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haha, beat me to the thread
I just got a stream and was going to post it
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Wow... looks like they're a fair ways into the game
Saint getting a ton of hydras and putting pressure on the front of free
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I think he meant to link Roffles, since both Roffles and Orange TV are streaming
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Nice storm!!! free moving around with a handful of zealots, archons and templar
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Free's PvZ is scary. Here's to Saint prevailing!
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Actually Mystlord was listed in the sidebar for a first time, or was I only interpolating? But w/e, games are being streamed and that's great!
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Saint getting a Queens nest and teching to Hive. free breaks out of the weak lurker contain with minimal losses
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On February 27 2010 17:20 GinNtoniC wrote:Free's PvZ is scary. Here's to Saint prevailing!  plz no, tooo many fucking mediocre zergs in every SL. Free has a nice sized ball with a third base incoming. running through lurkers though...
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free is playing this very methodically, I like the style. Expo with zeal block, templar, and a huge army in the middle of the map. Saint will have trouble getting a 4th any time soon.
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Fantasy v.s. Free should be good, if it happens.
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Saint setting up a fourth... the toss ball is rolling and Saint doesn't look to have very much atm
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Seriously, don't scorn Saint. You can dislike any random Zerg who comes along, but Saint is really cool and oldschool.
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Defilers should be out shortly, but nicely placed storms make short work of the lurkers and lings sent to delay the toss
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On February 27 2010 17:23 Aesop wrote: Seriously, don't scorn Saint. You can dislike any random Zerg who comes along, but Saint is really cool and oldschool. this. Saint is in my book one of the coolest and most respect-worthy zergs out there. This guy totally shines through from time to time, even though I don't give him the best of odds in advancing here..
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Wow, free managed that attack perfectly. I hope I can steal some of his techniques for breaking lurker fields.
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Saints army was stomped by free... his archons heavy force is going to be brutal unless saint can pull something off
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And Saint ggs! free to winner's
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free marches into the nat and Saint doesn't have anything to fend it off. GG
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There it is, gg. Free pushes through the nat and it's over, right before consume comes into play on Saint's defilers.
Too bad, too bad
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i'm still wondering why hasn't free ever been to the finals with the skills he have =/
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On February 27 2010 17:26 konadora wrote: i'm still wondering why hasn't free ever been to the finals with the skills he have =/ Other protosses
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On February 27 2010 17:26 konadora wrote: i'm still wondering why hasn't free ever been to the finals with the skills he have =/ Savior. Bisu. Jangbi. In that order basically.
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On February 27 2010 17:26 konadora wrote: i'm still wondering why hasn't free ever been to the finals with the skills he have =/ Probably because he's never really had the skills to get there...
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On February 27 2010 17:29 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 17:26 konadora wrote: i'm still wondering why hasn't free ever been to the finals with the skills he have =/ Probably because he's never really had the skills to get there...
free always had the best micro out of all the dragons.
He just had the bad luck of horrible brackets, hes easily more skilled than Lux, Kwanro or Calm.
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Thats some really bronze coloured hair from Notice
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He also has quite bad nerves.
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On February 27 2010 17:30 SuperArc wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 17:29 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On February 27 2010 17:26 konadora wrote: i'm still wondering why hasn't free ever been to the finals with the skills he have =/ Probably because he's never really had the skills to get there... free always had the best micro out of all the dragons. He just had the bad luck of horrible brackets, hes easily more skilled than Lux, Kwanro or Calm.
He has the worst macro too out of all the dragons. Only his PvZ micro + goon micro is better though, the rest of them are better than him in everything. He is probably the weakest dragon overall(since Best stepped up his PvZ slightly recently)
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On February 27 2010 17:30 SuperArc wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 17:29 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On February 27 2010 17:26 konadora wrote: i'm still wondering why hasn't free ever been to the finals with the skills he have =/ Probably because he's never really had the skills to get there... free always had the best micro out of all the dragons. He just had the bad luck of horrible brackets, hes easily more skilled than Lux, Kwanro or Calm. Horrible brackets... So in other words he just keeps losing to better players... Hence he does not have the skills to reach the finals... Which is why he never has...
Also, the comment about him being better than Calm, the MSL champion that rolled though Jaedong and Effort, and reached the last OSL semifinals, and is still the second best zerg in the game, is pretty ehhhhhh baseless, I guess?
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Terrans going at it now. Notice is orange and fantasy brown, great colours Fantasy looks to be going for a 14 CC.
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Fantasy in Brown Notice in Orange
This oughta be easy to tell them apart....
