbiter way before the arbiter approached Skyhigh's main. Yeah...I was kind of annoyed that Best did nothing to stop scouting all game. | ||
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Zona
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Zona
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Does Hyuk know any other builds? | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
citadel for Snow - that didn't work on hyuk last time! another hatchery for Hyuk at the megachoke lings deny probe scout, first sair done and moving out templar archives start | ||
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Zona
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6 lings take a peek at Snow's choke as the sair flies over everything in Hyuk's bases. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
scourge scouts all of snow's tech yep - nexus warping in at inner 4.5 | ||
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Zona
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he expands to 12. | ||
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Snow at 8. A dragoon, an archon, and three zealots walk into a bar... then prudently back off due to a hydra infestation. | ||
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Zona
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one meandering OL lost to an archon - lings and hydra chase Snow's small army away Snow taking a hidden expo at 8. It might pay off if Hyuk doesn't attack immeidately 4 templar charging energy at the choke. 3 gates being added. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
not at this rate... forge spinning another 2 cannons being added to 4. hydraling with lagging lurkers forcing Snow's small army back A zealot headed towards 12? - dies immediately to lurkers but should have spotted the creep there 1 hydra stormed as Hyuk pulls back OL spots nothing at 9 - but doesn't head for enough to see 8! 3 sairs hunt down an OL | ||
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Zona
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Snow adding a lot of gates - at 9 or so gates now? Snow adding a pylon at 6 under the eyes of scourge while Hyuk massing lurkers and hydra Snow's expo at 8 paying off, despite quite a few idle probes there | ||
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tree.hugger
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Hyuk has absolutely no idea that Snow is on four base. Snow throwing down a ton of gateways, moving to take his fifth *ahem* "fourth" at the bottom middle. Moving out with his army to cover. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
DT checks out 9 - nothing there is hyuk expanding to 1.5? hive finishes! | ||
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Zona
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Snow purposely letting Hyuk deny that base to fool him? | ||
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King K. Rool
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Zona
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probe chilling at 7.5 - hoping to expo there too? another OL being huted down hyuk pretty good at dodging storms - a nice flank on Snow's army but still taking lots of damage Snow forced to retreat from the center | ||
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Leoj
United States396 Posts
Storm Hurts. Sincerely, Leoj | ||
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
Or is it? Snow holds it but tons of more shit coming for hyuk. | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
Hyuk SLAUGHTERED Snow's army. | ||
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tree.hugger
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Hyuk is almost all-in on this attack. EDIT: I think he's done enough damage. Snow's army is in a bad way. | ||
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Zona
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lots of hydraling, and more emerging from hatcheries middle aged lady in audience! | ||
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Zona
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pretty good storm dodging from Hyuk considering how much multitask he's facing still doesn't know about 8 though... | ||
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Zona
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FINALLY an overlord spots 8 - bet Hyuk is kicking himself now. | ||
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Zona
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still hyuk presses his attack on the megachoke - storms really leaving behind a lot of zerg blood | ||
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dtnmang
Vietnam752 Posts
Yes, Snow! Yes! Suck it! | ||
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Zona
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8 goes down quickly | ||
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moopie
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Snow re-makes his base at 6 meanwhile. | ||
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Tuke
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Zona
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actually snow probably has the advantage 2 dts head out Hyuk taking inner 1.5 again - a DT sees it | ||
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tree.hugger
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Snow can retake the bottom middle base, then he can win this. I think he came out ahead of that huge series of battles, but only just. | ||
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
Though I still feel like Hyuk has too much. PLAGUE on alot of zealots. WOW big plagues. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
a second plague hits like a dozen! good stuff 2 zergs are heading through snow's army though storms killing a LOT of hydra... pure lings heading to attack 6 - not enough cannons | ||
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AlTheCake
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WOW those storms just raped Hyuk's army | ||
