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purpose
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden1017 Posts
March 05 2010 11:59 GMT
#901
On March 05 2010 20:49 NguN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2010 20:44 baubo wrote:
On March 05 2010 20:35 Black Gun wrote:
why is it always bisu who´s getting knocked out early from the leagues by lesser players who happen to play absolutely amazing for their standards when they face him? do flash´s or jaedong´s first-round opponents ever play way above their true skilllevel?

thats no excuse for bisus misdecisions that game, but still it feels like its always him to run into lesser players who play fantastic all of a sudden.


Since when are 2-factory pushes or Rax->Expansion "amazing" plays? You can call them cheap, or cheesy, but hardly "amazing".


Difference is that Flash and Jaedong play very safe when they play against lesser opponents, and are wary of cheese.

For instance, Jaedong went overpool against go.go last OSL, which is probably because he figured that go.go would go for a bunker rush, or a heavy economic build. go.go went 14CC and Jaedong rolled him.

Flash, in a TvZ (not sure against who, but pretty sure in last OSL) built a second bunker just to be safe, not even knowing about the lurker tech and managed to fend off the push because of it.

If Bisu had gone 2 gate goon range he would've rolled go.go


Also at least Terran and Zerg have 1 huge star that more or less show their class. Toss has Stork and you know that he can fail and will more or less to anyone.

Sure Toss have players who can do good, looka t movie last OSL but they dont have that superstar that Terran and Zerg does.

Toss more has one player who could be it, but instead is on the 2nd level were Terran and Zerg have alot of players who can win vs anybody but not really go all the way.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
March 05 2010 11:59 GMT
#902
On March 05 2010 20:49 NiTenIchiRyu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2010 20:46 san-tokie wrote:
Boxer said it best - when a star player loses, in the end it's not the fans that it hurts, but esports.

I'd rather have a decent unknown player, than a star player who is obviously past his prime.

oh god

what the fuck did i just read
POGGERS
deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
March 05 2010 12:02 GMT
#903
Bisu isn't past his prime, he is still good and can clearly play very well. He just had a bad series and lost to a bug, no big deal, there is always next OSL (there clearly will be a next OSL, those thinking otherwise are clueless).
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
March 05 2010 12:09 GMT
#904
God I just saw go.go go two fact and thought, "Bisu's going to rule out 2 fact, you'd have to be an idiot to do it cross positions AND build that many marines". Oh god. What have I done.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
March 05 2010 12:10 GMT
#905
On March 05 2010 20:49 NiTenIchiRyu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2010 20:46 san-tokie wrote:
Boxer said it best - when a star player loses, in the end it's not the fans that it hurts, but esports.

I'd rather have a decent unknown player, than a star player who is obviously past his prime.

On March 05 2010 20:59 konadora wrote:
oh god

what the fuck did i just read


this is more shocking.

gogo decent? ew no.
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Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
March 05 2010 12:12 GMT
#906
On March 05 2010 20:53 Severedevil wrote:
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On March 05 2010 20:47 Roffles wrote:
Words don't even describe this abomination of events. Go.Go played like a true bug, pesky little abusing Terran scum.

Well... he abused the shit out of Great Barrier Reef, but that's the fault of mapmakers who gave Terran five easy bases and decided it was balanced. (Hint: Protoss wins by getting a bigger economy than Terran. You can't get a bigger economy than five bases without impinging on your food cap.) 2fac'ing (and hiding a 2fac as an FD) are perfectly normal plays, and it's totally Bisu's fault he failed to scout and deflect it.

lol have you even watched the PvTs on El Nino/Great Barrier Reef? Go.go had a perfect build that prepared perfectly for the reaver counter which is why it looked like it was easy to hold 5 bases.

It's not an easy map to turtle at all, Bisu was just way behind in eco from the opening builds on.
purpose
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden1017 Posts
March 05 2010 12:17 GMT
#907
I think this is it for Bisu. We probably will see him play good games in the future but as far as titles goes, nope Bisu will slowly fade away and become just another hasbeen!!

Sadly but I dont think he has the motivation to get back to nr 1 again.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
March 05 2010 12:19 GMT
#908
On March 05 2010 21:10 mOnion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2010 20:49 NiTenIchiRyu wrote:
On March 05 2010 20:46 san-tokie wrote:
Boxer said it best - when a star player loses, in the end it's not the fans that it hurts, but esports.

I'd rather have a decent unknown player, than a star player who is obviously past his prime.

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2010 20:59 konadora wrote:
oh god

what the fuck did i just read


this is more shocking.

gogo decent? ew no.


Past 2 seasons and this season. Top finishes:

go.go: Bacchus OSL Ro4, Ever OSL Ro16, Korean Air OSL Ro16,
Bisu: Bacchus OSL Ro16, Avalon MSL Ro8, Nate MSL Ro32, Current unnamed MSL Ro32

Did I or did I not just blow your mind?
Meh
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
March 05 2010 12:23 GMT
#909
En, I kinda expected Bisu dropping OSL.

At least Jaedong and Flash are still in the OSL

I do hope for another epic final!!
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
March 05 2010 12:29 GMT
#910
wow

Bisu walking the road of savior.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
March 05 2010 12:31 GMT
#911
On March 05 2010 21:29 SuperArc wrote:
wow

Bisu walking the road of savior.

...

POGGERS
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
March 05 2010 12:32 GMT
#912
lol bisu fails at life.
Gogo has such bad TvP too.
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SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
March 05 2010 12:38 GMT
#913
LOL!!!!!! Omg Bisu hahahahahaha!

Its funny I always disliked Bisu and enjoyed seeing him lose. Maybe because he was just so good and abused protoss tech so masterfully. Now that hes slumping I find I can't dislike him anymore. What the fuck though, how does he lose to such mediocre TvP?
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
March 05 2010 12:40 GMT
#914
On March 05 2010 21:12 Vasoline73 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2010 20:53 Severedevil wrote:
On March 05 2010 20:47 Roffles wrote:
Words don't even describe this abomination of events. Go.Go played like a true bug, pesky little abusing Terran scum.

Well... he abused the shit out of Great Barrier Reef, but that's the fault of mapmakers who gave Terran five easy bases and decided it was balanced. (Hint: Protoss wins by getting a bigger economy than Terran. You can't get a bigger economy than five bases without impinging on your food cap.) 2fac'ing (and hiding a 2fac as an FD) are perfectly normal plays, and it's totally Bisu's fault he failed to scout and deflect it.

lol have you even watched the PvTs on El Nino/Great Barrier Reef? Go.go had a perfect build that prepared perfectly for the reaver counter which is why it looked like it was easy to hold 5 bases.

It's not an easy map to turtle at all, Bisu was just way behind in eco from the opening builds on.


Its not any more imbalanced PvT than Eye of the Storm
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
March 05 2010 12:42 GMT
#915
That Reaver's death in the last game is going to haunt him forever
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
March 05 2010 12:52 GMT
#916
Reaver dead from SCV?

I heard from Interview go.go got very excited doing that~

I feel like watching it too. To see how it happened, how epic it was.

I think I'll be thrilled I can't wait for the VOD~
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 05 2010 12:52 GMT
#917
lol.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
eNoq
Profile Joined June 2009
Netherlands502 Posts
March 05 2010 12:54 GMT
#918
Bisu Bisu Bisuuuuuu its oooover
Proburu
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
March 05 2010 12:56 GMT
#919
well, these results certainly dont surprise me..
beep boop
PangO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Chile1870 Posts
March 05 2010 12:56 GMT
#920
Too much SC2 Bisu.
In Economics, the majority is always wrong. aka: MattRz
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