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No rax from fantasy yet - 14CC?
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Hmm, I wonder if Notice can punish fantasy for being this greedy. He is scouting in the wrong direction, sadly.
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On February 27 2010 17:34 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 17:30 SuperArc wrote:On February 27 2010 17:29 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On February 27 2010 17:26 konadora wrote: i'm still wondering why hasn't free ever been to the finals with the skills he have =/ Probably because he's never really had the skills to get there... free always had the best micro out of all the dragons. He just had the bad luck of horrible brackets, hes easily more skilled than Lux, Kwanro or Calm. Horrible brackets... So in other words he just keeps losing to better players... Hence he does not have the skills to reach the finals... Which is why he never has...
Still, Free deserved to have a better record in SL than his history indicates.
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It's a 13 CC. Fantasy fast expands at 13 supply in TvT, watch his replays.
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This will work out in fantasy's favour... Notice is gonna scout him last
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2-fact for Notice, interesting!
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2 fact attack! (eventually)
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Oh, notice goes 2 fac WITHOUT even having scouted fantasy. and fantasy lifts off his barracks with 1 marine and a bunker out. This could get interesting.
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Notice going 2-fac, we'll see what pressure he can put on fanta
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wtf 2 fact 1 port for notice lol
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hidden starport for notice in addition to his 2-fact very aggressive
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On February 27 2010 17:30 SuperArc wrote:
He just had the bad luck of horrible brackets, hes easily more skilled than Lux, Kwanro or Calm.
Not really. People grossly underestimate how good Lux was when he made his finals run, and Calm is a beast.
Kwanro maybe, but even that's iffy.
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Hidden starport bottom right for Notice! Starport also for fantasy.
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lol proxy starport from Notice !!!
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fantasy will build a second starport
his 13 CC into 2 port build is insanely good, watch his reps
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Hidden Starport in bottom right main. *shrugs* Okay then.
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control tower as well for notice
fantasy adding his own starport
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On February 27 2010 17:39 dukethegold wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 17:34 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On February 27 2010 17:30 SuperArc wrote:On February 27 2010 17:29 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On February 27 2010 17:26 konadora wrote: i'm still wondering why hasn't free ever been to the finals with the skills he have =/ Probably because he's never really had the skills to get there... free always had the best micro out of all the dragons. He just had the bad luck of horrible brackets, hes easily more skilled than Lux, Kwanro or Calm. Horrible brackets... So in other words he just keeps losing to better players... Hence he does not have the skills to reach the finals... Which is why he never has... Still, Free deserved to have a better record in SL than his history indicates.
He reached the semis twice in the dragons season. Thats not bad.
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Research going for Notice. He's gonna drop vultures I guess, with mines presumably.
nice, runby into the natural mineral line with mines on top. fantasy cannot mine for the moment, but he will be adding scanners soon. Drop into main mineral line is impending.
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notice has mines and a substantial number of vultures - which raid fantasy's nat scvs
here comes the dropship
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vultures get into the nat and force the scvs to run... but a tank is out and should chase them away
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dropship helps the vultures into the main - mines kill one tank lots and lots of scv kills
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ahh mines all over his main.. those tanks are paralysed
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drop into fantasy's main with vults. tanks suck vs mines =/
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notice drops vultures into fant's main. 2 tanks get heavy damage. Sme scvs dieing atm. Minefield still not cleared. Wraith duel going on, but fantasy has cloak.
All threats warded off for the moment, except for 2 vultures are the natural. Now those too.
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On February 27 2010 17:41 samachking wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 17:39 dukethegold wrote:On February 27 2010 17:34 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On February 27 2010 17:30 SuperArc wrote:On February 27 2010 17:29 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On February 27 2010 17:26 konadora wrote: i'm still wondering why hasn't free ever been to the finals with the skills he have =/ Probably because he's never really had the skills to get there... free always had the best micro out of all the dragons. He just had the bad luck of horrible brackets, hes easily more skilled than Lux, Kwanro or Calm. Horrible brackets... So in other words he just keeps losing to better players... Hence he does not have the skills to reach the finals... Which is why he never has... Still, Free deserved to have a better record in SL than his history indicates. He reached the semis twice in the dragons season. Thats not bad.
free has never ever qualified for an osl
until he does he will suck
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Woah Insane build from god knows who since I cant differentiate the colors. Double harass at nat and main with vults and vult drop
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notice mines the entrance of 3- he'll know if fantasy ever tries to expand there.
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Hmm, I'd say it's about even now or fantasy slightly ahead. Notice didn't do as much damage here and has a wraith harassing his min line.