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DrivE
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dukethegold
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Meanwhile, Hyuk too down Snow's 8 o'clock and Snow took out Hyuk's 12 o'clock Big engagement in the middle of the map... Massive storms and plagues going off. Meanwhile, Hyuk ling rushed Snow's 6 o'clock and took it out. Cow is out! | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
Cracklings take out 6 oclock again. Hyuk losing 1 oclock as well. Cows out. | ||
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tree.hugger
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On June 05 2010 14:17 SuperArc wrote: Snow, REAVERS please!!! More like a high templar at your expo. Hyuk is going to starve soon but so is Snow. and Snow's army is back in the field. Again, it's a matter of who can hold their bases. | ||
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Leoj
United States396 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:18 o[twist] wrote: kind of an impressive game from snow imo, at least at certain points forgetting reavers in this situation is kind of unimpressive | ||
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Zona
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taking down the lone ultras headed that way - now killing the hatchery Hyuk in bad shape both players in bad shape actually but Snow is closer to being mined out I think another plague | ||
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Leoj
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dukethegold
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Snow's 3 o'clock is down! Snow is on one base!!!! | ||
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Zona
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a bunch of ultras attacking snow's army some nice storms on them but they still live - ultra ling clearing out the forces at inner 1.5 ultras find the new base at 3 and are killing it unopposed Snow's in trouble | ||
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Zona
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Random_0
United States1163 Posts
I give all credit to the T1 coaches for thoroughly outguessing CJ on the matchups. | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
Probes got caught right in the middle of Hyuk's cow army. Probe's escort army got slaughtered, what followed was one of the most unsightly probe massacre in history. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
Snow - future of protoss! sorry about your future, protoss | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
where's snow sending his probes? to fight? Snow concedes. | ||
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Leoj
United States396 Posts
get hyuk'd | ||
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ironcell
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Snow gg's. Great game.I owe someone 10 esports dollars, but I thought Snow didn't play too poorly. Hyuk's macro was insane though, and he was wonderfully cost efficient with his units. | ||
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cascades
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
HYUK DOMINATED!!! WTF, NO BISU ON BENCH. | ||
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Subwoofermate
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DrivE
United States2554 Posts
skt1 will 3-0 | ||
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King K. Rool
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Zona
40426 Posts
Damn our world is upside down and my FPL is screwed. | ||
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nayumi
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genericname92
United States148 Posts
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night terrors
China1284 Posts
hyuk | ||
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EpiK
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3329 Posts
hahaha | ||
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o[twist]
United States4903 Posts
lol i laugh every time i remember that | ||
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QuickStriker
United States3694 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:22 shindigs wrote: Soon you will all believe in the Hyukjwa I already believe in Hyukjwa! HYUK HYUK HYUK! | ||
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dtnmang
Vietnam752 Posts
Snow gets what an one matchup player deserves - a good facestomp in the mud. | ||
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hyuk denied expansions well [cracklings are so mobile... snow needed some kind of reaver / templar defense at expos ] while sitting on 4 base all game (though snow denied his 5th attempts) | ||
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
Movie > s2 Effort > fantasy MAKE IT HAPPEN | ||
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TheYango
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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Bulgaria527 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:22 TheYango wrote: Hyuk has made more points for my FPL team than Flash now. if Flash is bonjwa, this means Hyuk is beyond bonjwa | ||
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Waxangel
United States33371 Posts
He wanted to say "into the tiger's mouth," but inadvertently was goign to use a broadcast inappropriate word for "mouth." He realized it just as he was saying the word, and changed it at the last second and ended up saying "into the tiger's gills" | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:22 Random_0 wrote: Hyuk looked pretty good managing a large army there. The new Zerg coach must *really* be good. Hyuk's multitask was pretty impressive - at one point he was managing an attack on 8 and he still dodged some storms near Snow's choke, and of course, while maintaining his straight-up impressive macro - I was really pleasantly surprised at that point. | ||
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Noxide
