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ItsBigfoot
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States432 Posts
December 16 2009 04:37 GMT
#101
Shine is just really, really good for about the first 15 minutes, it's very entertaining to watch. he's damn near perfect before the late game, but i think that's why people don't like him (that and bisu fanboyism). everyone wants to see 25 minute macrofests with huge battles, but this guy can usually end it in 10, without needing an all in. If he ever picks up his lategame I think he'll be an extremely good player.
Kal Fighting!
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
December 16 2009 04:37 GMT
#102
i'm hoping skyhigh wins.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
December 16 2009 04:38 GMT
#103
On December 16 2009 13:33 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2009 13:29 Harem wrote:
On December 16 2009 13:27 Chen wrote:
On December 16 2009 13:23 Nevuk wrote:
On December 16 2009 13:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On December 16 2009 13:19 Nevuk wrote:
Are people finally going to admit that Shine is actually good?


probably not.

Yeah, I think you're right. If he took the MSL and OSL back to back I still think most of TL would dislike him.

It hurts his cause that hes relatively ugly and he wins are really bland. Unlike a new player like Fantasy he doesnt do any special and exciting build orders and unlike Effort we dont see any extraordinary play that screams star.
In fact, most of the games Shine wins you come away with sense of wow his opponent failed so hard. note the word most, there are exceptions to every rule

How was his game vs Violet bland at all?

He is one of the smarter zergs out there atm.

I have not seen him make one awesome game-changing move yet. I thought Queens in ultra-late game ZvP were quasi-standard. also he showed horrible multi-task that game getting over a hundred drones, no exaggeration, slaughtered by harass. again there may be one or two exceptions out there, but most of the time his opponent miserably fails, Fantasy, Bisu game 1, Effort, or he goes ultra-standard and wins in a boring way. Bisu game 3


Chen, in every thread, you're trolling, and I know you can't stop yourself from being a dipshit, but please, please try.

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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 16 2009 04:39 GMT
#104
Yeah, Shine is a goofy lookin dude but seriously watch his inerview in the MSL selection ceremony. He's a super cool guy.
RIP Aaliyah
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
December 16 2009 04:39 GMT
#105
On December 16 2009 13:37 cakemanofdoom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2009 13:31 Nevuk wrote:
On December 16 2009 13:27 Chen wrote:
On December 16 2009 13:23 Nevuk wrote:
On December 16 2009 13:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On December 16 2009 13:19 Nevuk wrote:
Are people finally going to admit that Shine is actually good?


probably not.

Yeah, I think you're right. If he took the MSL and OSL back to back I still think most of TL would dislike him.

It hurts his cause that hes relatively ugly and he wins are really bland. Unlike a new player like Fantasy he doesnt do any special and exciting build orders and unlike Effort we dont see any extraordinary play that screams star.
In fact, most of the games Shine wins you come away with sense of wow his opponent failed so hard. note the word most, there are exceptions to every rule

He's ugly? He just looks kind of young to me, not really ugly. A bit unique looking maybe, he just always seems so happy except when he's playing. Someone actually ugly would be like Hiya or Go.go.

Most of Shine's wins recently it's seemed like he's very effectively exploited existing weaknesses that other zergs had yet to do. His micro was impressive vs both Bisu and all the ZvZ he's been very impressive. He almost overcame the build order loss to calm with excellent scourge micro, etc. He's very aggressive without being all-innish in the same way Kwanro or Luxury are.

I've noticed that all his facial features are kinda bunched in the middle of his face, which I find
kinda annoying. Also, I seem to remember his glasses being a bit wide for his eyes, so it looks like his eyes are crossed, making him look dumb (not saying in any way that he is dumb, just the appearance he gives off).

I took a long time writing this, so it's probably way outdated.

Yeah, I can see this. He does look kind of comedic but I don't equate that with ugly. Personal preference though.
muramasa
Profile Joined March 2005
Canada1299 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-16 04:41:57
December 16 2009 04:39 GMT
#106
SkyHigh will probably lose since I traded him off my anti-team for this week.
Hong Jin Ho. Nevar forget.
eatmyshorts5
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1530 Posts
December 16 2009 04:42 GMT
#107
For my sake i hope the predictions are correct.
BF:BC2 ID: BisuStork//CJ Entusman #32
mmgoose
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
769 Posts
December 16 2009 04:42 GMT
#108
tossup but i have skyhigh winning

clutch player that he is
And you know if a grandmother had a penis she would be a grandfather.
mmgoose
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
769 Posts
December 16 2009 04:47 GMT
#109
anyone mind lring please?
And you know if a grandmother had a penis she would be a grandfather.
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
December 16 2009 04:48 GMT
#110
Goddammit CJ, why can't your players win on the rare occasions I want them to T_T
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
December 16 2009 04:48 GMT
#111
Skyhigh going 2 fact if I'm not mistaken.

Mind going for a starport.
mmgoose
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
769 Posts
December 16 2009 04:49 GMT
#112
On December 16 2009 13:48 Womwomwom wrote:
Skyhigh going 2 fact if I'm not mistaken.

Mind going for a starport.


thank you!
And you know if a grandmother had a penis she would be a grandfather.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-16 04:52:12
December 16 2009 04:50 GMT
#113
MInd slips two vultures into Skyhigh's main. They took out the SCV constructing the natural CC.

Wraiths are taking out Skyhigh's barracks. Mind is getting cloak and while Skyhigh has goliaths, there is no sign of an engineering bay or comsat.
mg
Profile Joined August 2009
88 Posts
December 16 2009 04:54 GMT
#114
Font choice based on your name is awesome btw
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 16 2009 04:54 GMT
#115
On December 16 2009 13:54 mg wrote:
Font choice based on your name is awesome btw


Of course it is.
RIP Aaliyah
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
December 16 2009 04:57 GMT
#116
wow, how the hell did Mind blow his advantage?...
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 16 2009 04:58 GMT
#117
Yes! Jo Byung Se fighting!
RIP Aaliyah
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
December 16 2009 04:59 GMT
#118
(T)sKyHigh has a good siege position behind (T)Mind's natural, causing real trouble for Mind. Large sKyHigh army moving across the center. Mind expanding.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-16 05:00:48
December 16 2009 05:00 GMT
#119
On December 16 2009 13:57 Chen wrote:
wow, how the hell did Mind blow his advantage?...


He didn't really have too great an advantage. His harass wasn't that effective, and sKyHigh had a field army and position advantage with his vultures/mines.

(T)sKyHigh expanding, shutting down (T)Mind's expo.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
December 16 2009 05:02 GMT
#120
Wraiths snipe Mind's 3rd base >> looks like 2 players on my anti are going to win today ;__;
WOW WTF? VALKS FOR MIND
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