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fantasy harassing notice's nat - notice moving 2 wraiths in response - over fantasy's vultures though
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Fanta with 3 wriaths, Notice with 2, Notice needs element of surprise with his cloak to do anything. Fantasy scores 2 kills with no casualties Fantasy kills all of Notice's wraiths without losing one of his own lol
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Easy pickings for fantasy.
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On February 27 2010 17:44 Aesop wrote: Hmm, I'd say it's about even now or fantasy slightly ahead. Notice didn't do as much damage here and has a wraith harassing his min line.
I think Fantasy is massively ahead. Notice had to cut SCVs and killed like 10 SCVs total while expanding MUCH later.
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fantasy using his economic advantage for pumping wraiths, hunts down some of Notice's.
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fantasy uses 2 scans and kills 2 cloaked wraiths and another killed
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fantasy adding a 4th factory, notice no longer building wraiths?
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notice adding 3rd and 4th factories fantasy moves his 2nd starport just for the fun of it
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wow, fantasy going to kill notice's starport with just wraith?
tank lines set up just outside notice's bridge
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fantasy with reverse drop haha
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2 wraiths get to notice's nat, get a few kills before tanks finish it off
fantasy's turn with vultures in dropship into the main
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rally point fail as a tank runs into massive fire. Norice predicts the drop and and deflects it without much loss
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good micro by notice stops the mine surround from killing his tank - but he still takes damage
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lol Notice walking into a lot of Fantasy's well-planned mines
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nice, Fantasy drops 2 tanks and a minefield at the third of Notice, so when he tried to take it he got shelled and drew about 5 mines at once
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FAIL ATTACK LOL. kills almost no tanks, Fantasy counters and rapes all of Notice's tanks
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stupid stupid move by notice - tries to move forward to fantasy's tank line without that much of a force advantage - loses a lot of tanks for very little and fantasy does some mine surrounds and kills more
notice gg's what a short game
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wow, fantasy was only waiting for that moment notice would attack to counter and take it. gg!
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MINES Fantasy vs Free is going to be so good
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notice tries to break the contain but ends up getting run over by fantasy
gg notice
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Finally, I get to watch a fantasy TvP next game. It feels like I haven't seen one since the Batoo OSL vs Bisu.
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13 CC is so versatile, surviving a 2 fact push like that. Could become very popular in TvT
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lol fantasy continuing the game
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On February 27 2010 17:50 jalstar wrote: 13 CC is so versatile, surviving a 2 fact push like that. Could become very popular in TvT
Tell that to Flash
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Now for some Fantasy's TvP. Should be fun like always.
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On February 27 2010 17:50 jalstar wrote: 13 CC is so versatile, surviving a 2 fact push like that. Could become very popular in TvT if it was a 2 fact tank/vulture push it may have been over
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On February 27 2010 17:50 jalstar wrote: 13 CC is so versatile, surviving a 2 fact push like that. Could become very popular in TvT He didn't really play a push but went for vulture harassment that fantasy was able to fend off pretty well. Also he wasn't surprised by early wraiths but had his own starport up early. So I'd say fantasy defended this pretty well.
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GG... fantasy played way better there, I'm proud
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On February 27 2010 17:40 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 17:30 SuperArc wrote:
He just had the bad luck of horrible brackets, hes easily more skilled than Lux, Kwanro or Calm. Not really. People grossly underestimate how good Lux was when he made his finals run, and Calm is a beast. Kwanro maybe, but even that's iffy.
It sounds more like that most people (STX fans) have never seen free's games.
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On February 27 2010 17:52 SuperArc wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 17:40 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On February 27 2010 17:30 SuperArc wrote:
He just had the bad luck of horrible brackets, hes easily more skilled than Lux, Kwanro or Calm. Not really. People grossly underestimate how good Lux was when he made his finals run, and Calm is a beast. Kwanro maybe, but even that's iffy. It sounds more like that most people (STX fans) have never seen free's games.
I've seen many of free's games. Sure, he displays moments of brilliance, but so does everyone. until he performs consistently against top players, he'll always be mediocre.
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On February 27 2010 17:52 SuperArc wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 17:40 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On February 27 2010 17:30 SuperArc wrote:
He just had the bad luck of horrible brackets, hes easily more skilled than Lux, Kwanro or Calm. Not really. People grossly underestimate how good Lux was when he made his finals run, and Calm is a beast. Kwanro maybe, but even that's iffy. It sounds more like that most people (STX fans) have never seen free's games. It's just hard to take you seriously when you say that he's "easily more skilled" than Calm is all.
