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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 03 2009 14:07 GMT
#1101
What the F happened here today? Bigger upsets than SKT v. Hite
Jaedong
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
December 03 2009 14:07 GMT
#1102
On December 03 2009 22:56 motbob wrote:
It's too bad that the discussion is centering around Savior and Bisu when one of the best games this MSL was played between Bogus and Guemchi.


Right after Jaedong vs Crazy Hidra if you appreciate high level ZvZ , but yeah Bogus vs Guemchi was a good game . Bogus played solid , but guemchi had the pimp moves that sealed the game in his favour .
Spanxxx
Profile Joined February 2009
United States408 Posts
December 03 2009 14:15 GMT
#1103
wait, wut? ..what a let down.. seriously, what a let down.. i would've been happy with either savior or bisu advancing, but for neither it's just sad.
If people arent trying to pull you down, you arent climbing high enough.
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6122 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-03 14:20:51
December 03 2009 14:16 GMT
#1104
Good job Bogus for ruining the MSL.

Cheesing noob. I mean if he beat Bisu straight up then fine, its Bisu's fault. But that was just lame.
#1 Terran hater
ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
December 03 2009 14:18 GMT
#1105
This is bullshit bogus.
If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-03 14:24:11
December 03 2009 14:19 GMT
#1106
On December 03 2009 23:16 Highways wrote:
Good job Bogus for ruining the MSL.

Cheesing noob.

Be mad at Bisu. He's the one who lost to Guemchi and Bogus.
I mean if he beat Bisu straight up then fine, its Bisu's fault. But that was just lame.

So if a progamer loses to cheese, it's not his fault? LOLLLLLLLLLL
ModeratorGood content always wins.
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
December 03 2009 14:21 GMT
#1107
These results, are way too funny
If you have to ask, you don't know.
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
December 03 2009 14:21 GMT
#1108
On December 03 2009 22:42 MrHoon wrote:
2002 NATE OSL RETURNS WITH A VENGEANCE



you stole my quote dude. not fine.
Bisu... ;-(
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
December 03 2009 14:23 GMT
#1109
On December 03 2009 23:19 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 23:16 Highways wrote:
Good job Bogus for ruining the MSL.

Cheesing noob.

Be mad at Bisu. He's the one who lost to Guemchi and Bogus.


Yeah, Bisu shouldn't have been even in that situation to begin with. It's his fault for losing a PvP and being forced to win 2 games in a row. He gets cheesed out of alot of tournaments in crucial tourny games, you'd think he'd learn by now. Such an easy group and fail.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
December 03 2009 14:24 GMT
#1110
omfg this blows
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
December 03 2009 14:33 GMT
#1111
LOL YESSSSSSSSSS

Blame the maps, bisu. Blame the maps.
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
b0lt
Profile Joined March 2009
United States790 Posts
December 03 2009 14:36 GMT
#1112
YESSSSSSS. 1 more protoss flash doesn't have to face
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
December 03 2009 14:39 GMT
#1113
WTF, this is what I call an anticlimax.
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-03 14:42:47
December 03 2009 14:41 GMT
#1114
On December 03 2009 22:48 meeple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 22:39 Appendix wrote:
I don´t get, how can you claim it´s bad for professional starcraft that the same players doesn't advance every tournament? I agree Bisu is(or at least have been) capable of doing amazing games, but saying he should advance just because he is Bisu is just petty and bad for e-sports. Bisu just has to learn to not throw away games.


We shouldn't say Bisu should advance because he's the better player? Bisu is better than Guemchi and Bogus... just because he lost to them, doesn't make them better. The better player is supposed to advance, thats why this is disappointing.

It's like watching a squirrel get run over. He should've turned around, and not become a friggin road pizza, but he didn't turn around and his innards were splattered all over the highway. It doesn't change the fact that we can be sad that he should've turned around.



Hahahaha what? Why have a tournament then? Tournaments are about whoever plays the best games advancing, not who is the hypothetical "best player" in a vacuum. Would you literally rather they not play games at all? That's what you're suggesting, essentially, and it's REALLY stupid.

If all you care about is the "best player" don't look at tournament results. Just look at PR or ELO and ignore everything else because tournaments are designed to produce a winner based on a sequence of individual games, as opposed to how cool someone is.
the last wcs commissioner
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
December 03 2009 14:41 GMT
#1115
i must be drunk or this is a joke right?
Forever Young
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-03 14:53:01
December 03 2009 14:42 GMT
#1116
On December 03 2009 22:42 MrHoon wrote:
2002 NATE OSL RETURNS WITH A VENGEANCE


What Left:
Bisu
Stork
Savior
Calm
July
fOrGG


For those of you who are still in a daze, this is the round 32 of MSL.

Who's Left:
Jaedong
Flash
Effort
Luxury
Jangbi
BeSt
Zero
And many others.

This is the round 32. It's not even over yet. And now we have only 3 S-class, and 4 A-class left. Some of these seven will likely be eliminated soon, in round 32 as well.
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
December 03 2009 14:53 GMT
#1117
On December 03 2009 23:41 tedster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 22:48 meeple wrote:
On December 03 2009 22:39 Appendix wrote:
I don´t get, how can you claim it´s bad for professional starcraft that the same players doesn't advance every tournament? I agree Bisu is(or at least have been) capable of doing amazing games, but saying he should advance just because he is Bisu is just petty and bad for e-sports. Bisu just has to learn to not throw away games.


We shouldn't say Bisu should advance because he's the better player? Bisu is better than Guemchi and Bogus... just because he lost to them, doesn't make them better. The better player is supposed to advance, thats why this is disappointing.

It's like watching a squirrel get run over. He should've turned around, and not become a friggin road pizza, but he didn't turn around and his innards were splattered all over the highway. It doesn't change the fact that we can be sad that he should've turned around.



Hahahaha what? Why have a tournament then? Tournaments are about whoever plays the best games advancing, not who is the hypothetical "best player" in a vacuum. Would you literally rather they not play games at all? That's what you're suggesting, essentially, and it's REALLY stupid.

If all you care about is the "best player" don't look at tournament results. Just look at PR or ELO and ignore everything else because tournaments are designed to produce a winner based on a sequence of individual games, as opposed to how cool someone is.


Whoa way to miss my whole point. I said we can be sad about the better player not advancing, nothing to do with what actually happened. Bisu should not have advanced, he played worse and lost games to both Guemchi and Bogus. But it doesn't change the fact that he's a better player and I wish he would've advanced.
JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
December 03 2009 14:56 GMT
#1118
Wait a minute, did I just enter a dimensional portal to get here in the Bizarro Starcraft Land?
Bogus and Guemchi advancing was the joke option of this group!

At least Jaedong qualified, there may still be hope on this bizarro land.
perfecting the art of five pool forever
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
December 03 2009 15:07 GMT
#1119
lol MSL is struggling to get sponsors due to its lackluster star turnouts and then this keeps happening.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 03 2009 15:18 GMT
#1120
Goddammit, Bisu, way to fuck up my liquibets.
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