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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-07 07:06:21
February 07 2010 07:05 GMT
#681
Ahh yes, KT. 3 games ahead with one more game to play.

Gonna have to teach MBC why we should be up top, soon. 8)

Another note: Ace at -50 =(

WL is not very good for them.
Remember Violet.
PiePie
Profile Joined February 2010
United States248 Posts
February 07 2010 07:05 GMT
#682
KT fighting!
RFG- Raging Flash Fangirl
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
February 07 2010 07:08 GMT
#683
Perfectman never really loses any games, he just outplays himself.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
cabarkapa
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1011 Posts
February 07 2010 07:08 GMT
#684
On February 07 2010 16:05 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Ahh yes, KT. 3 games ahead with one more game to play.

Gonna have to teach MBC why we should be up top, soon. 8)

Another note: Ace at -50 =(

WL is not very good for them.

Don't they have 8 more games to play?
Jaehoon - Master strategist
NSANE.hydra
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States644 Posts
February 07 2010 07:10 GMT
#685
On February 07 2010 16:00 PiePie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2010 15:56 NSANE.hydra wrote:
On February 07 2010 15:48 moopie wrote:
On February 07 2010 15:36 Holgerius wrote:
On February 07 2010 15:34 Itachii wrote:
On February 07 2010 15:33 Holgerius wrote:
Hyvaa outplayed JD, holy fuck. :O

outplay my ass, jd passed his lings and could easily enter main with all of them, hyvva would be forced to move back.but instead jd decidecs to chase his lings -_-

Decision making is a part of playing SC you know?


Yes, and hyvaa did win, but he didn't "outplay" jd. jd outplayed himself. :/


This. Jaedong's bad decision killed him, not any brilliant play on hyvaa's part.


JD can't get outplayed by others, he always outplays himself. When people make bad choices it's not called outplayed /sarcasm. Look what im trying to say is even if Hyvaa didn't do anything stellar, he still made better choices than JD as simple as it is, thus outplayed (not stellar outplayed but outplayed none the less)


We just have different definitions of outplayed. Yes, hyvaa deserved the win because he played more solidly than JD, but I don't consider it outplaying unless he was actively outsmarting JD. It's just a matter of opinion on what constitutes "outplaying". There's really no point in arguing anymore, I just would rather this not be called "fanboyism", because I would use the same standard with any other player...
"fuck mech...I could 4pool and as long as he's simply PLANNING on going mech, I'll lose"
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-07 07:16:17
February 07 2010 07:11 GMT
#686
On February 07 2010 16:08 Holgerius wrote:
Perfectman never really loses any games, he just outplays himself.


that's the perfect rebuff to fanboys now
"[my guy] never really loses any games, he just outplays himself." [image loading]
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PiePie
Profile Joined February 2010
United States248 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-07 07:15:45
February 07 2010 07:13 GMT
#687
That banner does JD more justice now.
Being a Flash Fangirl, I even think its sad how many KT fans flock to OZ games just to see JD lose and post how badly he fails. It's so sad.. yet It feels so good wahahaha. xD oh well its sad fun for us -_-
RFG- Raging Flash Fangirl
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
February 07 2010 07:29 GMT
#688
I don't know whether to cheer for hyvaa or not. This guy is so consistently inconsistent that I just don't know to expect...
[TLMS] REBOOT
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-07 07:33:28
February 07 2010 07:32 GMT
#689
^ that's not true at all

I don't think KT fans want to see jaedong lose, Oz is far from a threat to KT in PL. SL is SL. Flash also lost tonight, but KT's just the better team.
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8148 Posts
February 07 2010 07:33 GMT
#690
On February 07 2010 16:29 OpticalShot wrote:
I don't know whether to cheer for hyvaa or not. This guy is so consistently inconsistent that I just don't know to expect...



hyvaa can do some really cool/sick plays a lot, but yea he's just so bad a lot of the time. Remember how about a year ago it looked like for a little bit that he was going to be THE next big Zerg over zero/effort/calm? why the fuck cant this guy do good in normal matches lol
Free Palestine
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
February 07 2010 07:50 GMT
#691
LOL. Cannot believe that JD got sniped by Hyvaa after taking out Really. Oz fans must've been thinking 3-kill with both of Estro's Terrans out of the way.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
February 07 2010 07:55 GMT
#692
On February 07 2010 16:08 cabarkapa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2010 16:05 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Ahh yes, KT. 3 games ahead with one more game to play.