You can point out the fact that I'm a Calm fan, but seriously, who really thinks that Free is better than Calm at this point? Free is just sort of... around. He's the best toss on Stars, but that's just about it, I'm afraid. I've always felt free was overvalued primarily based on that whole one game where he beat Jaedong in the late game. He's been irrelevant in leagues for a while. I'm not sure how anyone can think he's that skilled is all.
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Hmm, I want both players to win...who to be biased for? well, too tired to be so descriptive.
Fantasy shifting in his seat. The White Terran at 7 Pure the red toss at 1.
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sends out probe super early - proxy gate? sigh...
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On February 27 2010 17:57 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 17:52 SuperArc wrote:On February 27 2010 17:40 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On February 27 2010 17:30 SuperArc wrote:
He just had the bad luck of horrible brackets, hes easily more skilled than Lux, Kwanro or Calm. Not really. People grossly underestimate how good Lux was when he made his finals run, and Calm is a beast. Kwanro maybe, but even that's iffy. It sounds more like that most people (STX fans) have never seen free's games. It's just hard to take you seriously when you say that he's "easily more skilled" than Calm is all. You can point out the fact that I'm a Calm fan, but seriously, who really thinks that Free is better than Calm at this point? Free is just sort of... around. He's the best toss on Stars, but that's just about it, I'm afraid. all 4 of those players just feel like they're "around." I'd feel really hard pressed to say who's better than who.
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yeah, gas steal - but fantasy starts his gas so pure can't steal it I didn't notice the pylon in the main earlier
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On February 27 2010 18:00 Zona wrote: yeah, gas steal - but fantasy starts his gas so free can't steal it your jedi mind tricks won't work on me
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Pure microing that little bugger probe a lot - causing a lot of annoyance.
1 gate core
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Is anyone else sick of this map?
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On February 27 2010 18:01 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Is anyone else sick of this map? I like it!
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pure gets an scv to almost death - but a marine finishes and drives it away phew still that scv lost a lot of mining time
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On February 27 2010 18:00 Vivi57 wrote: all 4 of those players just feel like they're "around." I'd feel really hard pressed to say who's better than who.
but if anything, sea should win a league before free
Two MSL championships, one MSL silver, three OSL semifinals between them. Yep, just "around"
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free's pylon positioning looks like he expects a drop
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But terran always tries to siege that that low ground beside the nat every damn game.
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I really don't like Match Point.
Terran's lack of turrets against muta harass on this map disgusts me.
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Is that what they call strong FD? 2 tank, 8 marine, vulture rally?
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Free has taken his nat - Fantasy also now starting his nat
Free has enough goons to hold, I think - if he doesn't screw up his micro
2 tanks 1 vult 8 rines move out
2nd fact being added
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no, it's not FD anymore, hah.
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On February 27 2010 18:03 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 18:00 Vivi57 wrote: all 4 of those players just feel like they're "around." I'd feel really hard pressed to say who's better than who.
but if anything, sea should win a league before free Two MSL championships, one MSL silver, three OSL semifinals between them. Yep, just "around" Let's at least admit that Free is better than Luxury now. Even I can't defend Luxury lol
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With that ramp, 2 gate goon, and obs soon, I think free should be able to hold this. In theory at least.
oooh, going for robotics first.
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Free not doing a good job of picking off rines
and free's going to lose his observatory - he takes a huge mine hit
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LOL loses observer
AND MINE
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Oh gods, the goons totally fail.
free with his back against the wall now. fantasy will have expanded soon too.
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On February 27 2010 18:03 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 18:00 Vivi57 wrote: all 4 of those players just feel like they're "around." I'd feel really hard pressed to say who's better than who.
but if anything, sea should win a league before free Two MSL championships, one MSL silver, three OSL semifinals between them. Yep, just "around" lux's msl run was a long time ago, same with kwanro's.
But yeah, I guess your right, kwanro had a really awesome two msl runs so I'm way off in saying that he's just around
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most of fantasy'f forces cleared - but mines 1 tank 2 vults left
but free moving out with a shuttle - does it have a reaver in it?
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the shuttle passes a vulture - the reaver is dropped - it fires too slowly, dud scarab
2 kills when dropped in main
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Uh.. why did he make Reaver move... only delayed scarab deployment
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did free defuse the mine by dropping or eat the hit?
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free taking his mineral only now
fantasy just starting his
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both players preparing their 3rds in the usual spot
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free moving his shuttle to the main - he's having trouble finding a good place do drop it - bu he scores a good number of kills gosu repair saves the tank!