United States2870 Posts
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QuickStriker
United States3694 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:23 jalstar wrote: if Flash is bonjwa, this means Hyuk is beyond bonjwa That's why Hyuk for FPL is an instant compared to Flash, much more cost effective and gives more points! Woot Hyuk! | ||
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Austria7781 Posts
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TheMute
United States458 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:23 jalstar wrote: if Flash is bonjwa, this means Hyuk is beyond bonjwa Man, I totally failed in logic. Since Bisu is more valuable than Hyuk, and Bisu isn't worth 5 points, then Hyuk isn't worth 5 points. But there's a huge fallacy here! I lose, GG. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:24 Tuke wrote: Hyuk's macro was pretty pickled in that game Here we go again. | ||
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Vietnam752 Posts
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snowdrift
France2061 Posts
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
I could have taken either Snow or Hyuk instead of Bisu. But no, the T1 coach just have to prove it to us that Bisu is actually anti material. Whatever, I believe! | ||
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:25 SuperArc wrote: Snow didnt play that bad, Hyuk just played good. Agreed, Snow made a few little mistakes, but Hyuk was all over the place with that army. And disciple, the OP doesn't give that game justice imo. That game had a pretty awesome running battle that lasted for at least five minutes. Very fun to watch. | ||
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canucks12
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okum
France5778 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:24 Zona wrote: Hyuk's multitask was pretty impressive - at one point he was managing an attack on 8 and he still dodged some storms near Snow's choke, and of course, while maintaining his straight-up impressive macro - I was really pleasantly surprised at that point. It's always impressive when zerg players attack-move zerglings at some location on the minimap while doing something else. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:26 snowdrift86 wrote: Hyuk's macro is legit -- watch his games vs forGG: he builds up these big, all-inish midgame attacks out of his ass. If they fail he gets rolled though. He absolutely destroyed Horang2 with mid-game hydras, not a Shine style all-in, but certainly an impressive amount of units, good macroer. | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
But he didn't. So he lost. | ||
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disciple
9070 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:26 tree.hugger wrote: Agreed, Snow made a few little mistakes, but Hyuk was all over the place with that army. And disciple, the OP doesn't give that game justice imo. That game had a pretty awesome running battle that lasted for at least five minutes. Very fun to watch. well I thought snow could've made a better use of his hidden base, I found his play rather disappointing... | ||
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flamewheel
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Lightwip
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Noxide
United States2870 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:28 Musoeun wrote: Snow should have made reavers once he got to mid-game. But he didn't. So he lost. Agreed, and defending bases with just cannons while defilers are out is dumb. One templar could have made a difference. | ||
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o[twist]
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:29 disciple wrote: well I thought snow could've made a better use of his hidden base, I found his play rather disappointing... I was a little disappointed too, but Hyuk's attack and subsequent pressure was a beautiful thing to see. Excellent army composition, he didn't really overdo it on the lurkers, but went almost all-in lair just as Snow's gateway advantage was starting to come into play, but before it could swing the balance of the battle. It was some nice, somewhat lucky, but fundamentally well executed play from Hyuk, and it made that game really really fun to watch for the duration. On June 05 2010 14:32 TwoToneTerran wrote: Snow played well for someone with absolutely no PvZ sense. He had great storms/macro/overall strategy (with the successful secret expo), but poor concept of defense and army composition. This is pretty correct. Snow's army was a little too dragoon heavy when Hyuk committed. | ||
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zmeqt
Bulgaria527 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:32 cascades wrote: Effort vs Fantasy. Good matchup for CJ finally. Lately Effort vs anyhing is a good matchup it seems. | ||
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Vietnam9018 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Good this is good for CJ... Because then Movie can take out a Zerg... And then EffOrt in Ace? That'd salvage some points for me tonight... ugh. Not a good night. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:33 zmeqt wrote: Lately Effort vs anyhing is a good matchup it seems. Well Fantasy vs Zerg has been a bit...ghastly of late. | ||
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United States2870 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:34 Noxide wrote: Cmon Fantasy you got this! Just don't do valkyrie build. oh yeah, since fantasy's standard TvZ is so good? :p | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:34 Zona wrote: Well Fantasy vs Zerg has been a bit...ghastly of late. ![[image loading]](http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/gastly.gif) Yeah and I don't think he can standard beat EffOrt. As long as the Alien checks for the inevitable weird stuff that Boxer and Oov come up with for fantasy he won't lose. I hope. | ||
