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foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
December 26 2009 11:59 GMT
#521
Great, CJ powah! ^-^
觀過斯知仁矣.
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
December 26 2009 16:18 GMT
#522
Yeah, go Iris. And CJ rookies hwaiting!
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
December 26 2009 16:25 GMT
#523
Did (Z)Killer throw that game away, or did (Z)Hydra just react really well?

His response to the 9pool < 12 pool disadvantage was to add his second hatch in his main. He did a good job of holding off Killer's zerglings, and then tried to pressure with his firts mutas, but Killer had spore'd up. So instead of forcing the issue like we've seen so many zergs do recently, Hydra expanded, and was able to barely hold that (moving his mutas out to damage Killer's gas was a risky and almost deadly decision) but when he did hold it, suddenly he resumed muta production at just about the timing that Killer was getting mutas.

So in essence, Hydra was able to turn a base defect into a hatchery advantage, and did so at just the right timing. I just don't think Killer knew how to react, while Hydra had clearly played this exact situation before.
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StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
December 26 2009 16:49 GMT
#524
On December 26 2009 13:07 FireGuyX wrote:
Movie pretty much mastered HBR, a ZvP favored map.


I think Movie realizes that corsair/reaver is the ONLY way to go on HBR, it's too bad Stork didn't realize that.

Jaedong is copying the exact same built that Shine used against Stork =). Jaedong will realize that Movie isn't Stork on HBR.

damn HBR is so imba for Zergs.




lol Love the progression dude. Praise Movie. Insult Stork. Then reinforce that you think Movie >>> Stork. Then when Movie gets utterly bitch stomped even faster than Stork, blame map imba. NICE!
idortlol
Profile Joined August 2009
United States13 Posts
December 26 2009 16:50 GMT
#525
JD rolled over Movie easily. I do not understand why the predictions indicated Movie to beat JD in each match-up.

The Iris/PM fight was pretty interesting. I for one enjoyed watching that match despite some of the "C - B level" moves they made. Still, go go Iris!

Saw bits of the Effort match and, well, it's Effort. Effort is the #2 Zerg player in the world. :3

Did not see Killer vs. Hydra.
You cant direct the winds, but you can adjust your sails.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
December 26 2009 16:59 GMT
#526
On December 27 2009 01:49 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2009 13:07 FireGuyX wrote:
Movie pretty much mastered HBR, a ZvP favored map.


I think Movie realizes that corsair/reaver is the ONLY way to go on HBR, it's too bad Stork didn't realize that.

Jaedong is copying the exact same built that Shine used against Stork =). Jaedong will realize that Movie isn't Stork on HBR.

damn HBR is so imba for Zergs.




lol Love the progression dude. Praise Movie. Insult Stork. Then reinforce that you think Movie >>> Stork. Then when Movie gets utterly bitch stomped even faster than Stork, blame map imba. NICE!


You shouldn't call out people on insulting stork, since you've shown in your posts you think movie is as it fault/bad as much as he thinks stork is at fault/bad
sAviOr...
Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
December 26 2009 18:25 GMT
#527
go ahead CJ!

put OZ in their place

OZ is nothing but pure shit without JD, as shown in this series
Nony is Bonjwa
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
December 26 2009 18:29 GMT
#528
On December 27 2009 01:49 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2009 13:07 FireGuyX wrote:
Movie pretty much mastered HBR, a ZvP favored map.


I think Movie realizes that corsair/reaver is the ONLY way to go on HBR, it's too bad Stork didn't realize that.

Jaedong is copying the exact same built that Shine used against Stork =). Jaedong will realize that Movie isn't Stork on HBR.

damn HBR is so imba for Zergs.




lol Love the progression dude. Praise Movie. Insult Stork. Then reinforce that you think Movie >>> Stork. Then when Movie gets utterly bitch stomped even faster than Stork, blame map imba. NICE!


Yeah, this is getting out of hand. Especially since the build and timing Jaedong used were completely different from Movie's.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
December 26 2009 18:30 GMT
#529
On December 27 2009 01:59 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2009 01:49 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On December 26 2009 13:07 FireGuyX wrote:
Movie pretty much mastered HBR, a ZvP favored map.


I think Movie realizes that corsair/reaver is the ONLY way to go on HBR, it's too bad Stork didn't realize that.

Jaedong is copying the exact same built that Shine used against Stork =). Jaedong will realize that Movie isn't Stork on HBR.

damn HBR is so imba for Zergs.




lol Love the progression dude. Praise Movie. Insult Stork. Then reinforce that you think Movie >>> Stork. Then when Movie gets utterly bitch stomped even faster than Stork, blame map imba. NICE!


You shouldn't call out people on insulting stork, since you've shown in your posts you think movie is as it fault/bad as much as he thinks stork is at fault/bad


I don't think Stork > Movie in PvZ. I think they're about equal. He thinks the opposite. Yet, when the evidence is laid out there plain as day, he starts blaming map imba rather than the player.
Glaucus
Profile Joined June 2009
479 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-26 18:34:57
December 26 2009 18:34 GMT
#530
Movie isn't that good. His games are often ugly.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
December 26 2009 18:35 GMT
#531
On December 27 2009 01:25 tree.hugger wrote:
Did (Z)Killer throw that game away, or did (Z)Hydra just react really well?

His response to the 9pool < 12 pool disadvantage was to add his second hatch in his main. He did a good job of holding off Killer's zerglings, and then tried to pressure with his firts mutas, but Killer had spore'd up. So instead of forcing the issue like we've seen so many zergs do recently, Hydra expanded, and was able to barely hold that (moving his mutas out to damage Killer's gas was a risky and almost deadly decision) but when he did hold it, suddenly he resumed muta production at just about the timing that Killer was getting mutas.

So in essence, Hydra was able to turn a base defect into a hatchery advantage, and did so at just the right timing. I just don't think Killer knew how to react, while Hydra had clearly played this exact situation before.


No, hydra really played that well. Like you said it looks like they played this in practice before.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-26 23:08:38
December 26 2009 23:08 GMT
#532
So Jaedong abused HBR just like Shine did...
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
December 26 2009 23:14 GMT
#533
I kinda lost some respect for Jaedong after that game. Seriously, play a straight up game, don't abuse.
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Abyzou
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden209 Posts
December 28 2009 00:15 GMT
#534
Fuck yeah CJ <3
Savior and Jaedong, how come zerg progamers are so awesome?
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