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On December 03 2009 21:04 QuanChi wrote: this guemchi is such a C player and still won... WTF happened to starcraft... who made this stupid map? What the hell, it was one of the best games lately. You go try recalling/stretching/delaying over and over like that. Seriously, sometimes terrans cry too hard. It's not like Guemchi put any less effort than Bogus this game.
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ma jae yoon fighting!
gogogo savior, beat bisu out of the msl (and be 3-0 this year against him, a fitting revenge)
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On December 03 2009 21:05 Waxangel wrote: That was a tough spot for Terran, going to late game on a map where the two most important expansions are on opposite corners.
i guess he should of taken one of them...
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On December 03 2009 21:07 Holgerius wrote:That game was brilliant in many ways, it sure as hell was entertaining. But as a Terran player I will have nightmares for months to come. How the fuck do you deal with that bullshit?  Well you could learn from flash and have a vessel waiting at each expo for one. Takes incredible mini map awareness and reaction though. That requires not losing tons of vessels to goon sniping though
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On December 03 2009 21:06 QuanChi wrote: the commentators are ex pros? who are they?
I know IntoTheRain commentates MBCGame. Kingdom and nal_rA do OnGameNet. GARIMTO did Gom.
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Huge win for Guemchi. F plays B right? So he plays Hwasin instead of Kwanro ... Guemchi might make RO8 haha.
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On December 03 2009 21:06 GeLaar wrote: Interview:
He's happy to have advanced first and not second, cause this way he doesn't have to face someone (didn't catch who) next.
He didn't know about the hidden expansion either. He says he got lucky, because if it had gone differently it would've been really hard to win.
Edit: There was also some other stuff, but I didn't catch everything. I think at the end he said something about the other players in the group being good and advancing first being unexpected or smth.
he doesnt have to play kwanro who's on his team
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It would be funny if both Bisu and Savior failed to advance. Honestly, it looks like that could be the case. Bogus is a favorite v Savior (especially on Match Point) and he just showed a pretty high level TvP... so.. :/
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On December 03 2009 21:08 Rucky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2009 21:05 Waxangel wrote: That was a tough spot for Terran, going to late game on a map where the two most important expansions are on opposite corners. i guess he should of taken one of them...
You can't defend faraway expansions as terran. You have to expand in the direction of your push. mobile armies like protoss and zerg have a bit more freedom with expansion in that sense.
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On December 03 2009 21:06 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2009 21:04 okum wrote:On December 03 2009 20:49 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Lol at everyone talking about how Imba recall is, then guemchi gets r aped  Come again? His recalls were getting raped at the time. Why take a quote out of context 20 minutes later? \
it's called using one's words as part of their own a quote lots of uses !
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On December 03 2009 21:08 Rucky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2009 21:05 Waxangel wrote: That was a tough spot for Terran, going to late game on a map where the two most important expansions are on opposite corners. i guess he should of taken one of them...
Terran can't really be spread out like that, Guemchi would just recall in his base or one of his other expos and then proceed to rape the expo in question.
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On December 03 2009 21:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2009 21:06 QuanChi wrote: the commentators are ex pros? who are they? I know IntoTheRain commentates MBCGame. Kingdom and nal_rA do OnGameNet. GARIMTO did Gom. I mean in THIS game... They are young, but there is no intotherain, kingsom, nal_ra or garimto... I've seen those games for ages but never know who they are. Someone plz?
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motbob
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On December 03 2009 21:07 Holgerius wrote:That game was brilliant in many ways, it sure as hell was entertaining. But as a Terran player I will have nightmares for months to come. How the fuck do you deal with that bullshit?  Bogus made a few critical mistakes.
-He let Protoss have free reign of the bottom of the map. When he finally started trying to take out his expos there it was too late. -His recall defenses (mines etc.) at his last few mining bases weren't 100% perfect, which is pretty inexcusable.
However, that game was mostly won by Guemchi's play. His two attacks, the ones in the middle and very end of the game w/stasis and storm, were just amazing.
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He just needed to be faster on his emps... I don't think I saw a single really clutch emp that whole game. And there were like 50 recalls
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On December 03 2009 21:09 nisukeapple wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2009 21:06 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On December 03 2009 21:04 okum wrote:On December 03 2009 20:49 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Lol at everyone talking about how Imba recall is, then guemchi gets r aped  Come again? His recalls were getting raped at the time. Why take a quote out of context 20 minutes later? \ it's called using one's words as part of their own a quote lots of uses ! Do you even know what "out of context" means?
I didn't ask what a quote was or what it was for at all.
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On December 03 2009 21:10 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2009 21:07 Holgerius wrote:That game was brilliant in many ways, it sure as hell was entertaining. But as a Terran player I will have nightmares for months to come. How the fuck do you deal with that bullshit?  Bogus made a few critical mistakes. -He let Protoss have free reign of the bottom of the map. When he finally started trying to take out his expos there it was too late. -His recall defenses (mines etc.) at his last few mining bases weren't 100% perfect, which is pretty inexcusable. However, that game was mostly won by Guemchi's play. His two attacks, the ones in the middle and very end of the game w/stasis and storm, were just amazing.
I think GuemChi deserves a lot of credit for keeping bogus at the top. Bogus could have done a better job but GuemChi had complete control.
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On December 03 2009 21:08 Rucky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2009 21:05 Waxangel wrote: That was a tough spot for Terran, going to late game on a map where the two most important expansions are on opposite corners. i guess he should of taken one of them...
I think it was a good move by Guemchi to defend 1:00 even at the cost of troops and keep trying to retake it. The announcers suggested he just throw it away many times, but I think Guemchi knew that giving Terran 1:00 turns the map into a one half vs one half fight, which was not good for toss.
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On December 03 2009 21:11 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2009 21:08 Rucky wrote:On December 03 2009 21:05 Waxangel wrote: That was a tough spot for Terran, going to late game on a map where the two most important expansions are on opposite corners. i guess he should of taken one of them... I think it was a good move by Guemchi to defend 1:00 even at the cost of troops and keep trying to retake it. The announcers suggested he just throw it away many times, but I think Guemchi knew that giving Terran 1:00 turns the map into a one half vs one half fight, which was not good for toss.
It also kept Bogus' army at the top of the map so he didn't have to worry so much about his bottom expansions.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On December 03 2009 21:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2009 21:10 motbob wrote:On December 03 2009 21:07 Holgerius wrote:That game was brilliant in many ways, it sure as hell was entertaining. But as a Terran player I will have nightmares for months to come. How the fuck do you deal with that bullshit?  Bogus made a few critical mistakes. -He let Protoss have free reign of the bottom of the map. When he finally started trying to take out his expos there it was too late. -His recall defenses (mines etc.) at his last few mining bases weren't 100% perfect, which is pretty inexcusable. However, that game was mostly won by Guemchi's play. His two attacks, the ones in the middle and very end of the game w/stasis and storm, were just amazing. I think GuemChi deserves a lot of credit for keeping bogus at the top. Bogus could have done a better job but GuemChi had complete control. Maybe Guemchi created the perception that Bogus had to keep his bajillion tanks up there, but the reality is that he could have spared a few for harass purposes.
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