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tobi9999
United States1966 Posts
i have both Movie and soo on my FPL WHY WHYWHYWHYWHY | ||
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jalstar
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Subwoofermate
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On June 05 2010 14:34 SuperArc wrote: oh yeah, since fantasy's standard TvZ is so good? :p Fantasy's mech is actually pretty good and it is Match Point. | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:34 flamewheel wrote: EffOrt versus fantasy. Good this is good for CJ... Because then Movie can take out a Zerg... And then EffOrt in Ace? That'd salvage some points for me tonight... ugh. Not a good night. That's true, but he can't take out Bisu. | ||
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tobi9999
United States1966 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:37 Subwoofermate wrote: Fantasy's mech is actually pretty good and it is Match Point. Fantasy is good in general but just terribly inconsistent imo His bio is lacking, but he does special modified bio builds to make up for that. | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
You're right, because Bisu isn't here. | ||
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:34 SuperArc wrote: oh yeah, since fantasy's standard TvZ is so good? :p It's hard to say something like "fantasy's TvZ is excellent" or fantasy's TvZ is bad". Neither of those are true really. In proleague, his TvZ is unpolished, while in the late rounds of a starleague, his TvZ is absolutely amazing. fantasy is weird like that. And, although I love both, I have to root for EffOrt! | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:38 tobi9999 wrote: Fantasy is good in general but just terribly inconsistent imo His bio is lacking, but he does special modified bio builds to make up for that. Yeah, but all his builds work one or twice only. Well I'm glad to see mech - it's become too rare these days a CC in progress forming a wall at the choke another extractor starts. | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
Bisu is a ninjatoss? He's clearly hidden. | ||
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DrivE
United States2554 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
is my stream behind? oh it's way behind... | ||
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InTheFade
United States1721 Posts
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CCGaunt
United States417 Posts
ZING let's go cj! | ||
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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SHr3DD3r
Pakistan2137 Posts
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
Just when EffOrt is playing I have to go T_T go CJ! | ||
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DrivE
United States2554 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
There goes my fpl | ||
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:43 Tuke wrote: FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!! Just when EffOrt is playing I have to go T_T go CJ! dont worry, hes losing | ||
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tobi9999
United States1966 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:43 flamewheel wrote: WHAT THE FUCK EFFORT. | ||
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DrivE
United States2554 Posts
gj skt~ | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh oh wow this is weird. Fffffffffffffffffff there goes that ranking. | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
In my serious and professional opinion, Terran is fucking bullshit. I am sorry. | ||
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ironcell
Chile1127 Posts
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
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dtnmang
Vietnam752 Posts
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SHr3DD3r
Pakistan2137 Posts
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AlTheCake
Canada1071 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
What the fffffffffffffffffff >.> | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
Fantasy should use mech against Zerg more often. | ||
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illu
Canada2531 Posts
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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GTR
51446 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:46 dukethegold wrote: Fantasy is raping Effort. O.o Fantasy should use mech against Zerg more often. its the only thing he can do well | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:46 dukethegold wrote: Fantasy is raping Effort. O.o Fantasy should use mech against Zerg more often. Or Effort should actually practice against mech more often. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
And T1 3-0'ing again? Damn... Effort concedes. | ||
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
fantasy, he's had that by a mile. Too much stuff, and he hit before EffOrt's greedy base-taking and hydra production could kick in. | ||
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tobi9999
United States1966 Posts
SKT despite having only lackluster players right now is destroying as if Bisu/Best/Canata/Fantasy were all performing at top level. | ||
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stich09
United States42 Posts
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:32 cascades wrote: Effort vs Fantasy. Good matchup for CJ finally. Oops :> | ||
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InTheFade
United States1721 Posts
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SHr3DD3r
Pakistan2137 Posts
FUCK YES SKT1 | ||
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
SKT 3-0 again? Wooooooowwwwwww. Fuck tonight sucks for FPL. /cry lol. | ||
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Noxide
United States2870 Posts
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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DoX.)
