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Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia982 Posts
December 03 2009 12:08 GMT
#681
On December 03 2009 21:04 QuanChi wrote:
this guemchi is such a C player and still won... WTF happened to starcraft... who made this stupid map?

What the hell, it was one of the best games lately. You go try recalling/stretching/delaying over and over like that.
Seriously, sometimes terrans cry too hard. It's not like Guemchi put any less effort than Bogus this game.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
December 03 2009 12:08 GMT
#682
ma jae yoon fighting!

gogogo savior, beat bisu out of the msl (and be 3-0 this year against him, a fitting revenge)
BW is back
Rucky
Profile Joined February 2008
United States717 Posts
December 03 2009 12:08 GMT
#683
On December 03 2009 21:05 Waxangel wrote:
That was a tough spot for Terran, going to late game on a map where the two most important expansions are on opposite corners.


i guess he should of taken one of them...
Beyond the Game
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-03 12:09:53
December 03 2009 12:08 GMT
#684
On December 03 2009 21:07 Holgerius wrote:
That game was brilliant in many ways, it sure as hell was entertaining. But as a Terran player I will have nightmares for months to come. How the fuck do you deal with that bullshit?

Well you could learn from flash and have a vessel waiting at each expo for one. Takes incredible mini map awareness and reaction though. That requires not losing tons of vessels to goon sniping though
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 03 2009 12:08 GMT
#685
On December 03 2009 21:06 QuanChi wrote:
the commentators are ex pros? who are they?


I know IntoTheRain commentates MBCGame. Kingdom and nal_rA do OnGameNet. GARIMTO did Gom.
RIP Aaliyah
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
December 03 2009 12:08 GMT
#686
Huge win for Guemchi. F plays B right? So he plays Hwasin instead of Kwanro ... Guemchi might make RO8 haha.
[AhunGrY]MelOn
Profile Joined November 2008
United States357 Posts
December 03 2009 12:08 GMT
#687
On December 03 2009 21:06 GeLaar wrote:
Interview:

He's happy to have advanced first and not second, cause this way he doesn't have to face someone (didn't catch who) next.

He didn't know about the hidden expansion either. He says he got lucky, because if it had gone differently it would've been really hard to win.

Edit: There was also some other stuff, but I didn't catch everything. I think at the end he said something about the other players in the group being good and advancing first being unexpected or smth.


he doesnt have to play kwanro who's on his team
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8181 Posts
December 03 2009 12:09 GMT
#688
It would be funny if both Bisu and Savior failed to advance. Honestly, it looks like that could be the case. Bogus is a favorite v Savior (especially on Match Point) and he just showed a pretty high level TvP... so.. :/
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 03 2009 12:09 GMT
#689
On December 03 2009 21:08 Rucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 21:05 Waxangel wrote:
That was a tough spot for Terran, going to late game on a map where the two most important expansions are on opposite corners.


i guess he should of taken one of them...


You can't defend faraway expansions as terran. You have to expand in the direction of your push. mobile armies like protoss and zerg have a bit more freedom with expansion in that sense.
RIP Aaliyah
nisukeapple
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
314 Posts
December 03 2009 12:09 GMT
#690
On December 03 2009 21:06 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 21:04 okum wrote:
On December 03 2009 20:49 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Lol at everyone talking about how Imba recall is, then guemchi gets r aped

Come again?

His recalls were getting raped at the time.

Why take a quote out of context 20 minutes later?

\

it's called using one's words as part of their own
a quote
lots of uses !
feel free to msn at me
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
December 03 2009 12:09 GMT
#691
On December 03 2009 21:08 Rucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 21:05 Waxangel wrote:
That was a tough spot for Terran, going to late game on a map where the two most important expansions are on opposite corners.


i guess he should of taken one of them...


Terran can't really be spread out like that, Guemchi would just recall in his base or one of his other expos and then proceed to rape the expo in question.
Minimal effort.
QuanChi
Profile Joined February 2003
Brazil133 Posts
December 03 2009 12:09 GMT
#692
On December 03 2009 21:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 21:06 QuanChi wrote:
the commentators are ex pros? who are they?


I know IntoTheRain commentates MBCGame. Kingdom and nal_rA do OnGameNet. GARIMTO did Gom.

