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On November 24 2009 20:10 Roffles wrote: Ehh, that DA was kinda meh. But I guess it kinda helped? There was no muta transition; so I'd consider it a success. Protosses getting raped in PvZ was in large part due to muta transitions wrecking their high temps; any time protoss stops that from happening they stand a good chance of winning.
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i thought bisu played really good. even remade corsairs at the right time.
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On November 24 2009 20:17 SuperArc wrote: Bisu's PvZ stopped giving me "wow" moments. Nowadays it's like watching some B-level toss win a game. ;
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Hyuk top left in red Anytime bottom left in green Fighting Spirit
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On November 24 2009 20:12 Chen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2009 20:10 SimonB wrote:On November 24 2009 20:10 Roffles wrote: Ehh, that DA was kinda meh. But I guess it kinda helped? He's no Violet. well Gorush kinda didnt use mutas. DA fails at countering anything but Mutas, maybe defilers if youre good with feedback. DA have a use in every scenario in PvZ, like maelstrom can be used to stop scourge from sniping observers when breaking lurker fields. Bisu tried to do this but did it half a second too late.
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konadora
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uh.. anytime 1 base play?
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On November 24 2009 20:17 Crunchums wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2009 20:10 Roffles wrote: Ehh, that DA was kinda meh. But I guess it kinda helped? There was no muta transition; so I'd consider it a success. Protosses getting raped in PvZ was in large part due to muta transitions wrecking their high temps; any time protoss stops that from happening they stand a good chance of winning.
I didn't think storms played a huge part in Bisu winning there... I thought it was more about gorush letting him get way ahead in econ and then just macroing up a huge ball that gorush couldn't stop. Even when gorush did get a 4th set up it was shut down pretty quickly.
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konadora
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On November 24 2009 20:21 ArvickHero wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2009 20:12 Chen wrote:On November 24 2009 20:10 SimonB wrote:On November 24 2009 20:10 Roffles wrote: Ehh, that DA was kinda meh. But I guess it kinda helped? He's no Violet. well Gorush kinda didnt use mutas. DA fails at countering anything but Mutas, maybe defilers if youre good with feedback. DA have a use in every scenario in PvZ, like maelstrom can be used to stop scourge from sniping observers when breaking lurker fields. Bisu tried to do this but did it half a second too late. you can also mind control ultras and feedback defilers
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On November 24 2009 20:22 konadora wrote: uh.. anytime 1 base play? wtf kona already 17k posts O_o
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Hyuk wtf are you doing with that drone scout lol
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konadora
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I doubt gorush even saw the DA until bisu pushed out; he saw goons. That generally means less HTs and more anti air which makes the DA redundant in skewing z's tech path toward hydras or lurkerling.
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On November 24 2009 20:23 emucxg wrote:wtf kona already 17k posts O_o
be everywhere on TL at once all day. that's konadora
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On November 24 2009 20:23 emucxg wrote:wtf kona already 17k posts O_o That's right, a post every 23 minutes on average, even when he's asleep!
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On November 24 2009 20:22 meeple wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2009 20:17 Crunchums wrote:On November 24 2009 20:10 Roffles wrote: Ehh, that DA was kinda meh. But I guess it kinda helped? There was no muta transition; so I'd consider it a success. Protosses getting raped in PvZ was in large part due to muta transitions wrecking their high temps; any time protoss stops that from happening they stand a good chance of winning. I didn't think storms played a huge part in Bisu winning there... I thought it was more about gorush letting him get way ahead in econ and then just macroing up a huge ball that gorush couldn't stop. Even when gorush did get a 4th set up it was shut down pretty quickly. well yeah; the leading cause of bisu winning that game was definitely his opponent being gorush
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anytime is going reaver i think, since there's no sair
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konadora
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anytime basically doing an all-in one-time reaver play
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On November 24 2009 20:22 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2009 20:21 ArvickHero wrote:On November 24 2009 20:12 Chen wrote:On November 24 2009 20:10 SimonB wrote:On November 24 2009 20:10 Roffles wrote: Ehh, that DA was kinda meh. But I guess it kinda helped? He's no Violet. well Gorush kinda didnt use mutas. DA fails at countering anything but Mutas, maybe defilers if youre good with feedback. DA have a use in every scenario in PvZ, like maelstrom can be used to stop scourge from sniping observers when breaking lurker fields. Bisu tried to do this but did it half a second too late. you can also mind control ultras and feedback defilers
well maelstorming ultras seems to be much better since the DA doesnt lose his shields using maelsstorm and u dont have to research mind control ^_^
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Cute zergling/zealot scuffle at top right main.
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