Singapore6164 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Damn T1 is crushing...when I don't expect them to | ||
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AlTheCake
Canada1071 Posts
saaaaaaaad day for CJ -.- | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
too bad, sad thing | ||
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DrivE
United States2554 Posts
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
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Barfboy
Canada193 Posts
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United States10328 Posts
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o[twist]
United States4903 Posts
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dtnmang
Vietnam752 Posts
And I smell a slump incoming... | ||
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Waxangel
United States33371 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:47 tobi9999 wrote: Well, if fantasy went for BBS or 14 CC EffOrt would've won. SKT despite having only lackluster players right now is destroying as if Bisu/Best/Canata/Fantasy were all performing at top level. Well it's more like Fantasy/Hyuk/Best/s2 or something right now. | ||
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:47 nayumi wrote: rofl osl champion right there guess what the MSL champion lost Hiya lolol!!!! Wtf since when are champions not allowed to lose? lol | ||
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
Fantasy's mech v.s Zerg is pretty damn good. Effort needs to work on his mech aspect of ZvT. I don't remember a single game in which Effort won against Mech. | ||
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DoX.)
Singapore6164 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + JK :D Seriously though, gj T1! | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9018 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
Other than, "Damn am I glad I don't have Hyuk on my FPL anti." | ||
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SiegeFlank
United States410 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
fantasy and EffOrt hate? EffOrt got greedy, fantasy pushed at exactly the right time. Neither player played incredibly badly, but one punished the other for a risk that he took. Seriously. Things this result does not mean: 1. CJ is bad. 2. SKT is bad. 3. EffOrt is bad. 4. fantasy is bad. 5. Snow is bad. Things it does mean: 1. Life, as we know it, has not ended yet. | ||
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CCGaunt
United States417 Posts
good plays by sk | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
SKT was sick though, makes me wish I had chosen them as a team... | ||
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AppleTart
United States1261 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
We always get bad matchups against them. | ||
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TheMute
United States458 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:49 flamewheel wrote: I'm very sad. SKT was sick though, makes me wish I had chosen them as a team... I was hovering over the trade button but in the end said to myself, "screw it, CJ vs SKT in their current state is a toss-up" Nope. | ||
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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Subwoofermate
293 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:50 TheMute wrote: SKT counters their 3 zerg play from last time to one of each race this time. Very very nice. I like. I definitely think the T1 coach is outpredicting his counterparts in the last bunch of games. It doesn't help that some other coaches have been making pretty questionable decisions. | ||
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disciple
9070 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:48 Waxangel wrote: I'm very glad this match occurred, gives you good information on where two players stand... Fantasy's mech TvZ is still quite good, while Effort still seems to be an average TvZ player when playing from behind. Flash vs Hiya. EffOrt is still like 22-3 in his last 25 games. | ||
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Noxide
United States2870 Posts
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On June 05 2010 06:38 EpiK wrote: I'd be surprised if SKT can even take one set tbh hahahaha =) gj by skt, seems like we´re back in shape and got a good grasp on a playoff spot. | ||
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Subwoofermate
293 Posts
that game just reinforces everything we already know. flash can come back from shitty situations, he sucks balls with battlecruisers, hiya is a pretty smart player at times. confirms everything we already know. either way, I was impressed by both flash and hiya in that game. | ||
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dtnmang
Vietnam752 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:50 AppleTart wrote: A neo-Kwanro? if effort doesn't all in lings, he just loses, hes shown us that with his past 8 games. His midgame play is just bad. | ||
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:51 disciple wrote: nothing surprising about the results imo Oh come off it, disciple, I know that despite all of your posturing at the beginning you had your doubts! | ||
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AppleTart
United States1261 Posts
wannabe kwanro! kwanro always goes all in! But honestly, if you watch his last like 8 games.. his 3 losses were all midgame and his 5 wins were all early all in lings | ||
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Waxangel
United States33371 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:51 IntoTheWow wrote: Flash vs Hiya. EffOrt is still like 22-3 in his last 25 games. not enough quality TvZ in that sample, which is why I was enjoying this game | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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InTheFade
United States1721 Posts
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:58 InTheFade wrote: MMM the bitterness of the OSL finals is strong here. In that Fantasy was probably screaming "It should have been meeeeeeeee!" every time his Tanks were about to fire a volley on Effort? | ||
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Epithet
United States840 Posts
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
On June 05 2010 15:04 aimaimaim wrote: i dont mind snow and effort losing .. i just hate the fact that Best won .. gadamit What's wrong with Best? A surprising comment from someone who sports the T1 team icon, especially since Best is T1 homegrown talent. | ||
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prototype.