I mean in THIS game... They are young, but there is no intotherain, kingsom, nal_ra or garimto... I've seen those games for ages but never know who they are. Someone plz?
there and back again
unionbank
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia666 Posts
December 03 2009 12:10 GMT
#693
bogus can eat hagus
김정우.... 이겼다!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
December 03 2009 12:10 GMT
#694
On December 03 2009 21:07 Holgerius wrote:
That game was brilliant in many ways, it sure as hell was entertaining. But as a Terran player I will have nightmares for months to come. How the fuck do you deal with that bullshit?

Bogus made a few critical mistakes.

-He let Protoss have free reign of the bottom of the map. When he finally started trying to take out his expos there it was too late.
-His recall defenses (mines etc.) at his last few mining bases weren't 100% perfect, which is pretty inexcusable.

However, that game was mostly won by Guemchi's play. His two attacks, the ones in the middle and very end of the game w/stasis and storm, were just amazing.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
December 03 2009 12:10 GMT
#695
He just needed to be faster on his emps... I don't think I saw a single really clutch emp that whole game. And there were like 50 recalls
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-03 12:12:21
December 03 2009 12:10 GMT
#696
On December 03 2009 21:09 nisukeapple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 21:06 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On December 03 2009 21:04 okum wrote:
On December 03 2009 20:49 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Lol at everyone talking about how Imba recall is, then guemchi gets r aped

Come again?

His recalls were getting raped at the time.

Why take a quote out of context 20 minutes later?

\

it's called using one's words as part of their own
a quote
lots of uses !

Do you even know what "out of context" means?

I didn't ask what a quote was or what it was for at all.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 03 2009 12:11 GMT
#697
On December 03 2009 21:10 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 21:07 Holgerius wrote:
That game was brilliant in many ways, it sure as hell was entertaining. But as a Terran player I will have nightmares for months to come. How the fuck do you deal with that bullshit?

Bogus made a few critical mistakes.

-He let Protoss have free reign of the bottom of the map. When he finally started trying to take out his expos there it was too late.
-His recall defenses (mines etc.) at his last few mining bases weren't 100% perfect, which is pretty inexcusable.

However, that game was mostly won by Guemchi's play. His two attacks, the ones in the middle and very end of the game w/stasis and storm, were just amazing.


I think GuemChi deserves a lot of credit for keeping bogus at the top. Bogus could have done a better job but GuemChi had complete control.
RIP Aaliyah
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33706 Posts
December 03 2009 12:11 GMT
#698
On December 03 2009 21:08 Rucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 21:05 Waxangel wrote:
That was a tough spot for Terran, going to late game on a map where the two most important expansions are on opposite corners.


i guess he should of taken one of them...


I think it was a good move by Guemchi to defend 1:00 even at the cost of troops and keep trying to retake it. The announcers suggested he just throw it away many times, but I think Guemchi knew that giving Terran 1:00 turns the map into a one half vs one half fight, which was not good for toss.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 03 2009 12:12 GMT
#699
On December 03 2009 21:11 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 21:08 Rucky wrote:
On December 03 2009 21:05 Waxangel wrote:
That was a tough spot for Terran, going to late game on a map where the two most important expansions are on opposite corners.


i guess he should of taken one of them...


I think it was a good move by Guemchi to defend 1:00 even at the cost of troops and keep trying to retake it. The announcers suggested he just throw it away many times, but I think Guemchi knew that giving Terran 1:00 turns the map into a one half vs one half fight, which was not good for toss.


It also kept Bogus' army at the top of the map so he didn't have to worry so much about his bottom expansions.
RIP Aaliyah
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
December 03 2009 12:12 GMT
#700
On December 03 2009 21:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 21:10 motbob wrote:
On December 03 2009 21:07 Holgerius wrote:
That game was brilliant in many ways, it sure as hell was entertaining. But as a Terran player I will have nightmares for months to come. How the fuck do you deal with that bullshit?

Bogus made a few critical mistakes.

-He let Protoss have free reign of the bottom of the map. When he finally started trying to take out his expos there it was too late.
-His recall defenses (mines etc.) at his last few mining bases weren't 100% perfect, which is pretty inexcusable.

However, that game was mostly won by Guemchi's play. His two attacks, the ones in the middle and very end of the game w/stasis and storm, were just amazing.


I think GuemChi deserves a lot of credit for keeping bogus at the top. Bogus could have done a better job but GuemChi had complete control.

Maybe Guemchi created the perception that Bogus had to keep his bajillion tanks up there, but the reality is that he could have spared a few for harass purposes.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
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