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free loses reaver to a tank D:
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Free officially has terrible reaver/shuttle micro.
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free leaves his reaver unattended long enough to eat THREE tank hits and die - weak his zealot worked well though
adding archives/stargate
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wow wtf is with that scarab range? Free too careless with that reaver
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durp de durp keeping shuttle away from reaver is always a good idea
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Awww free loses the reaver!!!
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free loses his reaver because his shuttle was too far away :/
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wow, even with an observer, free almost eats a mine hit
fantasy discovers free expanding to 5 with a vulture
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free taking his fourth now
fantasy trying to sneak some vultures into his natural
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free doing a decent job of preventing vulture harass so far
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Free taking a fourth as well, first arbiter is starting
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i want to see some nukes at free's 5th eventually :D
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however vultures are able to kill a warping cannon at 5
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rofl the observer is crappy today
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arbiter tech is done - fantasy starting vessel tech second stargate being added
fantasy building an extra cc at his 3rd - a small probing attack with free's goons at 9 - tanks deter them
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2 stargates... looks like he wants to pump out the arbiters
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nice job - free sends zealots out to attract mines back to his goons.
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Such terrible, terrible control by free.
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Ouch... mine takes out like 4 zealots
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Uhhh yeah, what the fuck was he doing with those zealots, other then losing four of them and draging a mine back to splash 6 dragoons...
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very interesting tank placement by Fantasy. Goons can fire down on them from high ground, but zlots arnt going to be able to reach them. zlots drag a mine all the way into free's ball of goons, only minor damage tho
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fantasy mining the path to 6 so free won't be able to take it without him noticing
free taking 12, but fantasy also has mines there - sends vultures to respond but a finished cannon there cleans that up
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man I wouldn't want to sell insurance to those zealots.
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I forgot how boring TvP is in the mid game.
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free giving up on observers it seems... just running his zealots through the mines
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wow, they're actually even in upgrades. I guess I'm just too used to watching flash
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vessel out for fanta, mines up the mid wanting to take fourth. free tries to push cant get anywhere and gives up
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free runs his goonzeal in, kills nothing but mines, loses all his zealots, and withdraws
but has fantasy taken 11 yet?
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On February 27 2010 18:15 MountainDewJunkie wrote: I forgot how boring TvP is in the mid game. i don't really mind, i'm sick of seeing Zergs being in almost every game I see =/ (excluding the dozens of mirrors every week)
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Hah, nice he managed to pick the one spot with no mines
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recall into the main - free hunts for the armories? fantasy sending scv's to attack/defend one armory killed
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Nice recall... snipes the armory!!!
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awesome recall that gets an armory
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one of the armories goes down, other one is safe Free at 6 base to fantasy's 3
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On February 27 2010 18:16 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 18:15 MountainDewJunkie wrote: I forgot how boring TvP is in the mid game. i don't really mind, i'm sick of seeing Zergs being in almost every game I see =/ (excluding the dozens of mirrors every week) But TvZ ruuuuuules! Well, it's my favorite, anyway
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the recall is cleared free has taken both 12 and 6 - fantasy needs to deal with that!
free recalls and kills a bunch of turrets at 11
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oh it got the attack upgrade armory, that's terrible, very late +2
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He's gonna need some psi storm or mass stasis to take on that army of fantasy's at some point.
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free takes out top left with another recall... so much zealot slaughter
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Free recalls the fourth before it lands or workers get transferred.... he kills a bunch of turrets but thats it
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oh no - fantasy sieges up just as zealots surround - but with good micro and vultures - he actually escapes with not that much damage
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I personally wouldn't complain if every televised match included a zerg :D
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Nice siege positioning by fantasy. Or maybe free just got a little greedy charging up that ramp
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free attacking 11 again, kills a vessel - backs off?
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free doing a good job being annoyign at the 4th
hopefully he's not throwing away too many units
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On February 27 2010 18:19 7 wrote: I personally wouldn't complain if every televised match included a zerg :D zvz. shudder. Nice emp gets both of the arbiters, Free still running 6 bases
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fantasy's army pretty sizable - fantasy needs to attack a base!
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Once again free loses all his zealots to mines/vultures...
