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Deleted User 31060
3788 Posts
On December 30 2009 16:24 TwoToneTerran wrote: KT is a much deeper team than anyone. The only thing they lack is a second strong terran. Still waiting, ForGG. >:[ you're going to be waiting a really long time if you expect him to be good again. | ||
GTR
51637 Posts
On December 30 2009 16:18 We Are Here wrote: no they wont, KT is a much deeper team than it use to be thats what they all said when they had;  ReachNal_rA YellOwChoJJa SyncTheMarineGoodfriend | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13081 Posts
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Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
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Phradamon
Romania191 Posts
On December 30 2009 18:07 GTR wrote: thats what they all said when they had; ReachNal_rAYellOwChoJJaSyncTheMarineGoodfriend And NaDa  | ||
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johnnyspazz
Taiwan1470 Posts
On December 30 2009 15:57 baubo wrote: T1's play today looked just horrible. s2 saw like 8 early marines pick off his ovie, never scouted the natural, and somehow decided that it means he needs no sunken. Seriously, did he think Flash went hidden CC or something? Best got crushed when he defended 3-gates with 4-gates by attacking only when he has a smaller army, and then retreats when he has a bigger army. And then proceeds to get his probes stormed 1224287 times at his natural. Canata saw no 3rd base by Luxury and didn't bother defending against all-in lurkers. I mean, what was he expecting? Quick 2-gas hive? its very possible that s2 believed that flash started making his cc inside his base only to lift and place at nat later... | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On December 30 2009 16:17 disciple wrote: meh, SKT will destroy KT in the playoffs anyway Playoffs? SKT won't know what playoffs is this season :> | ||
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RamenStyle
United States1929 Posts
On December 30 2009 18:07 GTR wrote: thats what they all said when they had; ReachNal_rAYellOwChoJJaSyncTheMarineGoodfriendThis is depth, ladies and gentlemen. And yet, they failed like the Lakers of Kobe, Malone and Payton, and they are still to win a PL. Maybe this is the one, or maybe not. Maybe it's time for CJ to shine some more gold. | ||
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RamenStyle
United States1929 Posts
On December 30 2009 19:30 Kaniol wrote: Playoffs? SKT won't know what playoffs is this season :> This reminds me of how much people were saying at the beginning of the season who much imba SKT was. That they were just going to destroy everyone. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On December 30 2009 19:36 RamenStyle wrote: This reminds me of how much people were saying at the beginning of the season who much imba SKT was. That they were just going to destroy everyone. And now they're in sixth place. :> | ||
Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
But, I think it will be KT and SKT. CJ is another possibility though. If SKT wants to make it Bisu has to start taking off his damn jacket when he plays and acting seriously. He was so happy when he beat whatever his name is, it's sad. Should just be another expected win but no, because he's been sucking ass lately he gets all happy about 1 win. | ||
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Kyo Yuy
United States1286 Posts
They were in sixth place in R3 of 2008-09 Shinhan Bank Proleague. I'm not too worried myself. | ||
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citi.zen
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
They had Boxer back, oov and so mani good players. They started pretty well on this year SPL round 1. Then suddenly Fantasy lose all his matches, and then I guess Bisu can't win easy as well. And then Best and Canata... And the new hyped player Hyuk now no longer playing... What is happening? I hope this is just a small slump and hope they get out of it soon! | ||
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Hazard
Norway594 Posts
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RamenStyle
United States1929 Posts
On December 30 2009 22:32 Kyo Yuy wrote: They were in sixth place in R3 of 2008-09 Shinhan Bank Proleague. I'm not too worried myself. Last year, when they were sixth, it was during the horrible SKTZerg era and when Hyuk and TheZerg were sent to the ace match quite more often than not. Still, they had an up and coming Fantasy, a still monstruous BeSt, a TvT streaking Canata and a back on top Bisu. They had two beasts in both Terran and Protoss, plus each of those players specialty didn't overlap. Canata was on a somewhat 10 TvT win streak, Fantasy was showing the SKT TvZ legacy, Bisu was an almost sure win in PvZ and PvP and BeSt would just destroy anyone at PvT. Many thought weren't if for the terrible zerg lineup, they would cruise thru the PL. And with Hyuk coming big in the pre-season and at the start of R1, SKT seemed unbeatable and with so much depth. Boxer and oov still being able to pull it ocasionally. Mong tearing up in the preseason. The situation has changed. BeSt is not a beast anymore, just a good player. Fantasy is nowhere to be found. Canata is back to being a mediocre player. Bisu is still top dog, but he has given up the protoss leadership to Stork. Hyuk is an SKTzerg again. Granted, theres still a lot of PL to go, but Bisu himself can't do a JaedongOz. T1 fans better hope that BeSt and Fantasy come out of their slump. | ||