Canada4200 Posts
On June 05 2010 15:04 aimaimaim wrote: i dont mind snow and effort losing .. i just hate the fact that Best won .. gadamit Why would you hate the fact that BeSt won? Especially when it's against skyhigh... only good at tvt | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
On June 05 2010 15:08 Zona wrote: What's wrong with Best? A surprising comment from someone who sports the T1 team icon, especially since Best is T1 homegrown talent. hes on my anti .. iits just this week .. in my mind for 5 point anti, i only had best, bisu and great. should have picked bisu, and with skt zergs doing awesome, i thought best wont get picked for fights .. damn it .. :D | ||
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dtnmang
Vietnam752 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
On June 05 2010 15:11 aimaimaim wrote: hes on my anti .. iits just this week .. in my mind for 5 point anti, i only had best, bisu and great. should have picked bisu, and with skt zergs doing awesome, i thought best wont get picked for fights .. damn it .. :D Best is the only viable protoss T1 has right now, who else is T1 going to send when they need to place a Protoss on a map?. Still, I'll say again that the T1 coach has been outsmarting everyone lately, even FPL players! | ||
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snowdrift
France2061 Posts
On June 05 2010 14:49 tree.hugger wrote: What's with all this simultaneous fantasy and EffOrt hate? EffOrt got greedy, fantasy pushed at exactly the right time. Neither player played incredibly badly, but one punished the other for a risk that he took. Seriously. It's not hate. Effort did absolutely nothing with his mutalisks. fantasy had few turrets and few goliaths when Effort's mutas arrived, and later on he had his goliaths separated in two small groups. Effort could've harassed the main and maybe even overwhelmed fantasy, all the more so given fanta's poor micro. Instead he just flew around taking out a vulture here and there. You can't hope to take four bases and drone up while doing nothing to delay the Terran and not have him move out early. It's as if Effort didn't know what he was playing against. Honestly, I just wish more Zergs would switch to a muta all-in after opening 2 hatch then realizing the Terran is going mech. Especially against a player like fantasy. Instead Effort plays it out and gets rolled because he's unprepared and has only mutalisks loitering around the map. | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
On June 05 2010 15:14 Zona wrote: Best is the only viable protoss T1 has right now, who else is T1 going to send when they need to place a Protoss on a map?. Still, I'll say again that the T1 coach has been outsmarting everyone lately, even FPL players! i agree .. SKT coach is really awesome when it comes to mind games .. | ||
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iloahz
United States964 Posts
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scrubtastic
1166 Posts
Way too many rabid Flash fans in this thread. That game wasn't actually bad, was it? Thought both players did well enough - Effort took a risk to secure an econ advantage and Fantasy made a large enough mech army to punish it. Both didn't do anything particularly bad before then either (as far as I could tell). (Hyuk is set to pass Bisu in ELO lol) | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9018 Posts
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Subwoofermate
293 Posts
On June 05 2010 15:19 scrubtastic wrote: Good choices by T1. Way too many rabid Flash fans in this thread. That game wasn't actually bad, was it? Thought both players did well enough - Effort took a risk to secure an econ advantage and Fantasy made a large enough mech army to punish it. Both didn't do anything particularly bad before then either (as far as I could tell). (Hyuk is set to pass Bisu in ELO lol) Not really, straight up domination by Fantasy because Effort turns into an idiot the minute he sees mech and didn't really achieve anything the whole game. Its not being greedy or anything, Effort basically said to Fantasy "Ok cool dude, I'll let you mech up, get a ball and kill me in the first push". Like people have said before, its like Effort has never seen mech before or something. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On June 05 2010 15:21 Garnet wrote: I accidently autovoted SKT in LB. ouch! ouch? SKT1 won | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
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night terrors
China1284 Posts
On June 05 2010 11:01 Megalisk wrote: Actually, I think I'll go and read the live report of CJ raping skt :> Hope I get back in time for MST oh boy, rage ensues. | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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MrStorkie
