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[OSL] EVER 2009 OSL Grand Final - Flash vs Movie - Page 95

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Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2433 Posts
January 17 2010 09:31 GMT
#1881
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NaDa/Flash/Thorzain Fan
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Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Vietnam719 Posts
January 17 2010 09:31 GMT
#1882
Flash game plan was pretty clear that game, he slowly took control over the middle and spent most of his time defending arbiter. He didnt go expanding at 5 right after he destroyed movie's base there Once he got the ground and Movie couldnt do almost anything with arbiters. His management was really great though that made the difference.
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cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
January 17 2010 09:31 GMT
#1883
Idra must be seething about seeing his teammate lose... "He won without doing a single thing."
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
January 17 2010 09:31 GMT
#1884
On January 17 2010 18:28 Aurioch wrote:
All these comments about Flash being way ahead of skills is so retarded. What part of skill is there when it comes to turtling all game long...........than push out when ur opponent is depleted, that's just sitting on ur ass until you're sure you win the game, that's not skill


Try it; I hope to see you reach Olympic on ICCup, good sir!
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Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66170 Posts
January 17 2010 09:31 GMT
#1885
I don't get why the fuck are there so many people whining about Flash's playing style.

You try to execute his playstyle like him.
POGGERS
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
January 17 2010 09:31 GMT
#1886
lol how did movie create less units than flash

and also was that recall a good idea? is it generally a good strat? was it just really good defense by flash? that recall looked so useless
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 17 2010 09:31 GMT
#1887
On January 17 2010 18:28 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2010 18:26 Aurioch wrote:
Why can't Flash comes up with some creative plays to entertain his fans, god his style is so damn boring

Sir, to turtle like this is an art. You have to have a very good game sense to pull this off. And as someone just said earlier, play late game marco TvP is not that easy.
Seeing the huge Protoss army charging in to Terran defense just to evaporate and get build to 200/200 seconds later is not BORING at all

True T-player.

It really is boring.
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-17 09:31:43
January 17 2010 09:31 GMT
#1888
On January 17 2010 18:29 raga4ka wrote:
Don't know , but maybe carriers with a ground army seems to be a bettter choise on HBR ?


thats what the commentators kept saying all the time
meaning it was at least better vs what flash did
beep boop
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
January 17 2010 09:31 GMT
#1889
It seemed like Movie really had no game plan past that those first 2 recalls. He pretty much fell apart.

Would have been more exciting if Shine advanced... PvT can't hold a candle to ZvT. 99% of the time.
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KP_CollectoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States744 Posts
January 17 2010 09:31 GMT
#1890
On January 17 2010 18:29 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2010 18:27 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
I really am shocked at how many Flash haters their are...

Movie needs to stick being ballzy in the early game. Macro is not his strength. Or late game management.

It was the same when Iloveoov was great, the average spectator does not understand/enjoy macro heavy styles, its not as beginner friendly as say Boxer's style, it's easy to comperehend that when a marine single handedly kills two lurkers that there's something going on. For macro styles the average spectator will not understand why and what is happening.

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Aurioch
Profile Joined January 2009
United States414 Posts
January 17 2010 09:31 GMT
#1891
On January 17 2010 18:30 TheAntZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2010 18:28 Aurioch wrote:
All these comments about Flash being way ahead of skills is so retarded. What part of skill is there when it comes to turtling all game long...........than push out when ur opponent is depleted, that's just sitting on ur ass until you're sure you win the game, that's not skill

It takes skill not to die to toss attacks/recalls while doing it, it takes skill to position tanks and to macro that well

its still a boring as shit style to watch

Yea but all these comments made out like Movie was a D+ player and Flash was an super S class out of this world to be able to do something like this. Flash's mechanic is exceptional, and this is nothing to be surprise as OMG FLASH SO GOOD U SEE THAT SKILL...overhype much geez
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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
January 17 2010 09:31 GMT
#1892
On January 17 2010 18:28 Aurioch wrote:
All these comments about Flash being way ahead of skills is so retarded. What part of skill is there when it comes to turtling all game long...........than push out when ur opponent is depleted, that's just sitting on ur ass until you're sure you win the game, that's not skill


Fuck off
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KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
January 17 2010 09:31 GMT
#1893
Flash won without doing a single thing. Useful talent toi have.
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Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 17 2010 09:31 GMT
#1894
On January 17 2010 18:31 KP_CollectoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2010 18:29 Puosu wrote:
On January 17 2010 18:27 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
I really am shocked at how many Flash haters their are...

Movie needs to stick being ballzy in the early game. Macro is not his strength. Or late game management.

It was the same when Iloveoov was great, the average spectator does not understand/enjoy macro heavy styles, its not as beginner friendly as say Boxer's style, it's easy to comperehend that when a marine single handedly kills two lurkers that there's something going on. For macro styles the average spectator will not understand why and what is happening.


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Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
January 17 2010 09:31 GMT
#1895
On January 17 2010 18:31 cz wrote:
Idra must be seething about seeing his teammate lose... "He won without doing a single thing."


ROFL
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
January 17 2010 09:31 GMT
#1896
Movie - don't wait until late game to start being aggressive - that and you will need more than just a few recalls to do it.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-17 09:32:10
January 17 2010 09:32 GMT
#1897
I think Flash's playstyle is beautiful to watch.
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Alphonsse
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States518 Posts
January 17 2010 09:32 GMT
#1898
the low apm isn't surprising for a game like that where in between every fight there was 10 minutes of remacroing / not doing much..
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
January 17 2010 09:32 GMT
#1899
On January 17 2010 18:28 Aurioch wrote:
All these comments about Flash being way ahead of skills is so retarded. What part of skill is there when it comes to turtling all game long...........than push out when ur opponent is depleted, that's just sitting on ur ass until you're sure you win the game, that's not skill


but why can only flash pull it off like this?
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
January 17 2010 09:32 GMT
#1900
On January 17 2010 18:31 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
It seemed like Movie really had no game plan past that those first 2 recalls. He pretty much fell apart.

Would have been more exciting if Shine advanced... PvT can't hold a candle to ZvT. 99% of the time.


shine would have gotten raped silly, at least movie is giving a good fight
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