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Yes like the aniti vulture wall that he made against sea with his depots. Someone else mentioned this (I forgot who! sorry D and it was just so clever
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On April 19 2010 21:34 J1.au wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 21:29 7mk wrote:On April 19 2010 21:27 J1.au wrote:On April 19 2010 21:19 konadora wrote:On April 19 2010 21:16 J1.au wrote:On April 19 2010 21:09 konadora wrote:On April 19 2010 21:03 J1.au wrote:On April 19 2010 21:00 Ilikestarcraft wrote:On April 19 2010 20:51 J1.au wrote:On April 19 2010 20:49 konadora wrote:
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look at fOrGG rofl I get the feeling that Flash keeps his secrets to himself. I have no doubt that Flash could improve every player in his team if he wanted to. However it would come at a cost to his own dominance. nope if you saw the pro rep leak a lot of flash's reps were the ones leaked. He definitely is a lot more open. I heard jaedong never shares his reps. I'm not talking about secret strategies or timings you can get from replays. Rather the unique way Flash approaches the game, in particular, his decision making processes. He is very capable of explaining why he does things, I don't believe he does so however. it's just his mentality and maturity. he's learnt a lot after his first OSL win, hence that breakdown into tears after his second OSL win. Flash doesn't win game after game against great players simply because he's more mature or has a better mentality. He understands the game better than them, so he's able to consistently make the best choices possible. I'm saying the change in how he looks at the game and how he thinks as he plays it has helped him what he is today. He specifically mentions it several times in post-game interviews. He also drives fear into his opponents, and he capitalizes on that. Why are we even talking about the OSL? I agree that it was important to him! I was originally saying that Flash is more than capable of improving his teammates but chooses not to. Mainly because it would be a waste of time he could spend on his own games. This is why KT is bad while Flash is awesome. It usually takes two players to play a game of starcraft. Wow! You just convinced me I was wrong. What a compelling and faultless argument!
It's not like you had a good argument to begin with
Anyway, it was nice to see Stats get a good win after that small losing streak he had going and despite how fun it is to see Flash win, the ace match was a bit disappointing.
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On April 19 2010 22:15 cabarkapa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 21:34 J1.au wrote:On April 19 2010 21:29 7mk wrote:On April 19 2010 21:27 J1.au wrote:On April 19 2010 21:19 konadora wrote:On April 19 2010 21:16 J1.au wrote:On April 19 2010 21:09 konadora wrote:On April 19 2010 21:03 J1.au wrote:On April 19 2010 21:00 Ilikestarcraft wrote:On April 19 2010 20:51 J1.au wrote:
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I get the feeling that Flash keeps his secrets to himself. I have no doubt that Flash could improve every player in his team if he wanted to. However it would come at a cost to his own dominance. nope if you saw the pro rep leak a lot of flash's reps were the ones leaked. He definitely is a lot more open. I heard jaedong never shares his reps. I'm not talking about secret strategies or timings you can get from replays. Rather the unique way Flash approaches the game, in particular, his decision making processes. He is very capable of explaining why he does things, I don't believe he does so however. it's just his mentality and maturity. he's learnt a lot after his first OSL win, hence that breakdown into tears after his second OSL win. Flash doesn't win game after game against great players simply because he's more mature or has a better mentality. He understands the game better than them, so he's able to consistently make the best choices possible. I'm saying the change in how he looks at the game and how he thinks as he plays it has helped him what he is today. He specifically mentions it several times in post-game interviews. He also drives fear into his opponents, and he capitalizes on that. Why are we even talking about the OSL? I agree that it was important to him! I was originally saying that Flash is more than capable of improving his teammates but chooses not to. Mainly because it would be a waste of time he could spend on his own games. This is why KT is bad while Flash is awesome. It usually takes two players to play a game of starcraft. Wow! You just convinced me I was wrong. What a compelling and faultless argument! It's not like you had a good argument to begin with Anyway, it was nice to see Stats get a good win after that small losing streak he had going and despite how fun it is to see Flash win, the ace match was a bit disappointing.