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fantasy splits his army to go for 12 and 6, but he does have +2 attack now
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fantasy cripples 6 with just vultures
and destroys 12 with his main force
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fantasy atatcking 6 with 2 tanks and a lot of vults - clears all the cannons, kills a lot of probes but now hitting only the nexus
NICE _ simultaneously attacking and clearing out 12
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The sound of tanks sieging causes me great anxiety even today. Fantasy is on the move and touching the 12 oclock and the 6 oclock. 12oclock is fucked
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nex at 12 killed - free rebuilding cannons at 6
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Fantasy attacks 12 and 6 at the same time, does moderate damage to 6 and completely wipes out the 12
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6/12 attacking going really well for fantasy
AND HE GETS 12
I doubt free is surprised, I'm sure he didn't expect to actually keep both of those forever.
UGLY UGLY ATTACK
STASIS BLOCKS HIS UNITS AND HE ATTACKS UPHILL.
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OH free, that just wasn't smart at all.
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free reducing fantasy's tank count by a good amount - but he also reduced his own goon count by even more with that attack mid-upper part of the map
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Fantasy's tank line way to solid, no way for free to break it especially with a ramp
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Here comes the full might of the terran ground army XD
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free stasises the front tanks... providing a nice buffer between his goons and the back tanks... as a result, his goons melt like butter
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fantasy taking 12 right under the nose of those pylons and arbiter
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Time for a stream of desperation recalls.
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free recalls into fantasy's main - nothing there to respond!
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Miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine
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OMG MINE DAEBAK KILLS 7 RECALL'D GOONS
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and that's why you don't recall on top of terran
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Free directs a recall to take out the starport. RECALLS ON SOME MINES AND 9 GOONS EVAPORATE
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free gets the starport!
arbs just gained a ton of efficiencey
although it's wasted when he recalls into a mine field
but tons of depots falling!
and ARMORIES!
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Someone make a gif of that spider mine action A S A P
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LOL
that was one of the biggest recall fails ive seen in a while
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lol - fantasy attacking 6 with a small force - free recalls on top of it and eats a huge mine
free has killed a LOT of depots though, and the starport
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fantasy clears the recall in his main
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Savage recall in main and incredibly bad defensive recall. Ouch.
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free is losing control of this game. His army is pretty much non-existent compared to fantasy's
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hallucination on ARBITERS!
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free really needs ot deal with 12 now
ADN HALLUCINATED ARBS COMING!
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oooh free does hallucination!!!
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I can't help but wonder though if that couldn't hae been used for storms better
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preparing to recall on 12 - fantasy imediately responds by lifting/running - he expected it
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Recall in the main was a huge success, recall to defend 6 was almost epic failure, since he did defend it. Recall's the 12 with help of hallucination. CC is... not dead?
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konadora
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free recalls into fantasy's 11 - but a ton of tanks already there - recall immediately cleared
but 2 zealots just walk into fantasy's nat
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Recall gets cleaned up really easily. It didn't do near enough damage
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they kill the two tanks there
more arbiter hallucination
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Woah beastly play for the Toss... holy shit was that Bisu from 6 months ago playing?
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free giving a clinic on how to recall into mine fields
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another recall into the main - the entire area is empty from earlier though
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Another recall into the main... this time it could be a little better
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Fantasy is on the back foot now, completely forced on defensive.
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Geez free is all over with his hallucination recalls.
Cool game.
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That last recall was definitely a net loss.
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Free is pushing his luck with those recalls... Not liking his chances overall.
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fantasy able to clear the recall
man unfair - arbiters can dodge the lousy slow emp
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God, fantasy snuffs out the recall again. He's lost so little in those so far
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free only mining at one base - is fantasy mining at all?
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free almost completely mined out. He's thrown away his army so much
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and free throws away what's probably his last army....
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free landing very nice stasis - destroys the non-stasis'd part of fantasy's core army but loses all his units too?
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Wow, those zealots at the natural really could've helped.
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Free forgot 1/2 of his army in that attack, freezes 3/4 of Fantasy's army but doesnt have the units to kill them.
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Beautiful stasis... but free leaves a ton of zealots at home and he can't clean it all up
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free rushes to the stasis'd units with his fresh army of mostly zealots - they all die, taking a few tanks with them
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Doom zoom on free... hopefully he has a stockpile of minerals...
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ugh, free needed storms, not mass hallucinations
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fantasy distance mining from 12
free conveniently sending his army in a line towards fantasy where it can be easily dismantled
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All fantasy needs to do is secure 12 oclock and it's over. Just the same if he jus keeps free from taking it in general.
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this map is imba, protoss cant make carriers
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konadora
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ok free's running very low on minerals, so many archons
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free hurting for minerals now.
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and losing 2 goons to mines doesn't help much either.
