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TotalDominator
Profile Joined February 2009
United States30 Posts
May 22 2010 11:48 GMT
#3821
these commercials are so long..
PerfectMan for Bonjwa!
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8202 Posts
May 22 2010 11:48 GMT
#3822
On May 22 2010 20:44 Highways wrote:
Terran has such an advantage over zerg.

GG finals thread is complete, we have a Highways post. Now you know it's legit.

Anyways... victory does seem a bit more hollow because of the gay hour delay, but I think that's just because I'm tired and don't really care that much.

And this series doesn't make me feel great about Flash's chances v Jaedong...
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
May 22 2010 11:48 GMT
#3823
On May 22 2010 20:47 o[twist] wrote:
let's not talk about effort - let's talk about flash

what triggered his starsense there? did effort have few enough mutas out that flash knew lurkers were coming? had flash scanned the hydra den? did he suspect from the muta movements that he was being baited?


He's enlightened dude, didn't you hear about that?
KTY
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
May 22 2010 11:48 GMT
#3824
man im a huge flash fan but it's such a pity for effort that the first game was remade... cj coaching staff have shown a great track of record of having crazy shit ready for one game situations against flash, eg movie vs flash game 1 osl finals and snow vs flash pl ace match. And effort's build was pretty ridiculous, showing hydra den (but no hydras, maybe a fake) plus 4 hatches off of two base... his best chance of winning was probably in game 1 but he lost the element of surprise with the regame. sad.
manner
Antiochus
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada548 Posts
May 22 2010 11:49 GMT
#3825
Effort needs to 5 pool so i can go to sleep
All play and no work makes Jack unemployed.
cokencheese
Profile Joined October 2009
Philippines748 Posts
May 22 2010 11:49 GMT
#3826
On May 22 2010 20:43 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 20:42 cokencheese wrote:
Another zerg dying to a dropship in his main.

Effort doesn't look very prepared for this series. Flash has been playing this exact style for months now.


He was well prepared with a super strong build

he just fell apart at some point when flash completely outmultitasked him


He has some strong openings but it looks as though that's as far as his planning goes. He plays like he doesn't know what to expect from Flash at all.
kawatan
Profile Joined January 2010
288 Posts
May 22 2010 11:49 GMT
#3827
flash's gonna mech on fs denchanic style
Han Solo
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom199 Posts
May 22 2010 11:49 GMT
#3828
The one thing I have no idea about is how Flash knew to scan those lurkers. Every other thing he has done were logical assumptions, but that..?
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
May 22 2010 11:49 GMT
#3829
Effort needs to pull a Movie and keep pulling it until 3-2.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 22 2010 11:49 GMT
#3830
Such awesome display of skill by flash after the initial failure of 4rax +1 preassure.

Constant preassure all over the place while expanding like crazy.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
May 22 2010 11:49 GMT
#3831
On May 22 2010 20:48 kawatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 20:45 KizZBG wrote:
lol only if Effort had Action's late game play.

sigh, looks like another horrible final.


would've lost. action's incredible at mid. mediocre at late.

lol you got it wrong, it's the other way round.
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
grax
Profile Joined June 2009
United States41 Posts
May 22 2010 11:49 GMT
#3832
It was really obvious that mutas were baiting Flash's army into hold-lurkers. Don't have to be a pro-gamer to read that. Flash's play is standard attack-move gameplay, Effort's not playing properly since he was robbed of game 1.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 11:50:12
May 22 2010 11:49 GMT
#3833
On May 22 2010 20:47 o[twist] wrote:
let's not talk about effort - let's talk about flash

what triggered his starsense there? did effort have few enough mutas out that flash knew lurkers were coming? had flash scanned the hydra den? did he suspect from the muta movements that he was being baited?


Flash knows his timings, and in his last 3 games (3.5 including the rematch) effort has gone for an early spire+den for a fake/combined build (making it harder for flash to know what to expect). Flash learned after losing that proleague match expecting mutas and ending up with valks vs lurkers.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
unionbank
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia666 Posts
May 22 2010 11:49 GMT
#3834
COMEBACK EFFORT LETS TAKE THIS HOME YEAH BABBBBBBEARR
김정우.... 이겼다!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HopLight
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden999 Posts
May 22 2010 11:50 GMT
#3835
On May 22 2010 20:48 kawatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 20:45 KizZBG wrote:
lol only if Effort had Action's late game play.

sigh, looks like another horrible final.


would've lost. action's incredible at mid. mediocre at late.


Wait wait wait, you are saying Action is increadible at using mutas midgame and mediocre at Defiler usage lategame?
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
May 22 2010 11:50 GMT
#3836
hahahaha roffles you're killing me~
#1 Flash / #2 NaDa / #3 Stats fan / KT fan for life
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
May 22 2010 11:50 GMT
#3837
Flash's experience showing...he's controlling his nerves amazingly, while effort is making mistakes. I guess this is where the debacle from the Nate MSL is helping Flash
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
May 22 2010 11:50 GMT
#3838
please flash make it short!
rush time!

or hmm. no
save the rushes for the dong.

good old save macro game;)
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
RushWifDietCoke
Profile Joined May 2008
United States488 Posts
May 22 2010 11:50 GMT
#3839
This is where Jaedong would come back to win 3-2
Nothing to it but to do it.
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 11:50:56
May 22 2010 11:50 GMT
#3840
On May 22 2010 20:47 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 20:44 PoP wrote:
On May 22 2010 20:43 sushiman wrote:
Effort made so many mistakes it's no wonder he could hardly get past go.go -_-


This. It's unbelievable how hard he was able to screw things up after Flash's failed all-in.

Even the mutaling micro was terrible, he didn't attack with both at the same time.

it wasn't an all-in by flash and terrans can afford to do that with four rax opening. even though he lost his army, he delayed (pretty much nullified) a potentially dangerous mutalisk harass and killed drones as well. i think you guys are being too harsh on effort. he's not playing particularly great or anything but flash is just unhuman right now. effort has a pretty nasty zvt


All-in was bad wording on my part indeed, but his 4 raxes didn't achieve anything and he lost his whole army killing 3 sunkens and a couple drones, so he was pretty far behind especially since Effort has had his 3 bases really really early.

Effort just did everything possibly wrong from that point. The mutaling micro, the random scourges just sent to die, the mutalisks running over Flash's marines for like 3 full seconds before Effort noticed, etc.

It was just straightout bad imo, though Flash definitely helped make it look like this.
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