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Kyo Yuy
United States1286 Posts
On December 31 2009 00:20 RamenStyle wrote: Last year, when they were sixth, it was during the horrible SKTZerg era and when Hyuk and TheZerg were sent to the ace match quite more often than not. Still, they had an up and coming Fantasy, a still monstruous BeSt, a TvT streaking Canata and a back on top Bisu. They had two beasts in both Terran and Protoss, plus each of those players specialty didn't overlap. Canata was on a somewhat 10 TvT win streak, Fantasy was showing the SKT TvZ legacy, Bisu was an almost sure win in PvZ and PvP and BeSt would just destroy anyone at PvT. Many thought weren't if for the terrible zerg lineup, they would cruise thru the PL. And with Hyuk coming big in the pre-season and at the start of R1, SKT seemed unbeatable and with so much depth. Boxer and oov still being able to pull it ocasionally. Mong tearing up in the preseason. The situation has changed. BeSt is not a beast anymore, just a good player. Fantasy is nowhere to be found. Canata is back to being a mediocre player. Bisu is still top dog, but he has given up the protoss leadership to Stork. Hyuk is an SKTzerg again. Granted, theres still a lot of PL to go, but Bisu himself can't do a JaedongOz. T1 fans better hope that BeSt and Fantasy come out of their slump. Best started slumping after he lost to Stork in Incruit, and that was right as Winner's League was starting. Best continued to slump through round 4 and wasn't really in top form in round 5. He was doing absolutely horrible in the individual leagues in the first half of 2009. I would argue that he didn't start coming back until R1 of 2009-10. Fantasy has creative TvZ but many would argue that his TvZ was never really all that great. He did manage to knock GGPlay out of Incruit, but he also lost to Jaedong in two separate series. He also lost to a number of "mediocre zergs" in the beginning of 2009. The only case I would argue for is Bisu, but even he wasn't doing too hot during Winner's League. He got sniped by Hoejja in the Winner's League play offs and that led to SKT being knocked out by none other than KT. Starcraft is a game where the top players can change on an almost weekly basis. Random players will come out of nowhere and suddenly blitz through the individual leagues, taking out favorite players left and right (Shine, Kwanro, and type-b and strong examples). Some of these stay consistent while others drop right away. Likewise even the best players will enter short term slumps - during the Six Dragons Era, Jaedong looked utterly vulnerable, as he did not qualify for Incruit and got knocked out of ClubDay MSL by Free. He was again knocked out in GOMTV S2 by Tempest. Do I expect SKT to take the Grand Finals again? Not necessarily. Do I feel like I need to worry just because the team is doing badly NOW, when Proleague is a year long endeavor with five rounds and we're not even halfway there? Of course not. People are too critical of a team/player's performance in a week or even a DAY. So much can change over the long term that I am not even going to fret about my favorite team right this second. | ||
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DoX.)
Singapore6164 Posts
On December 30 2009 23:14 XiaoJoyce- wrote: I am so sad, last year #1 SPL team became kept losing suddenly for nothing. They had Boxer back, oov and so mani good players. They started pretty well on this year SPL round 1. Then suddenly Fantasy lose all his matches, and then I guess Bisu can't win easy as well. And then Best and Canata... And the new hyped player Hyuk now no longer playing... What is happening? I hope this is just a small slump and hope they get out of it soon! Should start playing Boxer+Oov every match obv | ||
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
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calvinL
Canada416 Posts
On December 31 2009 01:45 DyEnasTy wrote: I didnt take the time to go through all the comments, but is New Tornado a T>P map? Im just wondering why wouldnt they send out Best/Bisu over S2? You can't really predict that, Flash has been sent out on a different map in every proleague game. | ||
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