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[MSL] Nate MSL Grand Finals - Flash vs Jaedong - Page 9

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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
January 22 2010 09:55 GMT
#161
On January 22 2010 17:31 johanes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 17:19 Teogamer wrote:
Jaedong deserves this way more than yertle the turtle

Calling flash trurtle shows your lack of insight into professional SC. He has been the most agressive TvZ player lately. Also he deserves it 1683684698098454 times more than jaedong. And luckily, this game isnt about deserving, but about skill and you cant win against GOD himself incarnated into Flash.


Why does Flash deserve the MSL more than Jaedong?

Jaedong was as dominating as Flash in the MSL.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9021 Posts
January 22 2010 10:02 GMT
#162
The other Lee will win.
cabarkapa
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1011 Posts
January 22 2010 10:08 GMT
#163
On January 22 2010 18:55 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 17:31 johanes wrote:
On January 22 2010 17:19 Teogamer wrote:
Jaedong deserves this way more than yertle the turtle

Calling flash trurtle shows your lack of insight into professional SC. He has been the most agressive TvZ player lately. Also he deserves it 1683684698098454 times more than jaedong. And luckily, this game isnt about deserving, but about skill and you cant win against GOD himself incarnated into Flash.


Why does Flash deserve the MSL more than Jaedong?

Jaedong was as dominating as Flash in the MSL.

neither deserves it more because it's all based on opinion
Jaehoon - Master strategist
whathappened
Profile Joined December 2009
United States213 Posts
January 22 2010 10:08 GMT
#164
On January 22 2010 19:02 Garnet wrote:
The other Lee will win.

?!
+ Show Spoiler [LEE YOUNG HO] +
(P)LuCifer


Just kidding, I just hope the best player wins.. no rigging <insert conspiracy theory to back this up>, no cheese imbalance, etc.
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 10:13:37
January 22 2010 10:11 GMT
#165
Am I the only one that thinks the banner is improper?

Why offend some people by bringing an offensive saying by a highly respect people that would never say such things. It is improper, offensive and uneccecary. They have nothing to do with this topic. We are here to enjoy the game, not to bring in quotes that does offend people.
Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
January 22 2010 10:13 GMT
#166
Poor Jaedong, he has no chances...
Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
January 22 2010 10:13 GMT
#167
it MUST BE epic
Power is your Intelligence
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
January 22 2010 10:16 GMT
#168
On January 22 2010 19:11 ThePhan2m wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks the banner is improper?

Why offend some people by bringing an offensive saying by a highly respect people that would never say such things. It is improper, offensive and uneccecary. They have nothing to do with this topic. We are here to enjoy the game, not to bring in quotes that does offend people.

God also says he hates you
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
whathappened
Profile Joined December 2009
United States213 Posts
January 22 2010 10:16 GMT
#169
On January 22 2010 19:13 Fx_ wrote:
it MUST BE epic

Even if the games aren't flashy (lol), the level of mind-games, high-end meta-game adventures and exploits will be substantial, almost like we can slice the palpable atmosphere as these two players clash. Too bad we won't get the effect of the roaring ten-thousand strong crowd during this event.

..I hope.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 10:17:53
January 22 2010 10:17 GMT
#170
On January 22 2010 19:11 ThePhan2m wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks the banner is improper?

Why offend some people by bringing an offensive saying by a highly respect people that would never say such things. It is improper, offensive and uneccecary. They have nothing to do with this topic. We are here to enjoy the game, not to bring in quotes that does offend people.

If you are offended please write a complaint to this address:

Rahm Emmanuel
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Washington, DC 20500
ModeratorGood content always wins.
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
January 22 2010 10:20 GMT
#171
I'm rooting for Flash. Jaedong can live going one season without a starleague while Flash deserves the double-title for the shit he's gone through and his recent dominance. It would even the score between them as well which would make future matches even more epic.

I feel it's really hard to predict a winner though. It seems like either Flash will roll over Jaedong 3:0, or it's going to be a complete nailbiter. I'm getting nervous already =/
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
January 22 2010 10:29 GMT
#172
Jaedong LWWW. Blah blah the maps blah blah blah flaSh is so brutal blah blah blah bunker rush, it's Jaedong, this is his MSL
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
January 22 2010 10:32 GMT
#173
On January 22 2010 15:58 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 15:40 Djabanete wrote:
On January 22 2010 13:20 CharlieMurphy wrote:
lol flash Thumb down the only map that was close to 50%

even though flash has the edge in every category including all the map imbalance ( at least how it looks on this small sample size), I think Jaedong is clearly the more skilled player.


Remember that since Flash has played several games on most of these maps (Fighting Spirit is 13-10 with Flash being 6-1, for example --- do the math), the numbers aren't trustworthy. If half of the sample games are from Flash, then of course the percentages will favor Terran. Although I do believe the progamers who seem to agree that the maps favor terran, I think that taking the numbers at face value is wrong.

Like attackzerg says, it's not like Flash has been playing noobs on these maps.

I wasn't calling Zero, Calm and Kwanro noobs, but it's beyond dispute that Flash is a few notches above them right now. It's fair to say that if Flash plays half of the sample games, the percentages will necessarily come out T>Z even if the maps are T=Z and he's playing against A-class zergs.

That said, I believe the pros, who say the maps are T>Z --- I'm just saying that inferring it from the current stats with any kind of certainty is fallacious. Kind of a silly little point to make.

Anyway, this whole discussion is just going to get lost in the shuffle, so here's to 5 good games!
May the BeSt man win.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6172 Posts
January 22 2010 10:52 GMT
#174
we are almost at 9 page and it's only tomorrow xD

Go Flash !! Rape this Zerg
n_n
pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 10:55:39
January 22 2010 10:54 GMT
#175
On January 22 2010 19:11 ThePhan2m wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks the banner is improper?

Why offend some people by bringing an offensive saying by a highly respect people that would never say such things. It is improper, offensive and uneccecary. They have nothing to do with this topic. We are here to enjoy the game, not to bring in quotes that does offend people.


Yes, the banner disrespects NELSON MANDELA sooo much
StarCraft-ESP.com Admin - Spanish StarCraft Community
khersai
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland366 Posts
January 22 2010 10:55 GMT
#176
oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy
will the Legendary Protoss please stand up, please stand up
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
January 22 2010 11:00 GMT
#177
not enough hype!
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
January 22 2010 11:02 GMT
#178
RIGHT NOW I AM STREAMING FLASH VS JAEDONG GAMES THAT ARE NOT ON YOUTUBE

tv.zeroboy.net/gomrebroadcast
ModeratorGood content always wins.
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
January 22 2010 11:02 GMT
#179
gooooooo jaedong
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
January 22 2010 11:37 GMT
#180
This is gona be epic (39103)
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
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