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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
January 07 2010 11:33 GMT
#1601
On January 07 2010 20:33 nozaro33 wrote:
Flash's gas is awfully slow

because he built a CC
© Current year.
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
January 07 2010 11:33 GMT
#1602
On January 07 2010 20:24 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 20:22 d_so wrote:
maybe faksteve needs to take off his sea-colored goggles and realize that most players would have quit from the Toss's perspective after getting his third attacked or most Terrans would have quit after the second recall. efficient openings or even playstyle aside, this was an example of great strategy and personality, if not mechanics.



you really have no idea what you're talking about, please stop. that game was like lose-at-courage level by best and utterly passive by flash

You are what d, d+ ? And you think your understanding of starcraft is good enough for you to distinguish between "lose at courage" and top 2 in the world pvt?
rofl ~~
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
January 07 2010 11:33 GMT
#1603
1 rax expo vs what looks to be fast dt's or reaver
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
January 07 2010 11:33 GMT
#1604
On January 07 2010 20:32 johanes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 20:31 ondik wrote:
what the fuck at people calling best BM T_T

well he obviously should leave like 10 minutes earlier,. BM enough for me

then see what BM stands for and consider that this is bo5 quaterfinal
jesus, kids who throw xx player bm xx everywehre piss me off so much
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
January 07 2010 11:33 GMT
#1605
On January 07 2010 20:32 kNyTTyM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 20:29 Conquest101 wrote:
On January 07 2010 20:27 kNyTTyM wrote:
pretty boring game but the scv buffer shield and the mass patrol for recall defense was pretty interesting.

Are the scv buffers worth the supply they take up? I really feel like I'd rather have the extra vultures but there must be reason for them.


No, not particularly. But Flash had 1 mining expo at that time so had a glut of excess SCVS. At that point it's either suicide them or put them to some use. Either way is kinda meh.


But with the excess of minerals he accumulated off of 4 bases, wouldn't he have been better off just suiciding them and resupplying with vultures? That's what confused me since a decent while later he did that anyways


Meh, I attribute it to Flash trying to be cute (and passive), which he was the whole game. As many people have pointed out, Flash could have just pushed at any time during that game and won.
UGC4
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Peru532 Posts
January 07 2010 11:34 GMT
#1606
IT IS OBVIOUS that BEST lost the game as soon as he let FLASH get the 6oclock.
if BEST had committed all his units/recalls/stasis to deny that base, he would have WON so easily because flash was mined out.

in a map that is equal in bases...why the fuck would you let a TERRAN match you in number of bases? BeSt can be sooo dumb argh
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Guilty
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada812 Posts
January 07 2010 11:34 GMT
#1607
flash so greedy, he must know best plays passively to begin with i guess
"How hard could it be?" -J. Clarkson
ItsBigfoot
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States432 Posts
January 07 2010 11:34 GMT
#1608
On January 07 2010 20:30 fearus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 20:28 lazz wrote:
On January 07 2010 20:18 IH4t3z3rg wrote:
On January 07 2010 20:17 GoSu wrote:
FlaSh played so wel!!!! EPIC PvT!!!!!


Maybe u meant FLASH camped so well? This was a game of a man (Best) vs a pussy (Flash)

hahahaha this is gold. i agree completely.


vouched


well, let's look at our flash hater flow chart.

you're right, he didn't cheese or try one of his standard pushes, he must be a pussy now

even if best turtled up too, clearly flash is at fault
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dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 11:34:46
January 07 2010 11:34 GMT
#1609
I noticed that Best rarely makes HT in PvT. That was the key reason why he lost against Lomo in the Grand Final. I am not sure why. He simply doesn't mine all of his gases and he simply refuse to make HT.

Yet it was HT that won him the game against Flash in the proleague. The man either loves his arbiters a little too much or hates HT with a passion.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
January 07 2010 11:34 GMT
#1610
On January 07 2010 20:33 KlaCkoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 20:24 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 07 2010 20:22 d_so wrote:
maybe faksteve needs to take off his sea-colored goggles and realize that most players would have quit from the Toss's perspective after getting his third attacked or most Terrans would have quit after the second recall. efficient openings or even playstyle aside, this was an example of great strategy and personality, if not mechanics.



you really have no idea what you're talking about, please stop. that game was like lose-at-courage level by best and utterly passive by flash

You are what d, d+ ? And you think your understanding of starcraft is good enough for you to distinguish between "lose at courage" and top 2 in the world pvt?
rofl ~~

Fakesteves like b- on a good day dude so yeah he knows ^^
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
January 07 2010 11:34 GMT
#1611
wow flashs CC is soooo fast
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
January 07 2010 11:35 GMT
#1612
On January 07 2010 20:32 Drazzzt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 20:30 konadora wrote:
Flash played the way he did BECAUSE of the map

12 can be nuked (which he did), and he can take 6 anytime

Which means Toss will at any point of time always be at 3 gas, and as long as Flash shows strong defence against recalls and/or straight on breaks, he knew he'll win.

Which was what he did.