Gonna have to teach MBC why we should be up top, soon. 8)

Another note: Ace at -50 =(

WL is not very good for them.

Don't they have 8 more games to play?


I meant they have 1 more game to play to have played the same number as MBC.

Then again MBC is playing their next match before KT so it still won't be accurate. Safe to say KT is just doing very well this PL season.
Remember Violet.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
February 07 2010 07:56 GMT
#693
lol
cabarkapa
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1011 Posts
February 07 2010 07:57 GMT
#694
On February 07 2010 16:55 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2010 16:08 cabarkapa wrote:
On February 07 2010 16:05 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Ahh yes, KT. 3 games ahead with one more game to play.

Gonna have to teach MBC why we should be up top, soon. 8)

Another note: Ace at -50 =(

WL is not very good for them.

Don't they have 8 more games to play?


I meant they have 1 more game to play to have played the same number as MBC.

Then again MBC is playing their next match before KT so it still won't be accurate. Safe to say KT is just doing very well this PL season.

Ah okay, yep KT is doing great, at this point just depends if they can keep it up in the playoffs
Jaehoon - Master strategist
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-07 08:59:20
February 07 2010 07:59 GMT
#695
On February 07 2010 16:10 NSANE.hydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2010 16:00 PiePie wrote:
On February 07 2010 15:56 NSANE.hydra wrote:
On February 07 2010 15:48 moopie wrote:
On February 07 2010 15:36 Holgerius wrote:
On February 07 2010 15:34 Itachii wrote:
On February 07 2010 15:33 Holgerius wrote:
Hyvaa outplayed JD, holy fuck. :O

outplay my ass, jd passed his lings and could easily enter main with all of them, hyvva would be forced to move back.but instead jd decidecs to chase his lings -_-

Decision making is a part of playing SC you know?


Yes, and hyvaa did win, but he didn't "outplay" jd. jd outplayed himself. :/


This. Jaedong's bad decision killed him, not any brilliant play on hyvaa's part.


JD can't get outplayed by others, he always outplays himself. When people make bad choices it's not called outplayed /sarcasm. Look what im trying to say is even if Hyvaa didn't do anything stellar, he still made better choices than JD as simple as it is, thus outplayed (not stellar outplayed but outplayed none the less)


We just have different definitions of outplayed. Yes, hyvaa deserved the win because he played more solidly than JD, but I don't consider it outplaying unless he was actively outsmarting JD. It's just a matter of opinion on what constitutes "outplaying". There's really no point in arguing anymore, I just would rather this not be called "fanboyism", because I would use the same standard with any other player...


Thats how i see it too. Hyvaa's play was nothing special, jd made a huge mistake (that is generally unlike his regular zvz) that cost him the game. hyvaa won, fair and square, but i wouldn't say he was outplayed. now an example would be the msl finals match 1 and 2, where jd and flash outsmarted each other's builds.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
February 07 2010 08:02 GMT
#696
WTF Jaedong just fucking rapes ZvT and ZvP but is shaky ZvZ? What the hell.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
PiePie
Profile Joined February 2010
United States248 Posts
February 07 2010 08:11 GMT
#697
Guemchi, Jaehoon and FBH distrubted the skill level of the universe, SC makes no sense anymore, the massive number of upsets is to be blamed on those three.
RFG- Raging Flash Fangirl
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8148 Posts
February 07 2010 08:18 GMT
#698
i though I'd never see the day where ZvZ is JD's worst matchup.
Free Palestine
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6105 Posts
February 07 2010 08:32 GMT
#699
ZvZ is the worst matchup ever.

99% luck..
#1 Terran hater
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-07 08:39:43
February 07 2010 08:39 GMT
#700
On February 07 2010 17:32 Highways wrote:
ZvZ is the worst matchup ever.

99% luck..

I like that when jaedong wins its "skill, skill, he revolutionalized ZvZ", but when he loses, its suddenly just coinflip...
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