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On December 09 2009 14:37 JWD wrote:
that muta tech switch really did not work out well for Effort, perhaps he expected more of a mech army to roll out? Early vessels + MnM transition mopped up all those mutas pretty easily.
That mutalisk switch cost him badly. I guess he was expecting mech,
Also why was the spire so late? If he had got the spire as soon as the lair finished, he couldve scourge scouted the mnm,
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no way movie loses to  Thezerg
if this happens, it's best to never play a PvZ again...
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Which stream are people watching? I'm kind of switching between streams, but they're all quite jerky for me, and kind of giving me a headache.
BTW, go Canata!!! Awesome build. The key, for idiot Fantasy, is not to get scouted! Effort went for hydra/lurker, which was totally owned by a siege tank heavy army.
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I see a Movie star taking CJ to ace!!
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No way Movie could lose to thezerg. That's as absurd as Effort losing to Cana-- Eeeeee....
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Mutas are strongest before vessel - getting them after vessel wasn't so great.
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On December 09 2009 14:38 Colbert wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2009 14:37 Hyde wrote:On December 09 2009 14:36 konadora wrote:
Canata: "Fantasy is doing it all wrong" Lol, yeah this build actually works for Canata 2 hatch vs. 3 hatch BIG difference.
Effort had a bad eco in the beginning by going 9 pool instead of 12 hatch. He was already at a disadvantage since he made lings and Canata walled-in.
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
On December 09 2009 14:38 iamho wrote:
i think effort was expecting pure mech or something, then didn't notice the tech switch until it was too late to get defilers
Wrong. Effort saw the dual e-bays yet still went Mutas.
No reason to go Mutas anyway if your opponent is producing out of his FRONT RAX???
Honestly Effort...
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On December 09 2009 14:38 tree.hugger wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2009 14:36 Slow Motion wrote:
Mediocre execution of a brilliant strat wins. Brilliant strats aren't auto-gg's against two hatch muta. It looks like SKT put a little more thought into that build though, perhaps we'll see it again?
every build order has either a soft counter or hard counter.... remember the Fantasy build? it was fucking rape until zerg learned to hard-counter it. 2-hatch muta owns really fast tech, no way around it, sometimes you gotta cut corners and hope.
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On December 09 2009 14:40 Random_0 wrote:
Which stream are people watching? I'm kind of switching between streams, but they're all quite jerky for me, and kind of giving me a headache.
BTW, go Canata!!! Awesome build. The key, for idiot Fantasy, is not to get scouted! Effort went for hydra/lurker, which was totally owned by a siege tank heavy army.
Solinren's is pretty stable
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On December 09 2009 14:36 Chen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2009 14:36 konadora wrote:
Canata: "Fantasy is doing it all wrong" Fantasy: Canata didnt get 2-hatch muta rushed.
Isn't 2 hatch muta the build to go against mech in the first place? =S
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Cmon thezerg pull a Canata and win
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Canata had no idea about the ninja expo either...
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On December 09 2009 14:41 Chen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2009 14:38 tree.hugger wrote:On December 09 2009 14:36 Slow Motion wrote:
Mediocre execution of a brilliant strat wins. Brilliant strats aren't auto-gg's against two hatch muta. It looks like SKT put a little more thought into that build though, perhaps we'll see it again? every build order has either a soft counter or hard counter.... remember the Fantasy build? it was fucking rape until zerg learned to hard-counter it. 2-hatch muta owns really fast tech, no way around it, sometimes you gotta cut corners and hope.
2 hatch muta isnt a hard counter to fast tech, its not really even a soft counter. the fantasy build just wasnt that solid in general once everyone learned the timings and got used to fighting a mech army.
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canata never knew about effort third
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K-pop proving it should not venture into hip-hop styles, in English no less...
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On December 09 2009 14:43 meeple wrote:
Canata had no idea about the ninja expo either...
im sure he knew, most zergs expand to the unused main in 3-player maps
i think it was just the mech->bio transition that screwed him over
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On December 09 2009 14:43 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2009 14:41 Chen wrote:On December 09 2009 14:38 tree.hugger wrote:On December 09 2009 14:36 Slow Motion wrote:
Mediocre execution of a brilliant strat wins. Brilliant strats aren't auto-gg's against two hatch muta. It looks like SKT put a little more thought into that build though, perhaps we'll see it again? every build order has either a soft counter or hard counter.... remember the Fantasy build? it was fucking rape until zerg learned to hard-counter it. 2-hatch muta owns really fast tech, no way around it, sometimes you gotta cut corners and hope. 2 hatch muta isnt a hard counter to fast tech, its not really even a soft counter. the fantasy build just wasnt that solid in general once everyone learned the timings and got used to fighting a mech army.
O.o so how does a terran counter 2-hatch mutas with that build? did Fantasy just react badly to it?
cause it seems like irradiate isnt in time for 2-hatch mutas and you have no AA other than marines out of 1rax
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On December 09 2009 14:43 meeple wrote:
Canata had no idea about the ninja expo either...
I'm sure he knew about it, he just knew he had the upper hand, and stuck with it.
On December 09 2009 14:44 Jackal03 wrote:no more ninja  Movie
I'm nervous.
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