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On May 07 2010 19:42 khellian wrote:I have a really strong dislike for Flash (can't stand his smug smile everytime he wins to name one thing - ie after almost every match), but I can't deny that he is fucking amazin. Don't think I have ever seen such overall solid play from anyone. At the moment it just feels like he cannot lose a BO3+ at all. Not even to Jaedong... 
Flash lately has been pretty emotionless after wins.
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konadora
Singapore66163 Posts
lol Pure had like 6000 more minerals and 3k more gas than flash
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On May 07 2010 19:42 khellian wrote:I have a really strong dislike for Flash (can't stand his smug smile everytime he wins to name one thing - ie after almost every match), but I can't deny that he is fucking amazin. Don't think I have ever seen such overall solid play from anyone. At the moment it just feels like he cannot lose a BO3+ at all. Not even to Jaedong...  Smug smile? You are just making shit up in your head man! XD
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On May 07 2010 19:42 J1.au wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2010 19:40 samachking wrote:On May 07 2010 19:39 purpose wrote: This series was over before it started tbh. There was no way Flash would lose 3 games to Pure.
Must feel so frustraiting for Pure to actually play well and still lose. He isnt playing well though, every single Dragon and Movie has better PvT than that, and they wouldve won game 2 75%. Yeah, the Dragons sure have been dominating this year!
They aren't dominating, but they wont lose 3 base Terran vs 6 base toss. And they can actually keep up with Flash in Macro, and one of them actually outmacros Flash(Best).
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flash avg 348 high 495 low 197
pure avg 323 high 449 low 193
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On May 07 2010 19:43 konadora wrote: lol Pure had like 6000 more minerals and 3k more gas than flash
unbelievable, but Flash's micro was the difference.
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replay shows attacking with pure goons and leaves his lots in his main..-.-
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On May 07 2010 19:41 SuperArc wrote: How am I trolling? All I am saying is that Movie is a better player than Pure which is true.
Movie won on the same map with a way less favoured position and completely crushed Flash in that game. Movie's macro is better than Pure's, hell even his Micro probably is.
And before anyone says "But Pure defeated Movie!" Since when does the better player always advance?
Who the fuck cares about Movie. Last time I checked, he got smashed out of the MSL by a Samsung Zerg and got kicked out of the OSL by Pure.
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On May 07 2010 19:41 Sadistx wrote: Fun little fact, Flash is 80% in 2010, Pure is 52%.
This means Flash won 4 games for every 1 loss (4:1), and pure is ~ 1:1.
Yeah, Flash is pretty much unstoppable vs anyone below a 2:1 ratio. Flash's PvT Record: 20 wins - 2 losses (90.91%) from December 31 up until yesterday.
1 lose was to Movie, the other was to M18M
Soon to be 23-2 over the last 5 months, 7 days :p
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replay shows pure made an engagement mistake and lost a ton of zealots by not engaging with his entire army at the same time
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On May 07 2010 19:39 Severedevil wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2010 19:37 Qwertify wrote:On May 07 2010 19:36 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On May 07 2010 19:34 Mooncat wrote: Flash is starting to give me the creeps....... That was SO unreal... I mean, he basically just killed him. Ignored all his bases, ignored everything and just went ahead and KILLED him...
Flash is Ender. He killed him at all his bases simultaneously while he defended and cleaned up his 3rd. ...because Pure had no units, because Pure threw them away. If you aren't impressed by Flash's play then you aren't a fan of bw in my opinon. You don't have to like him, hell you can even hate him, but to say that he isn't impressive is just flat out denial.
All starleaguers are extremely good players. Freaks of nature even. To describe that game as Pure "just throwing away units... so he had not units" completely undermines the beauty of Brood War and that game.
It was a sick game, with amazing play by both sides. Flash was just one step ahead in multitasking, so in every fight he was controlling a bit better. As a result his advantage grew with every engagement despite having fewer bases.
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On May 07 2010 19:42 J1.au wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2010 19:40 samachking wrote:On May 07 2010 19:39 purpose wrote: This series was over before it started tbh. There was no way Flash would lose 3 games to Pure.
Must feel so frustraiting for Pure to actually play well and still lose. He isnt playing well though, every single Dragon and Movie has better PvT than that, and they wouldve won game 2 75%. Yeah, the Dragons sure have been dominating this year!
Free and Kal, yo!
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On May 07 2010 19:41 SuperArc wrote: How am I trolling? All I am saying is that Movie is a better player than Pure which is true.
Movie won on the same map with a way less favoured position and completely crushed Flash in that game. Movie's macro is better than Pure's, hell even his Micro probably is.
And before anyone says "But Pure defeated Movie!" Since when does the better player always advance?
You can still argue that Movie's PvT is better than Pure's. But whatever, I don't see the need to keep emphasizing the point. It gets old.
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On May 07 2010 19:43 konadora wrote: lol Pure had like 6000 more minerals and 3k more gas than flash For having 6 bases his macro is godawful. He should have had at least 20 gates across bases, while he had like...10-12 at most ?
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On May 07 2010 19:41 SuperArc wrote: How am I trolling? All I am saying is that Movie is a better player than Pure which is true.
Movie won on the same map with a way less favoured position and completely crushed Flash in that game. Movie's macro is better than Pure's, hell even his Micro probably is.
And before anyone says "But Pure defeated Movie!" Since when does the better player always advance?
did just pure raped movie like a noob one week ago 2-0... stop talking about how movie >>> pure
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On May 07 2010 19:45 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2010 19:39 Severedevil wrote:On May 07 2010 19:37 Qwertify wrote:On May 07 2010 19:36 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On May 07 2010 19:34 Mooncat wrote: Flash is starting to give me the creeps....... That was SO unreal... I mean, he basically just killed him. Ignored all his bases, ignored everything and just went ahead and KILLED him...
Flash is Ender. He killed him at all his bases simultaneously while he defended and cleaned up his 3rd. ...because Pure had no units, because Pure threw them away. If you aren't impressed by Flash's play then you aren't a fan of bw in my opinon. You don't have to like him, hell you can even hate him, but to say that he isn't impressive is just flat out denial. All starleaguers are extremely good players. Freaks of nature even. To describe that game as pure "just throwing away units, so he had not units" completely undermines the beauty of brood war and that game. It was a sick game, with amazing play by both sides. Flash was just one step ahead in multitasking, so in every fight he was controlling better so his advantage grew with every engagement despite having fewer bases.
seconding this
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United States20661 Posts
Ender is actually a pretty good nickname for Flash. Or analogy, or what have you.
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konadora
Singapore66163 Posts
On May 07 2010 19:45 Sadistx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2010 19:43 konadora wrote: lol Pure had like 6000 more minerals and 3k more gas than flash For having 6 bases his macro is godawful. He should have had at least 20 gates across bases, while he had like...10-12 at most ? it was 9 fact vs 8 gate when Flash pushed lol
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it's getting pretty pointless to use statistics to describe how dominant flash is right now
do you know what's an impressive statistic? any time flash loses a game
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On May 07 2010 19:42 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2010 19:41 SuperArc wrote: How am I trolling? All I am saying is that Movie is a better player than Pure which is true.
Movie won on the same map with a way less favoured position and completely crushed Flash in that game. Movie's macro is better than Pure's, hell even his Micro probably is.
And before anyone says "But Pure defeated Movie!" Since when does the better player always advance? But why are you going on and on about that in this LR thread? Analyzing Pure isn't off-topic.
I know Flash is the protagonist here in this OSL, but Pure does have a role. You know, as one of the minor evil henchmen that get obliterated along the way.
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