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[OSL] EVER 2009 OSL Grand Final - Flash vs Movie - Page 132

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meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#2621
movie now taking his nat...
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
January 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#2622
Flash takes steroids.
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
January 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#2623
On January 17 2010 19:15 TheBB wrote:
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On January 17 2010 19:13 konadora wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:11 cz wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:11 bearbuddy wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:10 O-ops wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:10 konadora wrote:
3-2 Royal Roader (P)Movie Reverse Comeback plz


Didn't anytime do the same thing?


I think anytime went from 2-0 to 2-2 to 3-2


thanks for telling us about the 2-2 part

uh i think he was talking about

Anytime went 2-0

Then Boxer caught up 2-2

Then Anytime won 3-2

The point is that 2-2 is self-evident.

Lol I'm so retarded >_<
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opsayo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
591 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-17 10:16:46
January 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#2624
nvm :{
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
January 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#2625
anyone discussing the game at hand anymore?
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Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-17 10:16:54
January 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#2626
Never mind. Time is out of joint...
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
January 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#2627
Early timing push for Flash, and Movie is on 1 gate. I smell gg here for Movie
Terran
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#2628
On January 17 2010 19:14 kyzers0ze wrote:
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On January 17 2010 19:13 radadaundandan wrote:
Haha Movie raped Flash in game one? what a joke

strategically

Those strategic recalls were really nice.

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MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
January 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#2629
On January 17 2010 19:15 johnnyspazz wrote:
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On January 17 2010 19:14 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:13 konadora wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:11 cz wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:11 bearbuddy wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:10 O-ops wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:10 konadora wrote:
3-2 Royal Roader (P)Movie Reverse Comeback plz


Didn't anytime do the same thing?


I think anytime went from 2-0 to 2-2 to 3-2


thanks for telling us about the 2-2 part

uh i think he was talking about

Anytime went 2-0

Then Boxer caught up 2-2

Then Anytime won 3-2

Right, but if a series goes from 2-0 to 3-2, it's redundant to say it went through 2-2 along the way. That's a given


LOL are you serious?

yes. you tell me how 3-2 is possible without 2-2
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#2630
Damn... is Movie gonna have enough to fend off this FD push?
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
January 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#2631
On January 17 2010 19:13 cz wrote:
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On January 17 2010 19:13 Devolved wrote:
Remember when Boxer built a factory outside his base and did a FFD so when the toss retreated from his force they walked over the mines...I think it was on Andromeda...yeah that was cool.


Neo Forte

Ah yes. Unfortunately, I don't think we're gonna see anything that memorable from Flash.
$♥$
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
January 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#2632
On January 17 2010 19:16 johnnyspazz wrote:
anyone discussing the game at hand anymore?

R.I.P

Rape.In.Progress.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
January 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#2633
On January 17 2010 19:15 konadora wrote:
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On January 17 2010 19:14 Iplaythings wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:13 KizZBG wrote:
lol Movie still a rookie? o_O

and jeez, when were the last, good, non one sided finals?

Jaedong - Fantasy.

idk even as a Fantasy fan, it seemed like a rape to me (game 1/2 - rape by fantasy, game 3-5, rape by Jaedong)

But the finals itself wasnt onesided if you lookaway from the games.

And I wouldn't say game 3 was onesided.
In the woods, there lurks..
zgl
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1055 Posts
January 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#2634
I have to disagree about Movie "raping" Flash strategically. Movie did play ballsy and gained an economic advantage, but Flash was playing well within his own game plan.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
January 17 2010 10:17 GMT
#2635
KT_Flash: fd lol
KT_Flash: wait nvm
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
January 17 2010 10:17 GMT
#2636
Flash goes home - instead lays a spread out minefield in front of his nat.

