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pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
February 03 2010 11:07 GMT
#261
ohh terrans rule the world now.
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
iNviSible.yunO
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Germany211 Posts
February 03 2010 11:44 GMT
#262
there is no vod up yet, is there?
o.O''
sherriluv
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden38 Posts
February 03 2010 12:50 GMT
#263
oh yeah, leta all kill <3
"increase success by lowering expectations"
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 03 2010 13:05 GMT
#264
On February 03 2010 18:29 nebffa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2010 16:13 Shikyo wrote:
On February 03 2010 14:57 OpticalShot wrote:
GG.

LETA ALL-KILL!
Whats with Terrans these days, FBH 3-kills 2 games in a row then all-kills from first fantasy then Leta!

Well you see, the map pools all favor Terran. Really would like to see some winner's league statistic's about MU winrates and mirror MU percentages... I imagine T is steamrolling everything.


are you sure its not bias? take examples from other proleague matches

+ Show Spoiler +
like last night's hwaseung vs woongjin where a zerg won every set


if terrans get way more all kills by the end of WL then it might be more apt to conclude something then

Well dunno, look at the maps
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
February 03 2010 13:07 GMT
#265
leta is awesome, too bad he don't peform that well in individual leagues
BW is back
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
February 03 2010 13:12 GMT
#266
NO WAY :D:D:D:D:D
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
PangO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Chile1870 Posts
February 03 2010 13:22 GMT
#267
i knew it !
All Kill Leta !!
In Economics, the majority is always wrong. aka: MattRz
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
February 03 2010 13:23 GMT
#268
goddam leta
Forever Young
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
February 03 2010 14:08 GMT
#269
On February 03 2010 22:05 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2010 18:29 nebffa wrote:
On February 03 2010 16:13 Shikyo wrote:
On February 03 2010 14:57 OpticalShot wrote:
GG.

LETA ALL-KILL!
Whats with Terrans these days, FBH 3-kills 2 games in a row then all-kills from first fantasy then Leta!

Well you see, the map pools all favor Terran. Really would like to see some winner's league statistic's about MU winrates and mirror MU percentages... I imagine T is steamrolling everything.


are you sure its not bias? take examples from other proleague matches

+ Show Spoiler +
like last night's hwaseung vs woongjin where a zerg won every set


if terrans get way more all kills by the end of WL then it might be more apt to conclude something then

Well dunno, look at the maps


Here you go:

TvZ 22-6
ZvP 10-4
PvT 15-9

TvT 20 games
ZvZ 14 games
PvP 9 games

As you can see, it's not that the maps massively favor Terran so much as they massively promote the "classical" game balance to an INSANE degree. And since most of the field is Terran and Zerg players, Terran is dominating.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
February 03 2010 14:32 GMT
#270
ooh leta
sick
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
February 03 2010 14:56 GMT
#271
LETAAAAAA "El rey de Proleague"
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
February 03 2010 15:48 GMT
#272
why are terrans so good at all killing i dont even get it
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
February 03 2010 16:01 GMT
#273
On February 04 2010 00:48 dekuschrub wrote:
why are terrans so good at all killing i dont even get it

they have these imbalanced units that do 70 splash damage with super long range
( ・´ー・`)
KnightOfNi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1508 Posts
February 03 2010 16:40 GMT
#274
LETAAAAA WOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTT
RIP eSTRO :(
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-03 17:06:44
February 03 2010 17:06 GMT
#275
On February 03 2010 23:08 Mortality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2010 22:05 Shikyo wrote:
On February 03 2010 18:29 nebffa wrote:
On February 03 2010 16:13 Shikyo wrote:
On February 03 2010 14:57 OpticalShot wrote:
GG.

LETA ALL-KILL!
Whats with Terrans these days, FBH 3-kills 2 games in a row then all-kills from first fantasy then Leta!