United Kingdom697 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 05 2010 15:18 iloahz wrote: wtf just when I completely lost faith in SKT and changed my team to KT then they start rolling everyone again..?? How could you lose faith in SKT when Hyuk is WINNING games. On June 05 2010 15:20 Lightwip wrote: SKT could return to the top with a revived Bisu tbh. Agreed. Their overall lineup is solid atm, especially with their zergs pulling their weight. They just need someone who can ace match at an S-class level. | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
I saw the result and cried . | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
o well skt1 is going downnnn next time >:0 | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
Definitely didn't want a super confident CJ coming into the playoffs... O_O EDIT: Not saying this will stop them from maybe going undefeated the rest of the round but still... CJ makes me nervous... stay away from PL trophy | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On June 05 2010 16:37 Vasoline73 wrote: Yessssssss. Stop the CJ momentum please! Thank you SKT. Definitely didn't want a super confident CJ coming into the playoffs... O_O Where's the difference between a super confident CJ and super confident SKT1? :p | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On June 05 2010 16:38 SuperArc wrote: Where's the difference between a super confident CJ and super confident SKT1? :p An epic Protoss player in their lineup. | ||
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Australia1187 Posts
On June 05 2010 16:38 SuperArc wrote: Where's the difference between a super confident CJ and super confident SKT1? :p Our confidence is actually justified? + Show Spoiler + zing + Show Spoiler + j/k You mean movie? + Show Spoiler + so depressing but so true atm | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
On June 05 2010 16:38 SuperArc wrote: Where's the difference between a super confident CJ and super confident SKT1? :p Maybe the proleague grand finals? | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
Snow actually. Movie would be alright if he didn't lose. + Show Spoiler + So would Bisu | ||
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bitchaRd[raGe]
Russian Federation376 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France7888 Posts
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Corrupt
Bulgaria1312 Posts
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Shiro)Tenshi
China214 Posts
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hitthat
Poland2267 Posts
BISU!Oh...WAIT! | ||
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Hazard
Norway594 Posts
Bisu should make him train harder 8)Looks like T1 aren't the laughing-stock anymore. | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
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L0thar
987 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + damn, normaly I hate douchebaggery post like that, but this time I cannot refuse. sorry people! | ||
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alypse
2771 Posts
Perhaps time for me to join Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk International Fan Cafe =)) | ||
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
Hyuk beating snow? was.. wow Fantasy beating Effort? double wow best actually winning.? mind blown | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
SKT was a bit lucky though (or SKT coach had some epic predictions, possible too) that every CJ player had to play his worst matchup oh well, poor SKT fans must have had a tough time recently so I can't say I'm too upset. | ||
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seRapH
United States9756 Posts
fuck yeah best! | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On June 05 2010 23:19 7mk wrote: T_T SKT was a bit lucky though (or SKT coach had some epic predictions, possible too) that every CJ player had to play his worst matchup oh well, poor SKT fans must have had a tough time recently so I can't say I'm too upset. Effort playing Fantasy in a ZvT? The CJ coach should of been jumping with joy when he saw this MU since he KNOWS fantasy can only mech. | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
On June 06 2010 00:14 On_Slaught wrote: Effort playing Fantasy in a ZvT? The CJ coach should of been jumping with joy when he saw this MU since he KNOWS fantasy can only mech. too bad effort can only use lings. | ||
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dtnmang
Vietnam752 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On June 06 2010 00:14 On_Slaught wrote: Effort playing Fantasy in a ZvT? The CJ coach should of been jumping with joy when he saw this MU since he KNOWS fantasy can only mech. That was one out of 3 cases where the SKT player also had one guy playing his worst matchup. Worst match up vs worst matchup. The other cases were undoubtedly worst mu vs best mu (skyhigh vs best) and worst mu vs at least statistically best mu (snow vs hyuk) | ||
