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disciple
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saikeraku
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Ver
United States2186 Posts
On December 09 2009 14:41 Chen wrote: every build order has either a soft counter or hard counter.... remember the Fantasy build? it was fucking rape until zerg learned to hard-counter it. 2-hatch muta owns really fast tech, no way around it, sometimes you gotta cut corners and hope. Canata never lost to 2 hatch muta with that strategy. Fantasy did lose to shine for doing the build incorrectly, outside of that he has also beaten 2 hatch muta every/nearly every time with that strategy. 2 hatch muta does not own those types of builds, please don't spread absurd statements. Effort stayed on lair an unusually long time not sure what he was thinking. Normally you rush hive as fast as you can vs those strategies but I guess Effort didn't think Fantasy would push out at that timing? | ||
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Foreplay
United States1154 Posts
On December 09 2009 14:40 MountainDewJunkie wrote: No way Movie could lose to thezerg. That's as absurd as Effort losing to Cana-- Eeeeee.... too soon | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10346 Posts
On December 09 2009 14:44 tree.hugger wrote: I'm sure he knew about it, he just knew he had the upper hand, and stuck with it. Even if he didn't know, it wasn't going to stop that push. Not on lair tech... I STILL don't get how fantasy can be so average (51%?!?!?) at TvZ with oov and boxer working so closely with him... Even Canata has (statistically) better TvZ! I don't get this. | ||
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Khalleb
Canada1909 Posts
edit: + Show Spoiler + and we will see a BOXER VS IDRA ACE !!!!! | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On December 09 2009 14:44 tree.hugger wrote: I'm sure he knew about it, he just knew he had the upper hand, and stuck with it. He knew there was one, I think, but he didn't know where, and didn't want to waste time or scans looking for it. | ||
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
On December 09 2009 14:45 Ver wrote: Canata never lost to 2 hatch muta with that strategy. Fantasy did lose to shine for doing the build incorrectly, outside of that he has also beaten 2 hatch muta every/nearly every time with that strategy. 2 hatch muta does not own those types of builds, please don't spread absurd statements. Effort stayed on lair an unusually long time not sure what he was thinking. Normally you rush hive as fast as you can vs those strategies but I guess Effort didn't think Fantasy would push out at that timing? sorry, i play toss so i dont know this MU that well, just based statements on what i saw in the Fantasy-shine game But how does a terran counter 2-hatch mutas with that build? did Fantasy just react badly to it? cause it seems like irradiate isnt in time for 2-hatch mutas and you have no AA other than marines out of 1rax | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On December 09 2009 14:46 KhAlleB wrote: DAzerg will fail again and we will see a BOXER VS IDRA ACE !!!!! how can someone currently posting in this thread be sent for ace | ||
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Plutonium
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
On December 09 2009 14:45 disciple wrote: wasnt this the same build Justin used against Jaedong on Andromeda a year or so ago? Justin failed obviously his was super fast vessels after expo I think, similar but not exactly the same (no tanks and stuff) | ||
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
On December 09 2009 14:45 Ver wrote: Canata never lost to 2 hatch muta with that strategy. Fantasy did lose to shine for doing the build incorrectly, outside of that he has also beaten 2 hatch muta every/nearly every time with that strategy. 2 hatch muta does not own those types of builds, please don't spread absurd statements. Effort stayed on lair an unusually long time not sure what he was thinking. Normally you rush hive as fast as you can vs those strategies but I guess Effort didn't think Fantasy would push out at that timing? sorry, i play toss so i dont know this MU that well, just based statements on what i saw in the Fantasy-shine game But how does a terran counter 2-hatch mutas with that build? did Fantasy just react badly to it? cause it seems like irradiate isnt in time for 2-hatch mutas and you have no AA other than marines out of 1rax | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
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MuffinDude
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Plutonium
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sharkeyanti
United States1273 Posts
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
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jalstar
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
On December 09 2009 14:49 Chen wrote: sorry, i play toss so i dont know this MU that well, just based statements on what i saw in the Fantasy-shine game But how does a terran counter 2-hatch mutas with that build? did Fantasy just react badly to it? cause it seems like irradiate isnt in time for 2-hatch mutas and you have no AA other than marines out of 1rax That was one long delay between double posts  Terran counters 2 Hatch by using that wraith to make the Zerg guard his overlords for as long as possible. You use that time to get that e-bay and turrets up. | ||
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