Well you see, the map pools all favor Terran. Really would like to see some winner's league statistic's about MU winrates and mirror MU percentages... I imagine T is steamrolling everything.


are you sure its not bias? take examples from other proleague matches

+ Show Spoiler +
like last night's hwaseung vs woongjin where a zerg won every set


if terrans get way more all kills by the end of WL then it might be more apt to conclude something then

Well dunno, look at the maps


Here you go:

TvZ 22-6
ZvP 10-4
PvT 15-9

TvT 20 games
ZvZ 14 games
PvP 9 games

As you can see, it's not that the maps massively favor Terran so much as they massively promote the "classical" game balance to an INSANE degree. And since most of the field is Terran and Zerg players, Terran is dominating.

Oh I didn't even see the map stats for all of them, but just looking at them they all seem quite terrible for Zerg v T. That really is quite extreme Z>P>T>Z, I didn't realize it was that bad O_o They need to do something about these maps asap, this is dumb.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-03 17:21:21
February 03 2010 17:20 GMT
#276
On February 03 2010 18:43 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2010 15:34 dukethegold wrote:
Didn't know that Leta still had it in him.

I started following the pro-scene right when Leta started slumping, Fantasy rising and Flash struggling.

Hence I am a Fantasy fan, semi-Flash fan and think nothing of Leta, and thought that he was overpriced and would probably make a good anti.

Good thing that there were better anti choices available.

Edit: I just took a look at Leta's record. Wow...I must say...but...wtf is with his TvP lol.



i became a Leta fan after he raped Guemchi @ tau cross even when he got behind at the beginning coz of reavers, he came back with unrelenting harass


Don't you mean Stork? The game with the sick harass and drops everywhere?

edit: A TLPD search reveals there was a game between Leta and Guemchi on Tau, so nevermind :p The Stork game was amazing though; one of, if not his first ever televised game. Check it out if you haven't
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Kazius
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Israel1456 Posts
February 03 2010 17:22 GMT
#277
On February 03 2010 23:08 Mortality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2010 22:05 Shikyo wrote:
On February 03 2010 18:29 nebffa wrote:
On February 03 2010 16:13 Shikyo wrote:
On February 03 2010 14:57 OpticalShot wrote:
GG.

LETA ALL-KILL!
Whats with Terrans these days, FBH 3-kills 2 games in a row then all-kills from first fantasy then Leta!

Well you see, the map pools all favor Terran. Really would like to see some winner's league statistic's about MU winrates and mirror MU percentages... I imagine T is steamrolling everything.


are you sure its not bias? take examples from other proleague matches

+ Show Spoiler +
like last night's hwaseung vs woongjin where a zerg won every set


if terrans get way more all kills by the end of WL then it might be more apt to conclude something then

Well dunno, look at the maps


Here you go:

TvZ 22-6
ZvP 10-4
PvT 15-9

TvT 20 games
ZvZ 14 games
PvP 9 games

As you can see, it's not that the maps massively favor Terran so much as they massively promote the "classical" game balance to an INSANE degree. And since most of the field is Terran and Zerg players, Terran is dominating.

Let me rephrase those statistics:
TvZ ratio: 5 to 1.6
ZvP ratio: 5 to 2
PvT ratio: 5 to 3
TvOther: 3 wins to 2 losses
ZvOther: 3 wins to 4 losses
PvOther: 3 wins to 3 losses

So, Terrans are clearly in the best shape (by far), and Zerg are the worst because Terrans are stomping them without mercy. This follows what everyone said during the map's first showings: "zOMG, Terrans are gonna rape everything". Road Runner and Judgement Day were mentioned a lot. It should be noted that very few Protoss get sent on about half of the maps (unless we're talking about SKT or Khan), and the first player is usually a Terran.
Friendship is like peeing yourself. Anyone can see it, but only you get that warm feeling.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 03 2010 18:14 GMT
#278
Also about Hwaseung and Woongjin, their terran lineups aren't exactly amazing.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
February 03 2010 18:53 GMT
#279
Leta's 1 marine vs 2 lurkers micro was cool to watch
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
February 03 2010 19:51 GMT
#280
Wow Leta vs Roro was amazing to watch. I thought Leta was done after the muta harass absolutely destroyed his scv saturation despite roro's delayed third, since Roro was able to take his third and fourth at the same time. It was just like "it can't be...is it.... OMG" when Leta's took the back route out of his natural and went straight to Roro's third. And then the nonstop expansion denying! Amazing game. Definitely should watch it.
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