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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
On December 03 2009 22:04 MrHoon wrote: They're on the same side of the bracket, they can only see in semifinals  Brackets are done by Kespa ranking arent they? 1st vs 8th 2nd vs 3rd etc | ||
motbob
United States12546 Posts
On December 03 2009 22:04 MrHoon wrote: They're on the same side of the bracket, they can only see in semifinals NO, remember? MSL seeds based on Kespa now! | ||
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
On December 03 2009 22:06 GrimAngel wrote: sigh the results are so disappointing. I don't get why some people are so happy about guemchi and bogus advancing. I'm quite sure bisu and savior would have drawn more crowds than guemchi and bogus. Well here's hoping BeSt wins this msl! oh actually is Flash vs BeSt finals possible? | ||
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okum
France5779 Posts
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Noxide
United States2870 Posts
Bisu I can get but Savior never makes it deep anyway. They should have won here but still not much to say besides poor play. | ||
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darktreb
United States3019 Posts
On December 03 2009 22:03 Waxangel wrote: Why? They both played very poorly. The best game of the night was between the two underdogs. Is fandom so strong that you'd rather watch bad games between famous players than good games between unknowns? That's a bit of a leap - they're both good players (I hate him but Bisu is a great player even if he loses some big games). I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that maybe Savior and definitely Bisu would be more likely to generate great games and great series in BoX down the road. Bogus vs Guemchi was a good high level game but if Bisu had played instead of Guemchi he would have crushed Bogus a lot earlier, and if Flash had played instead of Bogus, he would have won easily too. Neither Bogus nor Guemchi is that amazing and while both have potential, neither are going to win this tournament (quote me on it) and neither are even top 30 progamers right now in my book. | ||
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Appendix
Sweden979 Posts
Shun the funnyhaters. | ||
disciple
9071 Posts
On December 03 2009 22:07 Noxide wrote: Bisu I can get but Savior never makes it deep anyway. They should have won here but still not much to say besides poor play. I will watch Bisu vs Savior playing poorly against each other any day, cause it thrills me. I really can appreciate the skills of Bogus and GuemChi in this case, but I have not skipped classes, hoping to see a high quality clash between these two | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On December 03 2009 22:07 okum wrote: Right now I'm really, really scared that Flash might go the way of the Bisu and Stork too. Have faith, if there's one person we can count on in this crazy world, its Flash... or Jaedong... | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On December 03 2009 22:03 Waxangel wrote: Why? They both played very poorly. The best game of the night was between the two underdogs. Is fandom so strong that you'd rather watch bad games between famous players than good games between unknowns? The thing is, players like Bisu, they might perform poorly in one or two games, but overall they're often capable of delivering good competition (and entertainment). The like of Bogus, sure they can spark, but like what? one in a blue moon? ... Then what's next? Getting crushed in less than 10 minutes by another mediocre player, which leads to a Frozean vs TheZerg kind of final? I'm not saying Bisu deserved to move on. If he didn't win, he didn't deserve it, period. But it sucks so much from most BW fans' point of view. Seriously who would want another Kwanro vs Calm finals? | ||
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darktreb
United States3019 Posts
It's not a stretch that both make RO8 (though I think Kwanro is a strong favorite and Hwasin a slight one). Given the way MSL does things based off of Kespa rank in RO8, that means JD and maybe even Effort (safe bet that Effort makes it) will get relatively easy opponents for an RO8 game since they're the top 2 Kespa seeds. | ||
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Noxide
United States2870 Posts
On December 03 2009 22:07 okum wrote: Right now I'm really, really scared that Flash might go the way of the Bisu and Stork too. He's got FvT and FvZ's to look forward to, doubt it will be a problem. No T or Z recently has even come close to beating him, whole different level right now. Unlike the players who lost today. | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
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NguN
Australia1322 Posts
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LosingID8
CA10835 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
As for Jangbi and Kal, please make it out of your groups. PLEASE. | ||
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Gann1
United States1575 Posts
On December 03 2009 22:10 meeple wrote: Have faith, if there's one person we can count on in this crazy world, its Flash... or Jaedong... Unless he runs into the mighty Kwanro again. | ||
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Noxide
United States2870 Posts
On December 03 2009 22:10 darktreb wrote: What's really funny is that Guemchi is playing Hwasin and Bogus is playing Kwanro. It's not a stretch that both make RO8 (though I think Kwanro is a strong favorite and Hwasin a slight one). Given the way MSL does things based off of Kespa rank in RO8, that means JD and maybe even Effort (safe bet that Effort makes it) will get relatively easy opponents for an RO8 game since they're the top 2 Kespa seeds. Make DT's against him and Hwasin just flops over. No problem. | ||
Waxangel
United States33650 Posts
On December 03 2009 22:08 darktreb wrote: That's a bit of a leap - they're both good players (I hate him but Bisu is a great player even if he loses some big games). I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that maybe Savior and definitely Bisu would be more likely to generate great games and great series in BoX down the road. Bogus vs Guemchi was a good high level game but if Bisu had played instead of Guemchi he would have crushed Bogus a lot earlier, and if Flash had played instead of Bogus, he would have won easily too. Neither Bogus nor Guemchi is that amazing and while both have potential, neither are going to win this tournament (quote me on it) and neither are even top 30 progamers right now in my book. Savior is definitely bad, anyone being objective would not have expected him to make it out of the group anyway. I can understand wanting Bisu to go through on potential, since he might break out of his slump and start playing better. Saying player X would have won in situation Y is silly, but i'll entertain it here. I think Flash might have done better from Bogus's position since it was a similar style. Bisu in Guemchi's position is just a completely different game. Bisu rarely plays such a "cute" indirect style of PvT, and is overaggressive to a fault at times. Can't say anything about that one. | ||
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