EPTYou don't lose anything by doing forward rax. Anybody can forward rax and if that's not 12 nex, you just continue your build, business as usual.
[MSL] Semi-Final A - Page 23
| Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments |
|
Biff The Understudy
France7949 Posts
You don't lose anything by doing forward rax. Anybody can forward rax and if that's not 12 nex, you just continue your build, business as usual. | ||
|
o[twist]
United States4903 Posts
| ||
|
tenacity
1587 Posts
| ||
|
De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On May 13 2010 19:15 Biff The Understudy wrote: This serie marks the end of the 12 nexus reign. Flash proves the world that with good micro, terran doesn't need to make any concession (normal 11 rax into 4 rines) to his normal build order to lolrape 12 nexus early game. /12 nex, we won't regret you. no..... You just have to respond properly. | ||
|
Audigy
United States200 Posts
| ||
|
radadaundandan
Bulgaria3148 Posts
| ||
|
SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On May 13 2010 19:17 Biff The Understudy wrote: You don't lose anything by doing forward rax. Anybody can forward rax and if that's not 12 nex, you just continue your build, business as usual. actually you do, 2 gate would rape forward rax, and even if the protoss goes one gate, you lose the rax which is an important part of your wall. | ||
|
GeLaar
2421 Posts
| ||
|
Biff The Understudy
France7949 Posts
Free tried twice, and twice Flash pwned him with the exact same shit. Flash early game style seems to be a hard counter to 12 nex. | ||
|
Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
| ||
|
QibingZero
2611 Posts
On May 13 2010 19:16 Lann555 wrote: Alot of people here seem to overlook the simple fact that Free needs some sort of early game advantage to have a chance vs Flash. If he plays standard, he loses. Free is gambling, because he has no other choice A lot of people have mentioned this, actually. Though I highly doubt free actually believes this. He was likely extremely confident in defending his 12nex (not surprising since free is a strong micro player) in practice, so he's just doing what works. | ||
|
Biff The Understudy
France7949 Posts
On May 13 2010 19:18 SuperArc wrote: actually you do, 2 gate would rape forward rax, and even if the protoss goes one gate, you lose the rax which is an important part of your wall. 2 gates non proxied, and I guess Flash would just build fact at his wall? His scouting scv makes it really early to his opponent's base. | ||
|
Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
 Flash not winning both starleagues will be a huge upset. | ||
|
QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
On May 13 2010 19:18 QibingZero wrote: A lot of people have mentioned this, actually. Though I highly doubt free actually believes this. He was likely extremely confident in defending his 12nex (not surprising since free is a strong micro player) in practice, so he's just doing what works. Too bad for him that his Terran practice partners weren't on Flash's level, eh? | ||
|
Bael
Australia49 Posts
On May 13 2010 19:18 GeLaar wrote: Fucking infuriating... After qualifying for the semi-finals, Free said in the interview: "I will show you Protoss' strength." And then all he comes up with is consecutive 12-nex... This. Surely these Tosses know that Flash is going to put a forward rax out, and it costs him very little to make marines once he spots the 12 nex. He's got the number of the 12 nex, its time for some 2 gate pressure play from Free, show off more of that goon micro | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States7818 Posts
 | ||
|
Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
On May 13 2010 19:18 Biff The Understudy wrote: Free tried twice, and twice Flash pwned him with the exact same shit. Flash early game style seems to be a hard counter to 12 nex. This series is only skewed because Flash guessed twice correctly (on good grounds of course), you can't just always open with proxy rax. | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On May 13 2010 19:18 Biff The Understudy wrote: Free tried twice, and twice Flash pwned him with the exact same shit. Flash early game style seems to be a hard counter to 12 nex. well I mean, Flash's forward rax is working so effectively because he knows Protoss players will 12 Nex to start with an economic advantage. You make it seem like forward rax doesn't hurt the Terran but if Protoss decides to zealot harass or early goon pressure the forward rax makes a huge difference. there's no sim city and there is no wall. | ||
|
moopie
12605 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States7818 Posts
| ||
| ||
