EPT[MSL] Nate MSL Quarterfinals Day 1 - Page 48
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
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Hungary3932 Posts
On December 31 2009 20:28 alffla wrote: LOL THERES AN AFLAC AD ON THAT DEFINITION PAGE yeah, i was just about to ask, does that have anything to do with you, and being a duck, all in all?:D | ||
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darktreb
United States3019 Posts
On December 31 2009 20:26 Vasoline73 wrote: Honestly I expect BeSt to get rolled the rest of this series. Wtf was that, it's not PL Flash isn't going to just 2 armory every game.. it's his first TvP Bo5 since vs Backho in GSL1. Really have no idea what to say if BeSt's whole game plan vs Flash is "I'll try to sneak an expo and outmacro him"... when Stork did it it fit the map and Stork had applied early pressure.. BeSt was just praying Flash didn't do ANYTHING. -_-. Well like Ver said Best's build was really smart and probably a sure win against standard Flash play. Maybe Best thought Flash would play totally standard since he didn't have that much time to prepare? Best's strat is so good against normal Flash because he can take his fake 3rd at fairly normal timing and his 4th is already so secure. It can be hard to tell P ninja'd an expo because they could have spent their money on so many things in base. But, since Flash pushed - once no DTs came to defend and Reavers were sooooo late and Best's natural was also clearly very late (just by checking the minerals), Flash probably got wind that something was up. If Flash played standard Best could even fake an empty Shuttle (because Flash's turret defense is going to be perfect anyway) to make the timings seem more regular and maybe make it look like he's going super fast Arbiters. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On December 31 2009 20:29 SuperArc wrote: There was enough time for Best to skip probes and get more gateways/units since he had scouted Flash with his first observer. I'm pretty sure he was prepared to give up his nat when he saw the push. There was no way the gates could finish before Flash's army reached Best's nat. | ||
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ghosthunter
United States414 Posts
On December 31 2009 20:28 AttackZerg wrote: god affla shit up this live report so badly. I normally enjoy reading them but god damn he made it so uggly and unreadable =(. I miss the days were people gave a LR that was to be read not kona style posting =( One comment I'd have for this, which is also something I've been debating. It might amke more sense to have a separate actual "Live Report Thread", becuase people tend to use these to just discuss the matches as a whole and as a community, thus for those involved, it's a lot more fun, but it's not very informative for those trying to read it. So basically, you'd have this post, then you'd have a link on the front page to a "Live Report Post", where people would just post pure facts rather than speculation or anything. That would clean it up, while also keeping the charm and environment that make these games fun to watch together as a community. I'll try and experiment with this next time I make one of these. | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10346 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On December 31 2009 20:30 Cambium wrote: I'm pretty sure he was prepared to give up his nat when he saw the push. There was no way the gates could finish before Flash's army reached Best's nat. He transfered probes to his nat when he saw Flash's units. If he would have wanted to give up the nat, he wouldnt have tried defending on the low ground. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On December 31 2009 20:32 ghosthunter wrote: One comment I'd have for this, which is also something I've been debating. It might amke more sense to have a separate actual "Live Report Thread", becuase people tend to use these to just discuss the matches as a whole and as a community, thus for those involved, it's a lot more fun, but it's not very informative for those trying to read it. So basically, you'd have this post, then you'd have a link on the front page to a "Live Report Post", where people would just post pure facts rather than speculation or anything. That would clean it up, while also keeping the charm and environment that make these games fun to watch together as a community. I'll try and experiment with this next time I make one of these. Don't. It just unnecessarily clutters the forums and makes finding specific threads more difficult. | ||
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Hinanawi
United States2250 Posts
Let's go 3-0! | ||
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Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
On December 31 2009 20:29 SuperArc wrote: There was enough time for Best to skip probes and get more gateways/units since he had scouted Flash with his first observer. Seriously, once you double nexus like that your not gonna be able to defend. Even if you cut probes your gateways will not be up in time to help. What Best did was a crazy greedy build, that suffers vs any kind of early aggression like that. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On December 31 2009 20:33 SuperArc wrote: He transfered probes to his nat when he saw Flash's units. If he would have wanted to give up the nat, he wouldnt have tried defending on the low ground. I think he was trying to reduce Flash's army size (and it worked actually). Otherwise he'd risk losing his main or getting contained. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On December 31 2009 20:33 Hinanawi wrote: Fun fact: If Flash 3-0s Calm tomorrow, he'll break both 2400 Elo and 70% overall winrate. Let's go 3-0! four won games wont give Flash 0.4% win rate 2400 ELO is possible, but 70% win rate is damn far away. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7579 Posts
On December 31 2009 20:33 TwoToneTerran wrote: Don't. It just unnecessarily clutters the forums and makes finding specific threads more difficult. I agree. It is just the quality of the posters. Being super excited is one thing but spaming single phrases that make no coherant sense is just fucking stupid. I think the excitement is the real reason to read. ( and save time) but at a certain point I'm not 12 and this isn't gosugamers and shitty posting gets old =( | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17743 Posts
On December 31 2009 20:29 SuperArc wrote: There was enough time for Best to skip probes and get more gateways/units since he had scouted Flash with his first observer. dont think he knew flash was going to do some 2 fact push. When his obs got in i think he expect flash to do what he always do what best's build was designed against for. 2 fact ebay/armory acad and then take his third. He probably expected flash to be passive. Maybe his lack of agression with his goons tipped flash off that he didnt have a lot of goons which made flash try to do a delayed 2 fact attack. | ||
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
On December 31 2009 20:35 SuperArc wrote: four won games wont give Flash 0.4% win rate 2400 ELO is possible, but 70% win rate is damn far away. Did you try doing the math? 236/337 > .7. | ||
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
On December 31 2009 20:35 SuperArc wrote: four won games wont give Flash 0.4% win rate 2400 ELO is possible, but 70% win rate is damn far away. It is not. It is just 4 wins away  But 3 wins without loss will push his percentage to only 69.94% | ||
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ghosthunter
United States414 Posts
On December 31 2009 20:33 TwoToneTerran wrote: Don't. It just unnecessarily clutters the forums and makes finding specific threads more difficult. However, if you made it into like, say a blog post that was linked to through the main page of this, that way people wouldn't view it as cluttered, and thus everything would be linked through the main post which would make finding it easy. I've seen quite a few people lately complaining that these "LR Threads" aren't really... LR-ish, which I'd agree with. It's a possible solution if that's something people would like. | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
On December 31 2009 20:33 SuperArc wrote: He transfered probes to his nat when he saw Flash's units. If he would have wanted to give up the nat, he wouldnt have tried defending on the low ground. there's no other way except to defend on the low ground | ||
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Hinanawi
United States2250 Posts
On December 31 2009 20:35 SuperArc wrote: four won games wont give Flash 0.4% win rate 2400 ELO is possible, but 70% win rate is damn far away. Eh? Maybe I'm fat-fingering the calculator buttons, it's happened before... Before tonight: 232-101 (69.67%) After tonight: 233-101 (69.76%) With a 3-0 against Calm: 236-101 (70.03%) | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On December 31 2009 20:37 ghosthunter wrote: However, if you made it into like, say a blog post that was linked to through the main page of this, that way people wouldn't view it as cluttered, and thus everything would be linked through the main post which would make finding it easy. I've seen quite a few people lately complaining that these "LR Threads" aren't really... LR-ish, which I'd agree with. It's a possible solution if that's something people would like. It's called a gameday thread on other forums and is really just people posting thoughts on whatever's going on. Quality isn't expected. | ||
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