Nice, got any more one-liners to throw my way?
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On April 19 2010 22:20 J1.au wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 22:15 cabarkapa wrote:On April 19 2010 21:34 J1.au wrote:On April 19 2010 21:29 7mk wrote:On April 19 2010 21:27 J1.au wrote:On April 19 2010 21:19 konadora wrote:On April 19 2010 21:16 J1.au wrote:On April 19 2010 21:09 konadora wrote:On April 19 2010 21:03 J1.au wrote:On April 19 2010 21:00 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
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nope if you saw the pro rep leak a lot of flash's reps were the ones leaked. He definitely is a lot more open. I heard jaedong never shares his reps. I'm not talking about secret strategies or timings you can get from replays. Rather the unique way Flash approaches the game, in particular, his decision making processes. He is very capable of explaining why he does things, I don't believe he does so however. it's just his mentality and maturity. he's learnt a lot after his first OSL win, hence that breakdown into tears after his second OSL win. Flash doesn't win game after game against great players simply because he's more mature or has a better mentality. He understands the game better than them, so he's able to consistently make the best choices possible. I'm saying the change in how he looks at the game and how he thinks as he plays it has helped him what he is today. He specifically mentions it several times in post-game interviews. He also drives fear into his opponents, and he capitalizes on that. Why are we even talking about the OSL? I agree that it was important to him! I was originally saying that Flash is more than capable of improving his teammates but chooses not to. Mainly because it would be a waste of time he could spend on his own games. This is why KT is bad while Flash is awesome. It usually takes two players to play a game of starcraft. Wow! You just convinced me I was wrong. What a compelling and faultless argument! It's not like you had a good argument to begin with Anyway, it was nice to see Stats get a good win after that small losing streak he had going and despite how fun it is to see Flash win, the ace match was a bit disappointing. Nice, got any more one-liners to throw my way?
I'm confused is a "one-liner" supposed to be a sentence that is one line of text?
If you are trying to insinuate that what I said was a joke you would have to be pretty arrogant to believe that what you wrote prior was sound or had any good reasoning at all.
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Sigh, Zero really shouldn't be losing to Stats.
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Flash: Any BM against my team is a BM against ME... I am the team.
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Flash my good captain ahhh. Worth my 12 points kkk
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On April 19 2010 22:26 cabarkapa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 22:20 J1.au wrote:On April 19 2010 22:15 cabarkapa wrote:On April 19 2010 21:34 J1.au wrote:On April 19 2010 21:29 7mk wrote:On April 19 2010 21:27 J1.au wrote:On April 19 2010 21:19 konadora wrote:On April 19 2010 21:16 J1.au wrote:On April 19 2010 21:09 konadora wrote:On April 19 2010 21:03 J1.au wrote:
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I'm not talking about secret strategies or timings you can get from replays. Rather the unique way Flash approaches the game, in particular, his decision making processes. He is very capable of explaining why he does things, I don't believe he does so however. it's just his mentality and maturity. he's learnt a lot after his first OSL win, hence that breakdown into tears after his second OSL win. Flash doesn't win game after game against great players simply because he's more mature or has a better mentality. He understands the game better than them, so he's able to consistently make the best choices possible. I'm saying the change in how he looks at the game and how he thinks as he plays it has helped him what he is today. He specifically mentions it several times in post-game interviews. He also drives fear into his opponents, and he capitalizes on that. Why are we even talking about the OSL? I agree that it was important to him! I was originally saying that Flash is more than capable of improving his teammates but chooses not to. Mainly because it would be a waste of time he could spend on his own games. This is why KT is bad while Flash is awesome. It usually takes two players to play a game of starcraft. Wow! You just convinced me I was wrong. What a compelling and faultless argument! It's not like you had a good argument to begin with Anyway, it was nice to see Stats get a good win after that small losing streak he had going and despite how fun it is to see Flash win, the ace match was a bit disappointing. Nice, got any more one-liners to throw my way? I'm confused is a "one-liner" supposed to be a sentence that is one line of text? If you are trying to insinuate that what I said was a joke you would have to be pretty arrogant to believe that what you wrote prior was sound or had any good reasoning at all.