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Count9
China10928 Posts
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
well. i mean Effort ONLY beat the best terran in the world in the OSL finals .. just sayin | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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economist_
Vietnam719 Posts
I mean he did nothing with his muta (only killed one turret lol) and then was still greedy as fuck with 4 bases full of drones? | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On June 05 2010 23:19 7mk wrote: T_T SKT was a bit lucky though (or SKT coach had some epic predictions, possible too) that every CJ player had to play his worst matchup oh well, poor SKT fans must have had a tough time recently so I can't say I'm too upset. its not lucky, they completely raped us with matchups in R4 too. SKT1 coach is the only coach in the Pl who can out think ours. (Oz's coach sometimes manages too.) | ||
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
On June 06 2010 00:35 DreaM)XeRO wrote: well. i mean Effort ONLY beat the best terran in the world in the OSL finals .. just sayin With lings. You know, like in a way any other progamer is capable of. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 06 2010 00:35 DreaM)XeRO wrote: well. i mean Effort ONLY beat the best terran in the world in the OSL finals .. just sayin And he lost the one game where said Terran went mech. | ||
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HnR)hT
United States3468 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On June 06 2010 01:10 HnR)hT wrote: Effort nearly always gets sent out when CJ is down 0-2, and for ace matches. You have to take into account that this predictability works against him. SKT must have known with a 95% certainty that Effort was going to be playing in game 3. mh I really dont think they made this decision to send fantasy on the spot. I would imagine that fantasy was preparing for this map and for being sent out in game 3 before hand | ||
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TheTeamLiquidTiger
United States627 Posts
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Taekwon
United States8155 Posts
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
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Lightningbullet
United States507 Posts
EffOrt managed to beat Flash with mainly lings but not fantasy. So that Just proved that SKT or fantasy doesn't suck. | ||
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shalafi
394 Posts
On June 06 2010 06:14 Lightningbullet wrote: LoL EffOrt managed to beat Flash with mainly lings but not fantasy. So that Just proved that SKT or fantasy doesn't suck.Fantasy is very good, he's just terrible at bio in comparison to his other builds. So in any mech-viable map he should be able to stand against the best Zergs. Fantasy's most outstanding skill is his vulture micro/multitask. That's why he always gets more vultures than other players would in all matchups. He even makes vultures when he's mainly going infantry vs Z. | ||
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MrBob
93 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
EffOrt is the OSL champ and he has a ridiculous record. If this was flash, everyone would be sucking his cock. | ||
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disciple
9070 Posts
On June 06 2010 07:54 IntoTheWow wrote: haters gonna hate. EffOrt is the OSL champ and he has a ridiculous record. If this was flash, everyone would be sucking his cock. Why are you so defensive? The hate was bound to happen anyway. Effort is on a pretty hot streak, its all that matters | ||
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Eiserne
United States340 Posts
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ella_guru
Canada1741 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On June 06 2010 08:08 disciple wrote: Why are you so defensive? The hate was bound to happen anyway. Effort is on a pretty hot streak, its all that matters I personally dont really get why there needs to be any hate at all When CJ wins I go "YEAH CJ" what I dont do is go "YEAH SUCK IT SKT LOSERS, YOURE JUST NOOBS AFTER ALL" | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 06 2010 11:52 7mk wrote: I personally dont really get why there needs to be any hate at all When CJ wins I go "YEAH CJ" what I dont do is go "YEAH SUCK IT SKT LOSERS, YOURE JUST NOOBS AFTER ALL" I've made this same comment when SKT lost during it's hot streak last year. People in LR threads are just idiots. There's no need for any of the hate, but it's going to happen anyway. | ||
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United States715 Posts
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United States121 Posts
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