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lol, free's expecting the mines and still loses 2 goons to them
fantasy sieging free's last mining base
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free running low on minerals obviously... he's making a on of archons now, but an EMP will basically destroy them
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both players are running off 1 base, Fantasy wants to expand to 12 and kill the 6 at the same time. hallucination zlots clear mines but gols snipe the arbs before they can stasis. in a low-econ game Free loses 2 more goons to mines, 2 goons he really cant afford
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On February 27 2010 18:30 Heimatloser wrote: this map is imba, protoss cant make carriers What about Pure?
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free massing archons - storms a bunch of mines
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wow, storms so terrible, storms a vulture too
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wtf free... storming mines? His last expansion is under siege and there's absolutley nothing he can do to break it
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Lack of storms makes me so sad.
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konadora
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fantasy starts 12 running while destroying 6
over for free
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fantasy now has a cc at 12, no longer has to distance mine
zealot/templar attack it - the tanks there are no defense
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fantasy losing a lot of scv's mostly to archons at 12 - tanks come back and clear out the archons
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Frees army and his mining base are gone. hes about to GG massing templar in the meantime
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God dam, this is why I love TvP.
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free adjusting his seat... he's given up but he wants to drag this out
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free loses his last mining nex free adjusts his position on his seat - he plans to play it out?
so many templar
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konadora
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I don't know why Free is so dejected... He's not eliminated, he's still a heavy favorite vs Notice or Saint...
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free making nothing but ht now... making the most of those minerals
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On February 27 2010 18:32 Orbifold wrote: God dam, this is why I love TvP.
imba maps? :p
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lol he just wanted to cast a massive storm on one spot and gg's
fantasy advances easily
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lol free casts 12 storms on the same spot after lining up his templars, then GG's. coulda at least made some stuff blow up for making us wait
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Would've needed those templars earlier.
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oov just sitting there "what took you so long"
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nice gg... lotsa pretty storms
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How were the first two games?
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konadora
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On February 27 2010 18:35 Devolved wrote: How were the first two games?
first was a one-sided rape, 2nd was okay
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I don't know about the first game, but game 2 and 3 were pretty one sided.
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I thought set 2 was pretty decisive as well.
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wut - HyunJoon spotting for someone? and contorting to different shapes next ep?
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On February 27 2010 18:39 MountainDewJunkie wrote: I thought set 2 was pretty decisive as well.
but it was soooooo boring >.<
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Time for the match of the losers. Mediocrity FTW!
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At least it's a ZvT those are always interesting
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On February 27 2010 18:40 7 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 18:39 MountainDewJunkie wrote: I thought set 2 was pretty decisive as well. but it was soooooo boring >.< I meant decisive as in one-sided?
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Saint - yellow zerg bottom left, Notice purple terran top right.
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hidden hatch first? or scouting for proxies? I guess the latter
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12hatch, the scv comes in to defile the zerg lands.
notice taking his nat as well
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notice scouts the 12hatch, puts down a CC (probably 14)
saint went gas before pool....hrm :/
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konadora
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lair in progress, man I'm too asleep to pay attention to details now
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oh, is notice planning on going mech?
spire in progress
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spire going up
notice getting an armory now
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konadora
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saint expanding to 6
getting a sunken to prevent vultures probably
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mutalisks are out - notice doesn't have many turrets, and only 4 goliaths
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So guys....come on....is SC2 any good?
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I find that mediocre mech usually trumps mediocre zergs.
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konadora
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oooh only goliath +1 timing push?
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mutaling attack forcing notice to constantly retreat his goliaths
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mutahydra attack on the goliaths really reduced the goliath numbers it looks like a zvp, really
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saint sacrificing his mutas to get his hydras into notice's natural
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no siege mode....... why no siege?
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Quick and decisive tech switch b zerg
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konadora
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raped by hydras hahahahaha
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hydra streaming into notice's nat - trying to snipe the tank - they do now just pick off scv's
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the hydras cleared - but tons of scv's lost another small group of hydra attack
saint has also taken 9, his 4th base
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so now its 2 base vs 4, and terran has shit saturation and no army. zerg taking 5th base and 4th gas.
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konadora
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saint getting 4th gas base
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saint taking 11 I don't particularly care about these players or the outcome - I'm out, cya
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Saint is the Canata of Zerg
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4 vultures kill a grand total of 2 drones. gj
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On February 27 2010 18:59 Devolved wrote: Saint is the Canata of Zerg unless 5 queens is a misclick, i demand you retract that statement. damn, that drop did so much damage he might not get to use the queens, just 1a2a3a
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konadora
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On February 27 2010 18:59 Devolved wrote: Saint is the Canata of Zerg I don't see why
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konadora
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konadora
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lol broodlings MELTED that MASSIVE tank army
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haha that was a tight play by saint
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hahaha... So owned. Brooodlings !!!