A one-liner is a one line post that takes a minimum of effort. It's fine in most contexts, but if you're saying I'm wrong you'll have to do better. It's lazy and reflects poorly on you.
If you think I'm wrong, please tell me why. I'm more than happy to learn new things.
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On April 19 2010 22:38 J1.au wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 22:26 cabarkapa wrote:On April 19 2010 22:20 J1.au wrote:On April 19 2010 22:15 cabarkapa wrote:On April 19 2010 21:34 J1.au wrote:On April 19 2010 21:29 7mk wrote:On April 19 2010 21:27 J1.au wrote:On April 19 2010 21:19 konadora wrote:On April 19 2010 21:16 J1.au wrote:On April 19 2010 21:09 konadora wrote:
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it's just his mentality and maturity. he's learnt a lot after his first OSL win, hence that breakdown into tears after his second OSL win. Flash doesn't win game after game against great players simply because he's more mature or has a better mentality. He understands the game better than them, so he's able to consistently make the best choices possible. I'm saying the change in how he looks at the game and how he thinks as he plays it has helped him what he is today. He specifically mentions it several times in post-game interviews. He also drives fear into his opponents, and he capitalizes on that. Why are we even talking about the OSL? I agree that it was important to him! I was originally saying that Flash is more than capable of improving his teammates but chooses not to. Mainly because it would be a waste of time he could spend on his own games. This is why KT is bad while Flash is awesome. It usually takes two players to play a game of starcraft. Wow! You just convinced me I was wrong. What a compelling and faultless argument! It's not like you had a good argument to begin with Anyway, it was nice to see Stats get a good win after that small losing streak he had going and despite how fun it is to see Flash win, the ace match was a bit disappointing. Nice, got any more one-liners to throw my way? I'm confused is a "one-liner" supposed to be a sentence that is one line of text? If you are trying to insinuate that what I said was a joke you would have to be pretty arrogant to believe that what you wrote prior was sound or had any good reasoning at all. A one-liner is a one line post that takes a minimum of effort. It's fine in most contexts, but if you're saying I'm wrong you'll have to do better. It's lazy and reflects poorly on you. If you think I'm wrong, please tell me why. I'm more than happy to learn new things.
I never said you were wrong, I merely said you had a poor argument, and that did not warrant acting like a pompous asshole.
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On April 19 2010 22:45 cabarkapa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 22:38 J1.au wrote:On April 19 2010 22:26 cabarkapa wrote:On April 19 2010 22:20 J1.au wrote:On April 19 2010 22:15 cabarkapa wrote:On April 19 2010 21:34 J1.au wrote:On April 19 2010 21:29 7mk wrote:On April 19 2010 21:27 J1.au wrote:On April 19 2010 21:19 konadora wrote:On April 19 2010 21:16 J1.au wrote:
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Flash doesn't win game after game against great players simply because he's more mature or has a better mentality. He understands the game better than them, so he's able to consistently make the best choices possible. I'm saying the change in how he looks at the game and how he thinks as he plays it has helped him what he is today. He specifically mentions it several times in post-game interviews. He also drives fear into his opponents, and he capitalizes on that. Why are we even talking about the OSL? I agree that it was important to him! I was originally saying that Flash is more than capable of improving his teammates but chooses not to. Mainly because it would be a waste of time he could spend on his own games. This is why KT is bad while Flash is awesome. It usually takes two players to play a game of starcraft. Wow! You just convinced me I was wrong. What a compelling and faultless argument! It's not like you had a good argument to begin with Anyway, it was nice to see Stats get a good win after that small losing streak he had going and despite how fun it is to see Flash win, the ace match was a bit disappointing. Nice, got any more one-liners to throw my way? I'm confused is a "one-liner" supposed to be a sentence that is one line of text? If you are trying to insinuate that what I said was a joke you would have to be pretty arrogant to believe that what you wrote prior was sound or had any good reasoning at all. A one-liner is a one line post that takes a minimum of effort. It's fine in most contexts, but if you're saying I'm wrong you'll have to do better. It's lazy and reflects poorly on you. If you think I'm wrong, please tell me why. I'm more than happy to learn new things. I never said you were wrong, I merely said you had a poor argument, and that did not warrant acting like a pompous asshole.
