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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 28 2009 06:50 GMT
#1221
On November 28 2009 15:49 Ideas wrote:
I really wish Calm went hydra-lurk


Fantasy would just outright abuse the chokes and ramps with tanks.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
November 28 2009 06:50 GMT
#1222
On November 28 2009 15:48 cokencheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2009 15:43 Jaksiel wrote:
I really don't think Fantasy played "awesome", he played standard TvZ, and wasn't there a point where he established a new base and his SCVs were just standing there not mining? That game was Calm choking, plain and simple.


Agreed completely. The only impressive thing he did was eraser the lings going up the ramp to Calm's expo. Afterwards he lost all his vessels... :/

The turning point was when he let a handful of MnM kill like 50 zerglings and take out one base. God, Calm sucks.


seriously? you're a khan fan

the turning point was when fantasy took about his 4th gas, i guess he didnt build a nydus or something
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 28 2009 06:51 GMT
#1223
Calm's problem is a weak defense, not necessarily mechanics.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 28 2009 06:52 GMT
#1224
How can Clam fuck up so extremely in both the OSL game and now in this ace game? I'm dumbfounded.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
November 28 2009 06:53 GMT
#1225
On November 28 2009 15:51 Nevuk wrote:
Calm's problem is a weak defense, not necessarily mechanics.

Well, he doesn't have the multitask required to defend everything, which is caused by his weak (relative) mechanics. Not to mention was there any late in the lategame where Calm actually killed a sizeable portion of Fantasy's MnM? No surrounds at all in the lategame. Attacks were badly coordinated.
Jaedong
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
November 28 2009 06:53 GMT
#1226
That was pretty strange play from Calm, he got the level 1 air armor upgrad... then totally abandoned muta play right after. I was sure he would go guards again.
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
Blackhole
Profile Joined October 2009
United States15 Posts
November 28 2009 06:54 GMT
#1227
Fantasy played really well, he kept the defiler count really low with all of his irradiates.
Yes he also won because calm sucked late game.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-28 06:55:14
November 28 2009 06:55 GMT
#1228
On November 28 2009 15:52 Holgerius wrote:
How can Clam fuck up so extremely in both the OSL game and now in this ace game? I'm dumbfounded.

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=106518

Not anymore because here comes Dr.Phil Helvetica
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
November 28 2009 06:58 GMT
#1229
The video of the beaking dancing defiler has already been uploaded!
Jaedong
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
November 28 2009 07:03 GMT
#1230
On November 28 2009 15:58 Avidkeystamper wrote:
The video of the beaking dancing defiler has already been uploaded!

Needs a catchy soundtrack!
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8171 Posts
November 28 2009 07:03 GMT
#1231
man poor calm. 1-5 in 3 days

what a shitty schedule.
Free Palestine
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
November 28 2009 07:06 GMT
#1232
What the heck? When I stopped watching the ace match, Fantasy was losing. Guess I'll need to watch the end...
Liquipedia
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
November 28 2009 07:07 GMT
#1233
On November 28 2009 16:03 Ideas wrote:
man poor calm. 1-5 in 3 days

what a shitty schedule.

and the one game he won basically counts for nothing.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2730 Posts
November 28 2009 07:07 GMT
#1234
I dont think that ACE match would be a recommended game. Both players played bad.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-28 07:10:22
November 28 2009 07:09 GMT
#1235
On November 28 2009 16:03 Ideas wrote:
man poor calm. 1-5 in 3 days

what a shitty schedule.


I'm guessing that he himself asked to be sent for the ace match; otherwise it was just a terrible coaching decision. (Terrible because he's been under so much pressure lately and because it would have been better for him to sleep on his one win. Imagine how crappy he must be feeling now.)

But yes, I feel for him. He's experiencing the "Flash crash".
May the BeSt man win.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 28 2009 07:09 GMT
#1236
On November 28 2009 16:07 haitike wrote:
I dont think that ACE match would be a recommended game. Both players played bad.


what
RIP Aaliyah
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
November 28 2009 07:10 GMT
#1237
On November 28 2009 16:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2009 16:07 haitike wrote:
I dont think that ACE match would be a recommended game. Both players played bad.


what

Well, Fantasy played badly early game, Calm played bad late game. They played good in the other parts. But it was an entertaining game, and in the end, that's what watching SC is about (to me).
Jaedong
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-28 07:16:12
November 28 2009 07:14 GMT
#1238
Quite entertaining game in the end, but Fantasy really didn't play like an A+/S-class player for the most part of the game, and Clam's late game play seriously reminded me of a D level Iccup player. I mean, having a huge advantage and then losing an entire expo to one single dropship is my trademark, it's my signature move. Clam shouldn't do that.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8171 Posts
November 28 2009 07:22 GMT
#1239
yeah these 2 games were definitely super entertaining, totally living up to the expectations I had (especially since they are both probably the most entertaining player of their race ATM, maybe hwasin slightly more entertaining than fantasy in JUST TvZ though).

I really really hope that they both advance in the OSL and face each other again there.
Free Palestine
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
November 28 2009 07:29 GMT
#1240
Fantasy players pretty weak until the end when everything was pretty much decided. On most maps, the first burst Calm did on Fantasy's nat would have finished the game right there. Of course Match Point is awful for TvZ and the little ramp its like "lol u shall not pass".

Calm lost a bunch of hydra ling and his mutas to only to delay fantasy's push a bit.

The third is harder to defend compared to other maps too. The middle is hard to control.

Calm was doing every more or less good, until he had that drop survive a long time. He got attacked south at the same time and from then on it was an uphill battle of him trying to keep 3 gases all the time.

His main and nat depleted and BAM, pure ling.
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