This is most probably be true, but it anyways is kinda boring if you have such a huge lead, to just drag on the game for ever...

he played like that because he knew that BeSt has no choice but to take 12 at some point of time, where which Flash will then nuke him.

Flash wanted to nuke him.
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Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
January 07 2010 11:35 GMT
#1613
On January 07 2010 20:34 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 20:33 KlaCkoN wrote:
On January 07 2010 20:24 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 07 2010 20:22 d_so wrote:
maybe faksteve needs to take off his sea-colored goggles and realize that most players would have quit from the Toss's perspective after getting his third attacked or most Terrans would have quit after the second recall. efficient openings or even playstyle aside, this was an example of great strategy and personality, if not mechanics.



you really have no idea what you're talking about, please stop. that game was like lose-at-courage level by best and utterly passive by flash

You are what d, d+ ? And you think your understanding of starcraft is good enough for you to distinguish between "lose at courage" and top 2 in the world pvt?
rofl ~~

Fakesteves like b- on a good day dude so yeah he knows ^^

rofl
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
January 07 2010 11:35 GMT
#1614
On January 07 2010 20:33 lazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 20:31 darktreb wrote:
How can Protoss players whine about Terran though when someone like Best can be nearly invincible in PvT and he doesn't even make HTs?

terran palyers tend to exagerrate teh effectiveness of HTs. they're nice and all.. IF they dont get insta squashed by vults/tanks, or EMPd, and your opponent clumps tanks ups. they're nice, but they're not as good as terran players seem to make out

plus you kinda have to sacrifice your arbs if you want to get templar. Best thinks having 1 arb is worth more than 2 templar, esp since he has no upgrades for his templar
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 07 2010 11:35 GMT
#1615
On January 07 2010 20:34 UGC4 wrote:
IT IS OBVIOUS that BEST lost the game as soon as he let FLASH get the 6oclock.
if BEST had committed all his units/recalls/stasis to deny that base, he would have WON so easily because flash was mined out.

in a map that is equal in bases...why the fuck would you let a TERRAN match you in number of bases? BeSt can be sooo dumb argh


No, when Flash was mined out he had lost practically no units and easily had over 7K minerals and 5K gas while still mining gas at bottom right.
Remember Violet.
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2246 Posts
January 07 2010 11:35 GMT
#1616
On January 07 2010 20:33 Itachii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 20:32 johanes wrote:
On January 07 2010 20:31 ondik wrote:
what the fuck at people calling best BM T_T

well he obviously should leave like 10 minutes earlier,. BM enough for me

then see what BM stands for and consider that this is bo5 quaterfinal
jesus, kids who throw xx player bm xx everywehre piss me off so much

sorry, but what best did was pure definition of BM, like some random D kid on Iccup
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
January 07 2010 11:35 GMT
#1617
Best now trying to snipe Flash's Bunker with Goons. Repair imba is holding him off though.

Tank making right now for Flash.
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Majk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden146 Posts
January 07 2010 11:35 GMT
#1618
On January 07 2010 20:29 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 20:27 Majk wrote:
What a sad Turtlefest that game was... Why didn't Flash attack more in the early game? Why did Best Suicide his army into Flash tank line instead go for the draw? Anyway a really sad game for Starcraft...

Best couldnt go for the draw. Terran can try to force a draw, Toss have to attack or get slow pushed to death.


Well, lets hope Flash stops turtle and start to entertain us then, for the sake of Starcraft fans that want some action.
Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
January 07 2010 11:36 GMT
#1619
On January 07 2010 20:33 KlaCkoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 20:24 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 07 2010 20:22 d_so wrote:
maybe faksteve needs to take off his sea-colored goggles and realize that most players would have quit from the Toss's perspective after getting his third attacked or most Terrans would have quit after the second recall. efficient openings or even playstyle aside, this was an example of great strategy and personality, if not mechanics.



you really have no idea what you're talking about, please stop. that game was like lose-at-courage level by best and utterly passive by flash

You are what d, d+ ? And you think your understanding of starcraft is good enough for you to distinguish between "lose at courage" and top 2 in the world pvt?
rofl ~~


Apparently good enough to call that game correctly. =p
Watch the VOD. Watch Best's make no fucking sense build and his nat getting raped.
Than, watch Flash sit there THE WHOLE GAME DESPITE HAVING A BETTER ECONOMY, BIGGER ARMY, BETTER UPGRADES, EVERYTHING MORE. k.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
January 07 2010 11:36 GMT
#1620
On January 07 2010 20:33 KlaCkoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 20:24 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 07 2010 20:22 d_so wrote:
maybe faksteve needs to take off his sea-colored goggles and realize that most players would have quit from the Toss's perspective after getting his third attacked or most Terrans would have quit after the second recall. efficient openings or even playstyle aside, this was an example of great strategy and personality, if not mechanics.



you really have no idea what you're talking about, please stop. that game was like lose-at-courage level by best and utterly passive by flash

You are what d, d+ ? And you think your understanding of starcraft is good enough for you to distinguish between "lose at courage" and top 2 in the world pvt?
rofl ~~



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