Ok, maybe you can tell me how to improve my argument?
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On April 19 2010 20:00 Itachii wrote:
KT for 6 points -___-
>.>
Whyyy did I trade Stats?
Oh well.
On April 19 2010 20:29 integral wrote:
this is getting ridiculous, flash is TOO sick. it's becoming hard to cheer for him
It's always delightful to watch perfection.
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On April 19 2010 21:49 LuigiNMario wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 21:39 dukethegold wrote:Ptff, it's all Zero's fault.  Flash is imba, and needs a severe nerf, yeah yeah, we all know that. Just what i wanted to say
Shush, Stats played fucking good.
Guys, remember that Effort lost to Stats as well (and effort haven't been slumping in ZvP).
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Nice. With Flash > Free, Flash has now simultaneously beaten the last of the six dragons since his ridiculous tear, broken his own TvP elo record, and his TvP has reached 70%, meaning 70+% across all matchups.
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I like how M18M has the fifth highest PvT elo because he beat Flash once and then never played again.
I mean I know Fakesteve is gonna come in here and call me a retard and say how great M18M is at PvT because he crushed Sea that one time and whenever a nobody beats Sea they're automatically amazing, but it's still pretty funny that someone who's played one game of PvT in the past 2 seasons (hasn't played televised since GOM S3 before Flash) is #5 PvT.
ps: Stats fucking rules and I will hear nothing else. It's not a shame for Zero to lose to him. Stats played straight up and won with very solid play. Violet could learn from that.
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On April 19 2010 22:14 Wurzelbrumpft wrote:
Uncountable korean´s aspiring to become big in starcraft, tons of semipro clans and houses, often investing as much time as any pro. Frequent tournaments with only one out of 264 players getting a prolicense without a guaranteed spot in a proteam. The proteams themselves having a B-team and an A-team, while the players we see on TV or streams are the absolute, most talented, best of the best.
And there´s still someone who dominates these players to this ridiculous degree. God, i love starcraft
Epic statement. Too bad it's too long for a witty signature.
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On April 19 2010 23:51 lolaloc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 22:14 Wurzelbrumpft wrote:
Uncountable korean´s aspiring to become big in starcraft, tons of semipro clans and houses, often investing as much time as any pro. Frequent tournaments with only one out of 264 players getting a prolicense without a guaranteed spot in a proteam. The proteams themselves having a B-team and an A-team, while the players we see on TV or streams are the absolute, most talented, best of the best.
And there´s still someone who dominates these players to this ridiculous degree. God, i love starcraft Epic statement. Too bad it's too long for a witty signature.
but there is more
these "uncountable koreans" would absolutely dominate a myriad of more casual/foreign players
keeping all this in mind, flash's skill is almost beyond comprehension for us mortals
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On April 19 2010 23:36 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 21:49 LuigiNMario wrote:On April 19 2010 21:39 dukethegold wrote:Ptff, it's all Zero's fault. Flash is imba, and needs a severe nerf, yeah yeah, we all know that. Just what i wanted to say Shush, Stats played fucking good. Guys, remember that Effort lost to Stats as well (and effort haven't been slumping in ZvP).
Not the same thing. Stats used the Movie Goon rush build to defeat Effort.
That goon rush build was made famous when Movie (just after he debuted) defeated Jaedong (non-slumping and raping) with it. It's pretty much the Protoss version of 2 factory.
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Zero lost this for stars.
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If Zerg prepares adequately he is in a much better position than the Zerg though. If Protoss holds a 2factory Terran isn't nearly as behind as the Protoss would be IMO.
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I usually hate when people start searching for bonjwas, but for the first time in years I'm saying "Yes, we do have a bonjwa"
Actually, Flash is so fucking invencible that I don't even think calling him a bonjwa is enough. He seems to be in another category. He's the first Godjwa.
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