Movie's nat nexus just about done. Flash's done too, just seconds later.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44296 Posts
January 17 2010 10:17 GMT
#2637
On January 17 2010 19:16 cz wrote:
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On January 17 2010 19:15 KwarK wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:13 PoP wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:09 KwarK wrote:
Strategically he raped Flash game 1 too. He used the gas steal into proxy elevator rush (see liquipedia) but Flash was too good and scouted it. He then transitioned into hardcore macro play, did a sexy twin observer to get in and see flash's fact count (this was HUGE) and stole Flash's 4th. That is also huge because Flash can always take and hold that base eventually but Movie can do the same with his. They're safe bases. Every mineral Movie mined there was a mineral Flash couldn't.
It was insanely good strategically. He then followed it up with twin forge twin stargate fast arbiter while running his army around pretending to be aggressive. And Flash bought it hook, line and sinker and was a long way behind. If you put a Protoss and Terran player of the same skill in that game at that time it'd be over. It was just Flash was so incredible at dealing with it that Movie couldn't win. Flash blocked recalls with a line of turrets and mines, Movie hallucinates beyond the mines. Flash has to mine everywhere and Movie feints at the main with hallucinations and smashes into the mineral only. Everything Movie did that game was genius. Incredible strategic play. Had it been anyone but Flash they'd have lost it several times over. It is unfortunate to Movie that despite being easily the 3rd best player in the world right now he's thrown against the 1st.


Flash has been playing like a fucking genius there's absolutely no way to deny that. And Movie is showing extremely good preparation, good builds/strategies and excellent decision-making. I agree with you on everything you wrote.

My point is only about the execution thing.

Flash is holding on by execution alone and that's because he's #1 in the world. I don't honestly see how we can hold that against Movie. Worse execution than Flash is not a fair criticism of any player. He's already proven his PvZ is the best in the world and now his PvT is looking scary. The only problem at the moment is his inexperience in big games and his sloppy execution. I can't defend his sloppy execution but I can defend his gameplay as a whole because the rest of it is so damn good.


I wouldn't judge Movie's PvT much by this series: he has his entire team (likely) prepping him for these matches for the past two weeks.

He's 5-0 PvT in this OSL up to this series.
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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
January 17 2010 10:17 GMT
#2638
Wow Flash being reeheeeeeaaally cautious.
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Terranlisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Singapore1404 Posts
January 17 2010 10:17 GMT
#2639
flash expecting cheese
aka myheronoob
Catyoul *
Profile Joined April 2004
France2377 Posts
January 17 2010 10:17 GMT
#2640
On January 17 2010 19:15 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2010 19:13 PoP wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:09 KwarK wrote:
Strategically he raped Flash game 1 too. He used the gas steal into proxy elevator rush (see liquipedia) but Flash was too good and scouted it. He then transitioned into hardcore macro play, did a sexy twin observer to get in and see flash's fact count (this was HUGE) and stole Flash's 4th. That is also huge because Flash can always take and hold that base eventually but Movie can do the same with his. They're safe bases. Every mineral Movie mined there was a mineral Flash couldn't.
It was insanely good strategically. He then followed it up with twin forge twin stargate fast arbiter while running his army around pretending to be aggressive. And Flash bought it hook, line and sinker and was a long way behind. If you put a Protoss and Terran player of the same skill in that game at that time it'd be over. It was just Flash was so incredible at dealing with it that Movie couldn't win. Flash blocked recalls with a line of turrets and mines, Movie hallucinates beyond the mines. Flash has to mine everywhere and Movie feints at the main with hallucinations and smashes into the mineral only. Everything Movie did that game was genius. Incredible strategic play. Had it been anyone but Flash they'd have lost it several times over. It is unfortunate to Movie that despite being easily the 3rd best player in the world right now he's thrown against the 1st.


Flash has been playing like a fucking genius there's absolutely no way to deny that. And Movie is showing extremely good preparation, good builds/strategies and excellent decision-making. I agree with you on everything you wrote.

My point is only about the execution thing.

Flash is holding on by execution alone and that's because he's #1 in the world. I don't honestly see how we can hold that against Movie. Worse execution than Flash is not a fair criticism of any player. He's already proven his PvZ is the best in the world and now his PvT is looking scary. The only problem at the moment is his inexperience in big games and his sloppy execution. I can't defend his sloppy execution but I can defend his gameplay as a whole because the rest of it is so damn good.

I think we completely agree. Movie's doing fantastic stuff, it's really something to see Flash just brush it off like it's nothing. He's really on another level.
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