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SICK ZvMech from Saint!!!
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I retract my previous statement.
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That was pimp. Broodlings halted that tank push.
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Hmm, no wonder STX never uses Notice
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I'm a Saint fan from now on.
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On February 27 2010 19:05 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Hmm, no wonder STX never uses Notice
against Saint most terrans would have problems.
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Lol, just got back from the shop to see QUEENS! ZOMG!
Awesome.
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On February 27 2010 19:06 SuperArc wrote:against Saint most terrans would have problems. Only about 44% of the time :/
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On February 27 2010 19:05 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Hmm, no wonder STX never uses Notice
He had the 2nd most wins on STX in last season's WL..
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Okay, free. Just make some reavers and get into the Ro32.
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On February 27 2010 19:09 Rostam wrote:He had the 2nd most wins on STX in last season's WL.. And last year Luxury was the MSL champion. Things change.
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On February 27 2010 19:08 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 19:06 SuperArc wrote:On February 27 2010 19:05 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Hmm, no wonder STX never uses Notice against Saint most terrans would have problems. Only about 44% of the time :/
thats like saying Calm is horrible ZvT because he has only 50% win rate.
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On February 27 2010 19:12 SuperArc wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 19:08 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On February 27 2010 19:06 SuperArc wrote:On February 27 2010 19:05 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Hmm, no wonder STX never uses Notice against Saint most terrans would have problems. Only about 44% of the time :/ thats like saying Calm is horrible ZvT because he has only 50% win rate. Calm has horrible ZvT...
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free spawning @ bottom right saint spawning @ top left
saint with an overpool free fast expanding
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On February 27 2010 19:06 SuperArc wrote:against Saint most terrans would have problems. you are basing this off of what? one game against a below-average opponent? I'd say most decent terrans would crush saint on a regular basis
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saint off three bases corsair out and scouting
a few gates as well as a templar archives going up for free
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On February 27 2010 19:15 Chen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 19:06 SuperArc wrote:On February 27 2010 19:05 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Hmm, no wonder STX never uses Notice against Saint most terrans would have problems. you are basing this off of what? one game against a below-average opponent? I'd say most decent terrans would crush saint on a regular basis
I've seen most of Saint's ZvTs
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konadora
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wtf storm not researched yet?
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konadora
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FINALLY it's researched!!
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saint sniping all free's cannons with his hydras
hydras getting through the main, but 2 storms manage to clean it up
zealot harass @ saint's third
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Saint is getting greedy. Just double expand and mass up, don't throw the game away.
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lol @ live report
1. Saint is getting greedy. Just double expand and mass up, don't throw the game away. 2. ... 3. Free won.
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On February 27 2010 19:57 nayumi wrote: lol @ live report
1. Saint is getting greedy. Just double expand and mass up, don't throw the game away. 2. ... 3. Free won.
teamliquid was down so no one could live report
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free did it?  nice :D
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Happy for Fantasy.
Like ot or hate it, he is one of the most entertaining terran around.
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YES FREE! and to a lesser extent Fantasy. This MSL won't be a fail after all!
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On February 27 2010 23:40 Xiphos wrote: YES FREE! and to a lesser extent Fantasy. This MSL won't be a fail after all!
Thats what they always said. We havent had an epic MSL finals since god knows when
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Good to see favourites advancing for once. GJ Free and Fantasy. Hope this MSL will turn out to be epic
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thank god free and fantasy advanced.
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On February 28 2010 00:03 samachking wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 23:40 Xiphos wrote: YES FREE! and to a lesser extent Fantasy. This MSL won't be a fail after all! Thats what they always said. We havent had an epic MSL finals since god knows when So what kind of final do you consider Flash vs. Jaedong?
It didn't turn out like it should have, but games 1 to 2.9 were great.
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Fantasy is now 3rd in ELO. Bisu and Stork better step up before TaekBang is over.
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On February 28 2010 03:06 Aesop wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2010 00:03 samachking wrote:On February 27 2010 23:40 Xiphos wrote: YES FREE! and to a lesser extent Fantasy. This MSL won't be a fail after all! Thats what they always said. We havent had an epic MSL finals since god knows when So what kind of final do you consider Flash vs. Jaedong? It didn't turn out like it should have, but games 1 to 2.9 were great. Two seasons ago, the Ro16 and Ro32 looked very promising. Then we got Calm v. Kwanro and Jaedong v. Yarnc.
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